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Author:  Cras [ Wed Aug 27, 2008 9:02 ]
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Maybe I just do, alright?
Author:  MrChris [ Wed Aug 27, 2008 9:06 ]
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HA. pwned.
Author:  myp [ Wed Aug 27, 2008 9:11 ]
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I'm going to set you both up your own forum, so you can bicker to your hearts' contents without inflicting it on the rest of us poor souls.
Author:  MrChris [ Wed Aug 27, 2008 9:25 ]
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Or you could join in. It's fun! Plus, you'll always win when you're arguing with him. Because he's ALWAYS WRONG ABOUT EVERYTHING.
Author:  myp [ Wed Aug 27, 2008 9:36 ]
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No, YOU'RE wrong about everything. And you stink.

You're right - this is fun!
Author:  DBSnappa [ Wed Aug 27, 2008 11:00 ]
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It always amuses me that we inevitably end up with large cars for the once in a blue fucking moon that we need the space.
Author:  Cras [ Wed Aug 27, 2008 11:01 ]
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DBSnappa wrote:
It always amuses me that we inevitably end up with large cars for the once in a blue fucking moon that we need the space.


I'm not sure I'd call a 5-door Fiesta a large car :0)
Author:  MrChris [ Wed Aug 27, 2008 11:20 ]
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Next year we will be going on holiday in a Polo with two kids. I may have to buy one of those roof boxes, or a Volvo.
Author:  AceAceBaby [ Wed Aug 27, 2008 11:29 ]
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I don't think a Volvo would fit on the roof of your Polo, so I would get a roof box. :bulb:
Author:  myp [ Wed Aug 27, 2008 11:29 ]
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Yeah, you won't fit everyone in the hole in the middle.
Author:  Sir Taxalot [ Wed Aug 27, 2008 11:56 ]
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I had a Zetec-S Fiesta (05) for a while, it was a lovely little car and the 1.6 petrol was a nice engine. I really enjoyed that car and had almost paid it off when I traded it for a Focus ST which I love to bits, but is quite expensive to run. I'm not sure how much longer we'll keep it to be honest. It's probably not worth all that much as there are tons of them about and people probably don't want high tax banded and thirsty cars at the moment.

Also, we really should sell the wife's Puma (it's the racing version if anyone cares unlikely at some point as it doesn't get used much).

We hired a Leon in Spain, dunno what size engine it was (it was a diesel) and I really liked, then we hired a 206 and I fucking hated it more than any car or van I have ever driven.
Author:  MrChris [ Wed Aug 27, 2008 12:13 ]
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206s are the Chariots of Beelzebub. Fucking disgraceful, falling-apart pieces of shit. The 206 I owned has put me off ever buying a Peugot, or, indeed, any French car, ever again.
Author:  Goddess Jasmine [ Wed Aug 27, 2008 12:20 ]
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My 405 was lovely. Even Devilman drove it to Wales and back after just a couple of lessons, it almost felt like it drove it's self. Built like a tank too.
Author:  AceAceBaby [ Wed Aug 27, 2008 12:22 ]
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My aunt n uncle have a 406. They had a 405 before it so I guess they're pretty good.
Author:  Zio [ Wed Aug 27, 2008 12:32 ]
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Craster, since you seemed to totally ignore my post about the current Honda Civic entirely out of hand YOU BIG MEANIE, I should also point out that it has rear seats that fold up so that you can use the footwell for storage, and fold down completely flat to give you more easily usable boot space. The boot is massive also. Having taken a look at some of the larger Golf variants, I can safely say the Civic is better for lugging stuff about in.
Author:  Zio [ Wed Aug 27, 2008 12:33 ]
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Also: my ex-missus has a 206CC. What is up with the clutches in those things?
Author:  Cras [ Wed Aug 27, 2008 12:39 ]
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Zio wrote:
Craster, since you seemed to totally ignore my post about the current Honda Civic entirely out of hand YOU BIG MEANIE, I should also point out that it has rear seats that fold up so that you can use the footwell for storage, and fold down completely flat to give you more easily usable boot space. The boot is massive also. Having taken a look at some of the larger Golf variants, I can safely say the Civic is better for lugging stuff about in.


Ooh, no - I did see it, thanks. The Civic is something I've considered, but I don't really know anything about Honda for consumer level cars. NSX and S2000, great! I just don't really know anyone who's actually ever owned a consumer-level Honda that isn't a bike.
Author:  Zio [ Wed Aug 27, 2008 12:45 ]
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They're normally for grannies and grandads, but with the Civic they're trying to appeal to the younger market. So the guy in the showroom told me.
Author:  AceAceBaby [ Wed Aug 27, 2008 12:57 ]
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My ex boss had a type-S or whatever Civic (like a type R but less boy racer, five doors too I think) and that was nice.
Author:  myp [ Wed Aug 27, 2008 13:14 ]
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Craster wrote:
I just don't really know anyone who's actually ever owned a consumer-level Honda that isn't a bike.


You didn't notice the one outside my house, then.
Author:  markg [ Wed Aug 27, 2008 13:19 ]
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Zio wrote:
They're normally for grannies and grandads, but with the Civic they're trying to appeal to the younger market. So the guy in the showroom told me.

You know I've never quite got this idea that they are for grandads. I've heard Clarkson say it a lot but Hondas have had some of the sharpest styling for years. I think Clarkson talks a lot of shit to be honest, most of his preferences often seem to come down to his view of what cars are credible or not. And I'm fucked if I'm taking fashion tips from someone who was sporting a full on mullet perm well into the late 90s or who thinks that jacket and jeans is a good look.
Author:  Cras [ Wed Aug 27, 2008 13:25 ]
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myoptika wrote:
Craster wrote:
I just don't really know anyone who's actually ever owned a consumer-level Honda that isn't a bike.


You didn't notice the one outside my house, then.


It was dark and raining. And it wasn't a taxi.
Author:  Zio [ Wed Aug 27, 2008 13:30 ]
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AceAceBaby wrote:
My ex boss had a type-S or whatever Civic (like a type R but less boy racer, five doors too I think) and that was nice.


If it's the current shape one, that's the car I have. It's a three-door, same chassis as the Type-R, but different rear spolier, front grill, interior, suspension and (obviously) engine.

I'm seriously considering trading my car in when the insurance runs out next year for something considerably less sensible and the Type-R is way up the list, which you can take as a testament to how much I've liked the car I've got. I'd link to the Civic forum I go on, but it's full (as these things usually are) of people moaning about one thing or the other and so isn't an entirely accurate depicition of many people's experience of the car.
Author:  AceAceBaby [ Wed Aug 27, 2008 13:40 ]
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I think it was the one before. It was a 2.0 though.
Author:  Sir Taxalot [ Wed Aug 27, 2008 13:53 ]
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A friend has a Civic Sport (the previous shape, as a 1.6 petrol) and it's a good looking car. Never driven in it but been a passenger a fair few times, it feels like a really good car. His was a 3-door though - and i seem to recall getting into and out of the back was a lot more awkward than other cars.
Author:  Dudley [ Wed Aug 27, 2008 14:26 ]
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You still can't see out the back though.
Author:  AceAceBaby [ Wed Aug 27, 2008 14:30 ]
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"What is behind us, is of no concern!" :hat:
Author:  Doctor Glyndwr [ Wed Aug 27, 2008 14:32 ]
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AceAceBaby wrote:
"What is behind us, is of no concern!" :hat:
Remind me to never to park near you!
Author:  AceAceBaby [ Wed Aug 27, 2008 14:36 ]
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Author:  BikNorton [ Wed Aug 27, 2008 17:11 ]
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Yeah, the old Type S was a 2 litre 5 door. Not the same 2 litre as the Type R, though. Which I had, and which was mental and ace and for god's sake why did I swap it for the (marginally, it turned out) cheaper to run Octy vRS only to then buy a stupidly expensive to run M3 which usually sounds like it's about to start leaving the M62 little presents of oil and valves, and which honestly isn't any more fun, comfortable and only noticeably quicker (in reality it's a shitload quicker, the experience just isn't the same).

Sigh.

Never mind, I'll probably just end up caving and chopping it in for a big V8 before long anyway. Because I'm a fucking idiot.
Author:  The Rev Owen [ Wed Aug 27, 2008 17:16 ]
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My car has its MOT tomorrow. Considering that I was warned that it only scraped through the last one and haven't had anything done to it since, I'm not hopeful.

At the very least I'm expecting to be told it won't pass without new brake discs. That won't be cheap.
Author:  Doctor Glyndwr [ Wed Aug 27, 2008 17:19 ]
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The Rev Owen wrote:
At the very least I'm expecting to be told it won't pass without new brake discs. That won't be cheap.
What is it? Discs don't cost much and aren't hard to change.
Author:  The Rev Owen [ Wed Aug 27, 2008 17:22 ]
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richardgaywood wrote:
The Rev Owen wrote:
At the very least I'm expecting to be told it won't pass without new brake discs. That won't be cheap.
What is it? Discs don't cost much and aren't hard to change.


1996 Volvo S40. Might well need new pads, too, if the discs have fucked them. I think I'm looking at about seventy quid for the parts.

I wouldn't change them myself - I managed to break my indicator trying to changing a brake light bulb not so long ago - but at least my garage is happy for me to try and source parts cheaper than they can get them and then install them for me.

Probably shouldn't have booked my MOT for the day it runs out, really.
Author:  metalangel [ Wed Aug 27, 2008 17:24 ]
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Having seen Gaywood's car today I'm very impressed, and his reasoning for choosing it over a smaller, more exciting car like a V40 or Octavia Estate or *dribbles* Honda Aerodeck are sound.
Author:  Goddess Jasmine [ Wed Aug 27, 2008 17:26 ]
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There's going to be twins?? :o
Author:  AceAceBaby [ Wed Aug 27, 2008 17:42 ]
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Author:  Dudley [ Wed Aug 27, 2008 17:45 ]
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Crikey what happened there?
Author:  Goddess Jasmine [ Wed Aug 27, 2008 17:47 ]
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Were you in it at the time? What happenend? I'm going to assume you're ok?
Author:  metalangel [ Wed Aug 27, 2008 17:48 ]
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AceAceBaby wrote:
:(


Seconded. Poor MR2. I hope you are okay, though!
Author:  AceAceBaby [ Wed Aug 27, 2008 17:50 ]
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I don't know what happened, I wasn't in it. The last car I actually liked (my super cool mini van) was written off by someone ramming it when parked at work too. Nobody ever smashed up my crappy punto!

There is a daycare centre/creche over the road, but I'm saying nowt.

It's only stuff, and nobody was hurt. It's a bit upsetting, all the same.
Author:  Goddess Jasmine [ Wed Aug 27, 2008 17:50 ]
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Glad you're ok. But 'Bugger!' just the same. :(
Author:  metalangel [ Wed Aug 27, 2008 17:54 ]
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This sort of UTTER CUNTERY is on the rise. My poor car has a noticeable dent in the front of the hood because some clot in a 4x4 undoubtedly twatted it with his bumper while parking for the Big Cheese last year. I'm fed up with it and am currently looking into finally getting it fixed.

Apparently a 'chip and run' is one of the accepted terms for it.
Author:  AceAceBaby [ Wed Aug 27, 2008 17:56 ]
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I've consoled myself that my income from SL since I bought the car will cover the excess. I was more upset when my mini van got written off. It was the last one ever made, allegedly and it was cute, and fab. And if I'd been doing my usual routine of sitting in it to eat my sammiches for lunch that day, I wouldn't be writing this now. Brr.

This looks like a headache more than a heartache.
Author:  BikNorton [ Wed Aug 27, 2008 17:57 ]
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AceAceBaby wrote:
:(
Fucksake.

The Rev Owen wrote:
At the very least I'm expecting to be told it won't pass without new brake discs. That won't be cheap.
I had to have new front discs and pads on the M3 the other week and it takes the big ones off the M5.

£250 all in, 2 enormous discs (they've got to be >300mm, easy - the old wonky thin ones probably weighed about 5kg), 4 pads, cleaning bits and labour, and despite being non-BMW they're grand. So a Volvo should be quite cheap, if you're happy to accept non-OE bits - the BMW discs alone were about £240 (BMW Parts couldn't decide which of 4 types I needed, making accurate comparison impossible). Oh, and you should definitely have new pads on new discs. Especially since you get the labour "for free".
Author:  Doctor Glyndwr [ Wed Aug 27, 2008 19:53 ]
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The Rev Owen wrote:
1996 Volvo S40. Might well need new pads, too, if the discs have fucked them. I think I'm looking at about seventy quid for the parts.
Sounds about right. As BikNorton said, you never put worn pads back on over new discs; they are only about £20 or so to renew so it's a false economy given they will wear out a lot sooner than the discs will.

At the end of the day brake discs are (usually) just dumb lumps of steel so are priced accordingly.
Author:  Sir Taxalot [ Wed Aug 27, 2008 20:02 ]
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In tehory changing brakes and pads is easy, I remember doing that with my dad on an old '91 Fiesta. However, he was very good with cars and had all the tools and then some (handy, as one disc really didn't want to come off).

It's not something I'd ever do myself though, as brakes are pretty important for not smashing the car and yourself to bits. But if you've got a handy mate/relative to help/do it then it saves quite a lot.

They were cheapo parts from an auto-factors and weren't as good as the ones that we had on before, but still OK.
Author:  MrChris [ Wed Aug 27, 2008 21:41 ]
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MetalAngel wrote:
This sort of UTTER CUNTERY is on the rise. My poor car has a noticeable dent in the front of the hood because some clot in a 4x4 undoubtedly twatted it with his bumper while parking for the Big Cheese last year. I'm fed up with it and am currently looking into finally getting it fixed.

Apparently a 'chip and run' is one of the accepted terms for it.

This pisses me off hugely. I've lost a wingmirror twice in the last year to drive-by non-stopping cunts.

Am I the only person who, if I accidentally damaged someone else's car, would leave a note with my details?
Author:  MrD [ Thu Aug 28, 2008 2:46 ]
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Not at all.

If I damaged somebody elses car, I would definitely leave a note with your details.
Author:  GazChap [ Thu Aug 28, 2008 9:56 ]
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Jesus, is there someone going around systematically damaging BEEXer Toyotas or something? Still haven't got mine fixed :(
Author:  AceAceBaby [ Thu Aug 28, 2008 10:06 ]
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Some firm from Wakefield is supposed to be picking it up tomorrow. I have all these things in my head about how they're going to add on recovery charges, storage, grossly inflated repairs, and then do additional damage while bodging the repair. I'm half sure they're the gorillas who broke off the (shiny, aftermarket) door handle off my mini van while assessing that. Of course it means any arguing I do has to be done bearing in mind that my car is two cities away held hostage. Hmm. I will take pics of it as they collect it I think, including the mileage and stuff. I'm almost tempted to do the repairs myself (I mean via dad + friends) but I don't know if that would be worth it until the repair estimate comes through, by which time all the other charges will have added up.

I'll also lose five years no claims, because I have eight, but Direct Line only consider five, and they deduct two off that. Still, it's just money and stuff. I'm half hoping the git who did it does it again on my Land Rover with the Massive Bull Bar.
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