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I've not seen such a fast and hard fall from grace since Richard Dawkins. What a monumental bellend.

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Wasn't sure if you were talking about Musk, or gazchap buying a Yaris...


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Wasn't sure if you were talking about Musk, or gazchap buying a Yaris...

I couldn't possibly comment.

Why not an Auris hybrid, Gaz?

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Why not an Auris hybrid, Gaz?

None within budget with the spec I was after. I did have a look around one and they're not actually that much bigger than the Yaris.


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The Yaris is bigger these days than the first models, but still would be too small for me. I suspect will be too small for you too, but it's your decision. :)

New Leaf is obviously the correct choice. I'm trying to see if I can afford one.

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New Leaf is obviously the correct choice. I'm trying to see if I can afford one.

They want far too much money per month for it (about £450 for the range topper) which considering I was paying £236 per month for the range-topper a couple of years ago is shash.

If the new one was available for £236 per month, it'd have been a no brainer.


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Thought about leasing? It seems a bit cheaper. The PCP deals on Nissan's site seem utterly bonkers.

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It is cheaper, but still not cheap enough - for the money per month (including fuel costs and insurance) I can have the Yaris, and not have to worry about range.


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It's also a Yaris though. Enjoy. :D

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Nowt wrong with Yaris's other than being a bit boring ;) I give it 12 months anyway :P


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Nowt wrong with Yaris's other than being a bit boring ;) I give it 12 months anyway :P


I expect I'll be selling my 5 series around about then, just tell me how you want to pay ;)


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Nowt wrong with Yaris's other than being a bit boring ;) I give it 12 months anyway :P

Well quite. Why not get something you like instead? Plus you're so tall, won't it be a bit cramped?

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I drove the pool one from Malvern to Shrewsbury and back and concur.

What were you doing in Shrewsbury? *eyes suspiciously*

Don't worry, I didn't make it as far as actual Shrewsbury, it was a customer visit somewhere on the outskirts.


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 Post subject: Re: Gas Guzzling Money Pits
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Nowt wrong with Yaris's other than being a bit boring ;) I give it 12 months anyway :P

Well quite. Why not get something you like instead? Plus you're so tall, won't it be a bit cramped?

I used to have a Yaris and it was one of the best cars I ever owned. No issues with fitting inside and GazChap and I are similar heights.

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That's good, at least.

I'm sure it'll be fine. It's just not very Gazchap. And since he gave his Celica to Jem I worry.

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Why not get something you like instead?

I do like it - wouldn't be buying it if I didn't :P
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Plus you're so tall, won't it be a bit cramped?

Nah. Plenty of room inside. The only issue on the test drive was that the steering wheel rubbed against my legs, but when we got back to the dealership the guy showed me how to "extend" the steering column which solved that issue completely.

And thinking about it, I don't actually need a huge car - I can count on one hand the number of times I've needed to fold the rear seats down in the GT, and most of those were trips to the recycling centre which aren't that urgent any more. Trips to IKEA might be an issue, but we don't really need anything now and if we do I can just borrow a van for the day or something.

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I'm sure it'll be fine. It's just not very Gazchap.

None of my recent cars have been very "me" really - to go LEAF to diesel to hybrid... plus I've kept all of my recent cars for at least a year (well, just under for the GT) which is also unheard of for me!

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Alloy fixed! £60.

I did not notice at the time the dust cap was missing so I'll have to buy one now.

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Nowt wrong with Yaris's other than being a bit boring ;) I give it 12 months anyway :P

Well quite. Why not get something you like instead? Plus you're so tall, won't it be a bit cramped?


But luckily the seats roll back.

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Alloy fixed! £60.

I did not notice at the time the dust cap was missing so I'll have to buy one now.

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What did you do to it?

Have you had it powder coated and etc?

I did read back a couple of pages but couldn't find what happened to it.

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That's good, at least.

I'm sure it'll be fine. It's just not very Gazchap. And since he gave his Celica to Jem I worry.

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Alloy fixed! £60.

I did not notice at the time the dust cap was missing so I'll have to buy one now.

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What did you do to it?

Have you had it powder coated and etc?

I did read back a couple of pages but couldn't find what happened to it.

He clipped it on the stack of garage receipts.

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I am excite. Money in the bank for a new car! After much deliberation over all kinds and makes I've narrowed it down. So we drove a 2010 Type R GT today and liked it, I love the way the engine starts to howl and just generally goes fucking mental but only after 6000rpm. It even had just enough practicality to work as the main car. BUT, it was all a bit rattly! Going over any bumps I could hear the plastic everywhere. I don't know if it was a bad one or I'm just too used to my old BMW which still feels solid and quiet, it's a shame because they're meant to be pretty bombproof where it really counts but I just cannot abide hearing trim pieces shaking about.

Off to look at a MK6 Golf GTI tomorrow and maybe another Civic. I think unless I hate it I'll probably end up with a Golf, though. One of those with the semi automatic gearbox should be fun enough when needed but still good trudging through traffic and hopefully feel a bit better put together. I just need to choose right because a new car is a rare thing for me, whatever I get I'll be keeping it for five or six years at least and by then cars will almost be banned in favour of self-driving electric travel-pods so I need to make it at least slightly fun.


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I am seriously thinking about leasing an electric car.

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I am seriously thinking about leasing an electric car.


Why? Do you use that much fuel a month?

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I am seriously thinking about leasing an electric car.


Why? Do you use that much fuel a month?

About £100.

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I am seriously thinking about leasing an electric car.


Why? Do you use that much fuel a month?

About £100.


How much is a lease of a milk float?

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I am seriously thinking about leasing an electric car.


Why? Do you use that much fuel a month?

About £100.


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MaliA wrote:
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I am seriously thinking about leasing an electric car.


Why? Do you use that much fuel a month?

About £100.


How much is a lease of a milk float?

There are some good deals at the moment. Found one for a Renault Zoe for £199 a month over three years for 8000 miles a year. Renault claim it does 250 miles per charge but real world tests say nearer 180. That would just get me to my parents in one go.

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But that is £99 more than you spend on fuel a month?

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But that is £99 more than you spend on fuel a month?

Cars aren't zero cost apart from fuel, dude.

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Lonewolves wrote:
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I am seriously thinking about leasing an electric car.


Why? Do you use that much fuel a month?

About £100.


How much is a lease of a milk float?

There are some good deals at the moment. Found one for a Renault Zoe for £199 a month over three years for 8000 miles a year. Renault claim it does 250 miles per charge but real world tests say nearer 180. That would just get me to my parents in one go.


What’s the initial payment, and does that include the battery?
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There's no separate battery lease if you lease the car. Initial payment is about a grand I think.

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But that is £99 more than you spend on fuel a month?

Cars aren't zero cost apart from fuel, dude.


I guess it all depends if you think you will spend up to £3600 on your current car in the next three years? And if you expect to spend less than that, is the extra cost of the new car worth it to have a new car, both in terms of experience and peace of mind.


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Now I'm working in Derby I do worry about having an old car with potential issues down the line and it affecting my ability to get to work reliably.

I'm sitting on this idea for a couple of months to see how I feel once I'm settled in more at work anyway.

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I am excite. Money in the bank for a new car! After much deliberation over all kinds and makes I've narrowed it down. So we drove a 2010 Type R GT today and liked it, I love the way the engine starts to howl and just generally goes fucking mental but only after 6000rpm. It even had just enough practicality to work as the main car. BUT, it was all a bit rattly! Going over any bumps I could hear the plastic everywhere. I don't know if it was a bad one or I'm just too used to my old BMW which still feels solid and quiet, it's a shame because they're meant to be pretty bombproof where it really counts but I just cannot abide hearing trim pieces shaking about.

Off to look at a MK6 Golf GTI tomorrow and maybe another Civic. I think unless I hate it I'll probably end up with a Golf, though. One of those with the semi automatic gearbox should be fun enough when needed but still good trudging through traffic and hopefully feel a bit better put together. I just need to choose right because a new car is a rare thing for me, whatever I get I'll be keeping it for five or six years at least and by then cars will almost be banned in favour of self-driving electric travel-pods so I need to make it at least slightly fun.

Good luck with the test drives, hope you find a decent one.

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So we looked at online reviews and asked for advice and did some research, and then chucked it all away and the missus ended up getting a little Ford StreetKa, and I will be commuting in the Kia. It's basically "My First Sportscar", and it's an older model and a bit wonky in places, but she's been hooning it around the local country lanes shouting "weeeeeeeeeeee!", so I guess it's doing it's job.


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MX5s are great, much better than a StreetKa!
If you can find a good mk2.5, that would be my recommendation. Make sure you fit in it though, they can be a tight squeeze for a burly manly man to get into, otherwise it'll be your mrs hooning around without you ;)


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I am excite. Money in the bank for a new car! After much deliberation over all kinds and makes I've narrowed it down. So we drove a 2010 Type R GT today and liked it, I love the way the engine starts to howl and just generally goes fucking mental but only after 6000rpm. It even had just enough practicality to work as the main car. BUT, it was all a bit rattly! Going over any bumps I could hear the plastic everywhere. I don't know if it was a bad one or I'm just too used to my old BMW which still feels solid and quiet, it's a shame because they're meant to be pretty bombproof where it really counts but I just cannot abide hearing trim pieces shaking about.

Off to look at a MK6 Golf GTI tomorrow and maybe another Civic. I think unless I hate it I'll probably end up with a Golf, though. One of those with the semi automatic gearbox should be fun enough when needed but still good trudging through traffic and hopefully feel a bit better put together. I just need to choose right because a new car is a rare thing for me, whatever I get I'll be keeping it for five or six years at least and by then cars will almost be banned in favour of self-driving electric travel-pods so I need to make it at least slightly fun.

Good luck with the test drives, hope you find a decent one.

Are you taking your planes with you to test room?

Planes are easy, it's all the camping gear etc. I was even looking at SUVs but I'm fucked if I'm spending the rest of the time driving some massive big thing that I don't even like just because it would be good for camping and taking things to the tip.

I think this is going to be a waiting game. The Golf I was going to look at today had gone and there's just nothing else about.


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Might just run the Octavia for a few years and see what the state of play is with EVs then. Hopefully cheaper, better range and something bigger than the Zoe. The new Leaf would be pretty much spot on, but way too expensive currently.

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Might just run the Octavia for a few years and see what the state of play is with EVs then. Hopefully cheaper, better range and something bigger than the Zoe. The new Leaf would be pretty much spot on, but way too expensive currently.


Probably the best move. If you can, maybe put the extra £100 a month in a savings account, so that if anything does go wrong on the octavia you at least have the choice of fixing it, or putting that saved cash down as the deposit on a Zoe if nothing else has turned up in the meantime.


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Just managed 58.8mpg on the way home from work in the Yaris, and filled up the tank for just under £30. Big difference compared to the 5GT (which got around 38mpg on the same run, and cost nearly £90 to fill up!)

It's a long way short of the supposed 85.6mpg that the Yaris Hybrid can get, but I expected as much - and anything over the BMW's consumption is good to me.


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Just managed 58.8mpg on the way home from work in the Yaris, and filled up the tank for just under £30. Big difference compared to the 5GT (which got around 38mpg on the same run, and cost nearly £90 to fill up!)

It's a long way short of the supposed 85.6mpg that the Yaris Hybrid can get, but I expected as much - and anything over the BMW's consumption is good to me.

Yeah I don't see the point of hybrids tbh. I get 55mpg in the Octavia.

Does that 58.8mpg include the time the electric motor runs, or just when the petrol engine is working?

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A petrol hybrid doing 60mpg is still better for the environment than a diesel doing 60mpg.

Oh yeah, of course. If that's your main reason for switching. I would like to reduce my carbon footprint for sure. It's just too expensive at the moment.

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Just managed 58.8mpg on the way home from work in the Yaris, and filled up the tank for just under £30. Big difference compared to the 5GT (which got around 38mpg on the same run, and cost nearly £90 to fill up!)

I was going to change this to a MPH thing but I'm too drunk. Pretend I did.

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Lonewolves wrote:
Dr Zoidberg wrote:
A petrol hybrid doing 60mpg is still better for the environment than a diesel doing 60mpg.

Oh yeah, of course. If that's your main reason for switching. I would like to reduce my carbon footprint for sure. It's just too expensive at the moment.

In terms of your carbon footprint there's no difference I don't think. Diesels just spew out loads of horrible crap that's bad for anyone breathing it in.


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