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PostPosted: Tue Jun 20, 2017 14:03 
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Had to stop watching after about 30 seconds when I quite clearly saw someone die 8). But if (s)he survived hanging out of the window and then smacking headfirst into the frame, then I apologise


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I dunno, I thought she pulled herself back inside the car.


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I dunno, I thought she pulled herself back inside the car.

Something pulled her back in, but that head impact was sickening


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Everyone seemed to come out ok to me. :shrug:

Serious lack of #Hellaflush caused 90% of those crashes. Silvercross suspension! :D

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I dunno, I thought she pulled herself back inside the car.

Something pulled her back in, but that head impact was sickening

Yeah, I doubt it felt very nice at all, that's the gnarliest bit of the whole thing though, it's mostly just crashes and dazed and bemused looking seventies people staggering about in their flares.


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Car not remapped this week due to failing the health check. Boo! Exhaust blowing in three places (!) and the turbo is loosing some boost (has good initial boost but trails off).

Getting the exhaust done first then taking back to ADS to diagnose the turbo problem, hopefully something straightforward like split hose.

Probably feel like a new car once the exhaust and turbo are sorted, never mind the remap.

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 Post subject: Re: Gas Guzzling Money Pits
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EXCITING ROVER UPDATE!

Four hundred and eleven fucking quid to insure! Four hundred and eleven! That's two tickets to GnR, and two nights in the Premier in in Shoreditch. To drive a 17 year old Rover 25 with 65,000 on the clock. Four hundred and eleven!

So, all in all, it costs me £151 a month to get to work (mot cost, insurance, fuel, tax), and a season ticket on train would be £100. That extra £2.55 a day is mire than worth the two hours extra a day taking the train.

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MaliA wrote:
EXCITING ROVER UPDATE!

Four hundred and eleven fucking quid to insure! Four hundred and eleven! That's two tickets to GnR, and two nights in the Premier in in Shoreditch. To drive a 17 year old Rover 25 with 65,000 on the clock. Four hundred and eleven!

So, all in all, it costs me £151 a month to get to work (mot cost, insurance, fuel, tax), and a season ticket on train would be £100. That extra £2.55 a day is mire than worth the two hours extra a day taking the train.


how is the train taking an extra 2 hours per day?


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EXCITING ROVER UPDATE!

Four hundred and eleven fucking quid to insure! Four hundred and eleven! That's two tickets to GnR, and two nights in the Premier in in Shoreditch. To drive a 17 year old Rover 25 with 65,000 on the clock. Four hundred and eleven!

So, all in all, it costs me £151 a month to get to work (mot cost, insurance, fuel, tax), and a season ticket on train would be £100. That extra £2.55 a day is mire than worth the two hours extra a day taking the train.


how is the train taking an extra 2 hours per day?


20 minute walk to station, change at Leeds, arrive then 10 minute walk from station to work.

Looking at it, i would need to leave house at 0640, to arrive at work at 0830, then leaving at 1700, id get back at1830.

So, leave an hour earlier, and get back half hour later, so 90 mins.

Driving is 50 minutes in, and an hour back.

I don't think i can do it much cheaper at the moment, I'd have to get a car doing 35+mpg and lower tax. I think insurance is about as low as it will go ( i could save £60 by having £250 excess)

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That's low mileage.


Yes, it was 56k when i got it, full book of stamps, no rattles etc, so $800 cash is a helluva deal.

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MaliA wrote:
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EXCITING ROVER UPDATE!

Four hundred and eleven fucking quid to insure! Four hundred and eleven! That's two tickets to GnR, and two nights in the Premier in in Shoreditch. To drive a 17 year old Rover 25 with 65,000 on the clock. Four hundred and eleven!

So, all in all, it costs me £151 a month to get to work (mot cost, insurance, fuel, tax), and a season ticket on train would be £100. That extra £2.55 a day is mire than worth the two hours extra a day taking the train.


how is the train taking an extra 2 hours per day?


20 minute walk to station, change at Leeds, arrive then 10 minute walk from station to work.

Looking at it, i would need to leave house at 0640, to arrive at work at 0830, then leaving at 1700, id get back at1830.

Driving is 50 minutes in, and an hour back.


I was going to suggest a fold-up bike to cut the journey down, but the change at Leeds sounds like a killer. Hard to argue with the Rover there.

I take a fold up bike for either end of the train, saving loads of walking time. But it doesn't change the train's fundamental problem of being on a relatively irregular timetable. Finish work 5 minutes late? Get home 45 minutes later than had you finished on time.


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That's low mileage.


Yes, it was 56k when i got it, full book of stamps, no rattles etc, so $800 cash is a helluva deal.

Ooooh, a Classic American Rover!

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MaliA wrote:
EXCITING ROVER UPDATE!

Four hundred and eleven fucking quid to insure! Four hundred and eleven! That's two tickets to GnR, and two nights in the Premier in in Shoreditch. To drive a 17 year old Rover 25 with 65,000 on the clock. Four hundred and eleven!

So, all in all, it costs me £151 a month to get to work (mot cost, insurance, fuel, tax), and a season ticket on train would be £100. That extra £2.55 a day is mire than worth the two hours extra a day taking the train.

Add Mrs A (which I'm sure you have), and add a friend (you can use me if you like). My insurance went down when I added Craster as a named driver (not that he can drive).

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Add Mrs A (which I'm sure you have), and add a friend (you can use me if you like). My insurance went down when I added Craster as a named driver (not that he can drive).


That's not fair. He can drive!



It's just that he's not allowed to drive.


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That's low mileage.


Yes, it was 56k when i got it, full book of stamps, no rattles etc, so $800 cash is a helluva deal.

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That's low mileage.


Yes, it was 56k when i got it, full book of stamps, no rattles etc, so $800 cash is a helluva deal.

Puma was 54k, stamps, £500 ;)

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Yeah, but I bet Mali's Rover had way more receipts in there for things that had been fixed.


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I was going to suggest a fold-up bike to cut the journey down, but the change at Leeds sounds like a killer. Hard to argue with the Rover there.

I take a fold up bike for either end of the train, saving loads of walking time. But it doesn't change the train's fundamental problem of being on a relatively irregular timetable. Finish work 5 minutes late? Get home 45 minutes later than had you finished on time.


Yeah, it's a pain. The station is on the trans penni e line, but not a stop for that train, so infrequent. I could cycle to work on my cycle to work bike but there's no showers here, and Bradford traffic is lethal

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Grim... wrote:
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EXCITING ROVER UPDATE!

Four hundred and eleven fucking quid to insure! Four hundred and eleven! That's two tickets to GnR, and two nights in the Premier in in Shoreditch. To drive a 17 year old Rover 25 with 65,000 on the clock. Four hundred and eleven!

So, all in all, it costs me £151 a month to get to work (mot cost, insurance, fuel, tax), and a season ticket on train would be £100. That extra £2.55 a day is mire than worth the two hours extra a day taking the train.

Add Mrs A (which I'm sure you have), and add a friend (you can use me if you like). My insurance went down when I added Craster as a named driver (not that he can drive).


MrsA has never sat in it. She hates it. I will add her on to insurance, though, next year.

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You can do it now, no? You can change premiums when you like.

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You can do it now, no? You can change premiums when you like.


Oh, yes! Good point. Thank you.

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Full replacement exhaust bought at the weekend (cat, centre pipe, back box and fittings for £217 pretty good value, was expecting the Cat to be more eye watering, but now thinking I could have bought half a Rover). getting fitted on Weds evening by a mechanic recommended to me by my brother in law.

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Full replacement exhaust bought at the weekend (cat, centre pipe, back box and fittings for £217 pretty good value, was expecting the Cat to be more eye watering, but now thinking I could have bought half a Rover). getting fitted on Weds evening by a mechanic recommended to me by my brother in law.

Operation 'Get the horses back in the engine' has begun!

If they're cheap, stick a map sensor on it before any re mapping, half the time they're out of whack. And a nice air filter in the box.


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Yeah, it's a pain. The station is on the trans penni e line, but not a stop for that train, so infrequent. I could cycle to work on my cycle to work bike but there's no showers here, and Bradford traffic is lethal


If you don't cycle to work on your cycle to work bike I think it's technically tax fraud.

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Yeah, it's a pain. The station is on the trans penni e line, but not a stop for that train, so infrequent. I could cycle to work on my cycle to work bike but there's no showers here, and Bradford traffic is lethal


If you don't cycle to work on your cycle to work bike I think it's technically tax fraud.


I use it regularly for part of the journey

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Yeah, it's a pain. The station is on the trans penni e line, but not a stop for that train, so infrequent. I could cycle to work on my cycle to work bike but there's no showers here, and Bradford traffic is lethal


If you don't cycle to work on your cycle to work bike I think it's technically tax fraud.


I use it regularly for part of the journey


My understanding is that the cycle to work bike needs to be used primarily for cycling to work. So it's fine to use it say once a year for 1 hour, as long as you only use it for 59 minutes of other things.

I could be wrong there, but that was my understanding

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How on earth would they check? It sounds like a term/condition just put in to justify it being a work bike.


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Throw the cat away, obv.


Considered it but then it's the MOT faff/fail.

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If they're cheap, stick a map sensor on it before any re mapping, half the time they're out of whack. And a nice air filter in the box.


Taking it back to ADS Preston (who flagged up the issues) They won't map unless it's right, which is reassuring. Got a Green Cotton filter in already.

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How on earth would they check? It sounds like a term/condition just put in to justify it being a work bike.


I expect a few employers take it seriously and will ask you about it. Most don't.


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Throw the cat away, obv.

Considered it but then it's the MOT faff/fail.

They pretty much just shrugged their shoulders when I took the Puma in.

They did, howver, insist that it had at least one silencer in it.

"I shouldn't be able to look up the exhaust and see the engine." :DD

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Ah, Eid supercar high jinx starting early with a soft top lambo wheel spinning up the road.

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Throw the cat away, obv.

Considered it but then it's the MOT faff/fail.

They pretty much just shrugged their shoulders when I took the Puma in.

They did, howver, insist that it had at least one silencer in it.

"I shouldn't be able to look up the exhaust and see the engine." :DD

:D

Well, I've bought it now. I suppose down the line I could always swap it out myself. It's going to the garage this time though as I'm sure it's all the original gubbins that will be a right PITA to remove.

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Throw the cat away, obv.

Considered it but then it's the MOT faff/fail.

They pretty much just shrugged their shoulders when I took the Puma in.

They did, howver, insist that it had at least one silencer in it.

"I shouldn't be able to look up the exhaust and see the engine." :DD

:D

Well, I've bought it now. I suppose down the line I could always swap it out myself. It's going to the garage this time though as I'm sure it's all the original gubbins that will be a right PITA to remove.

I don't reckon it makes that much difference, good systems come with sport cats which don't really offer much resistance.


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High-flow cat is what I'll get when I get an exhaust built, I keep this lump.

A colleague got me to take him out in it last week, because he's interested in upsizing from a 116i into an estate with an automatic, and he wanted to see what the ride is like in a sofa.

Instead he put a deposit down on an M140i auto at the weekend ("I feel like I need to have this in my life" is what he said while I had my foot to the floor).


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Had a letter from Skoda last night re my wife's car, they were offering to do the emissions fix.

The letter said that independent testing had shown there would be no issues on performance and went on to offer me 3 places close by our house (one of which I use for servicing) to do the fix.

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Under no circumstances get it done. There are no benefits to you and a substantial chance of worse mpg and poor running.


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Under no circumstances get it done. There are no benefits to you and a substantial chance of worse mpg and poor running.


What was the 'fix' in the end? Did they just gimp something via software or actually make any physical changes to the car?


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Software only for the 1.2 and 2.0. A silly mesh filter on the 1.6 as well.
It shoves a lot more exhaust gas back into the inlet so you are running on used air rather than fresh.


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Under no circumstances get it done. There are no benefits to you and a substantial chance of worse mpg and poor running.


The car went in for service 3 weeks ago and they were trying to push me to have it done then, so doesn't look very organised.


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Software only for the 1.2 and 2.0. A silly mesh filter on the 1.6 as well.
It shoves a lot more exhaust gas back into the inlet so you are running on used air rather than fresh.

Nearly all diesels do this - the thing that controls it is called an EGR valve (exhaust gas recirculation), and it's one of the things engine mapping changes.

Land Rover ones (and perhaps all makes of them) have a habit of gumming up and sticking open, hence I know about them :)

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Software only for the 1.2 and 2.0. A silly mesh filter on the 1.6 as well.
It shoves a lot more exhaust gas back into the inlet so you are running on used air rather than fresh.

Yes, replacing more oxygen with carbon in the combustion process will definitely not affect performance. Science!


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