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PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2017 15:15 
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I really want a Vauxhall VXR8. It's basic inside, does about 14mpg and is a bloody Vauxhall, but that V8 engine though.

They're about £15k now.


Half that price:

http://m.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C830181

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I really want a Vauxhall VXR8. It's basic inside, does about 14mpg and is a bloody Vauxhall, but that V8 engine though.
Dat Q-car ness. There was a VXR8 that lived two streets over when we lived in Putney, used to walk the dog past it sometimes. I think they're quite handsome but then I always had a soft spot for Vauxhalls, as my own car ownership history shows.

It's basically a rebadged Holden HSV GTS which is what they base the V8 Supercars race car on.

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I like old Vauxhalls like the Mk1 Astra and the Chevette, but they've been very uninspiring for a long time now. The VXR8 is very much a one-off.

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I really want a Vauxhall VXR8. It's basic inside, does about 14mpg and is a bloody Vauxhall, but that V8 engine though.

They're about £15k now.


Half that price:

http://m.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C830181

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I spent over £2k on PRETEND cars last year, ffs
I spent £4k-and-change on the balloon payment on the Skoda, and I drove less than a thousand miles in the last year, so dry your eyes, son.


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I spent over £2k on PRETEND cars last year, ffs
I spent £4k-and-change on the balloon payment on the Skoda, and I drove less than a thousand miles in the last year, so dry your eyes, son.

Am I meant to be impressed by this vulgar display of wealth?

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 Post subject: Re: Gas Guzzling Money Pits
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I like old Vauxhalls like the Mk1 Astra and the Chevette, but they've been very uninspiring for a long time now. The VXR8 is very much a one-off.

I hadn't really thought about recent cars, but you're right. I still love the styling of my old Calibra, but I'd be the first to admit it's as much about nostalgia as anything else. First car I owned (hell, only car, to date) with frameless door windows. Fuckin' boss.


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Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
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I like old Vauxhalls like the Mk1 Astra and the Chevette, but they've been very uninspiring for a long time now. The VXR8 is very much a one-off.

I hadn't really thought about recent cars, but you're right. I still love the styling of my old Calibra, but I'd be the first to admit it's as much about nostalgia as anything else. First car I owned (hell, only car, to date) with frameless door windows. Fuckin' boss.

Yeah, I have to say I do like the Calibra, even now. :)

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I spent over £2k on PRETEND cars last year, ffs
I spent £4k-and-change on the balloon payment on the Skoda, and I drove less than a thousand miles in the last year, so dry your eyes, son.

Am I meant to be impressed by this vulgar display of wealth?

Tell someone who gives a fuck, son.


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I am determined to get myself a shark-nose BMW 840Ci at some point.

- Flip up headlights
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- Pillarless doors
- Cool as fuck

What's not to like? ;)


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Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
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I spent over £2k on PRETEND cars last year, ffs
I spent £4k-and-change on the balloon payment on the Skoda, and I drove less than a thousand miles in the last year, so dry your eyes, son.


£660 Rover
£60 battery
£95 exhaust
£20 plugs and HT leads
£284 insurance
£185 tax

6840 miles commute for year at 30mpg is £1159 of fuel.

£3,123 total for the year

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I am determined to get myself a shark-nose BMW 840Ci at some point.

- Flip up headlights
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- Pillarless doors
- Cool as fuck

What's not to like? ;)


Do you mean one of these (although this is an 850), there's one for sale locally, it's been in the showroom for years.

I think the price has gone up as well, sure it was over £20K last time I walked past. Truly an appreciating modern classic!

They are very cool but fuel consumption would be horrendous and big bills await too IMO.

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Yep, that's the same sort of thing. 840 has marginally better fuel consumption and slightly less potential for financial destruction.


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I am determined to get myself a shark-nose BMW 840Ci at some point.

- Flip up headlights
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- Pillarless doors
- Cool as fuck

What's not to like? ;)

The driver.

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Be lovely to see a pic of your new car, Cavey - salve mine and Grim...'s curiosity (and that of anyone else who wants to know). And for no other reason.


Thanks JBR, ever the gent that you are. A very much needed touch of class (DBS too). :luv:

I don't have it yet mate. :)


Sorry, I did know that - I was thinking just the model photo. But actually, the real thing would be much better. I'll imagine it (in very flattering style, though possibly brain will add a unicorn and rainbow to make it full-on idealised), if it never happens!

Mine is a white Fiesta. Even though it was finally cleaned recently, you definitely don't need a photo of that.


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Mine is a white Fiesta. Even though it was finally cleaned recently, you definitely don't need a photo of that.


Nothing wrong with Fezzas, I've had two - an XR2i and a "cooking" one, a 1.4D Style :D (I killed the latter having done over 100,000 miles in it; it was the replacement to my awful Mondeo and was a cracking little car, handled brilliantly as well :) )

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840 has marginally better fuel consumption and slightly less potential for financial destruction.

Quoted for when your 840 throws a conrod / needs an oil change which inexplicably involves removing the engine, transmission, and the passenger seat.


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I am determined to get myself a shark-nose BMW 840Ci at some point.

- Flip up headlights
I'mmmma let you finish but the car MrsDoc learnt to drive in has the best flip headlights of all time

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And Gazchap - do you dare allow yourself to spread those costs out over longer, taking into account owning a car outright? Maybe it makes little difference unless you own one for, I don't know, >5 years and reduce repayments to 0 or near, but it seems an obvious point of interest. Albeit conflicting, of course, with the urge to get another car.

The "2 year term" is just so that I can more easily compare between the lease costs of the LEAF.

Although yes, the likelihood of me owning a car for longer than 6 months if I buy it outright is slim to nothing.


Ha! I hadn't even considered that without a lease (or equiv) payment, you'd own them for *less*! I was thinking - own for ages, cost comes down. All about knowing your own mentality!


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Mine is a white Fiesta. Even though it was finally cleaned recently, you definitely don't need a photo of that.


Nothing wrong with Fezzas, I've had two - an XR2i and a "cooking" one, a 1.4D Style :D (I killed the latter having done over 100,000 miles in it; it was the replacement to my awful Mondeo and was a cracking little car, handled brilliantly as well :) )

I had two shitty 1.1l Poplar Plus versions, and one as a courtesy car just over a year ago, which I loved.

As I think I've said, if the Grimlet could fit comfortably in the back of a Fiesta I'd ditch the Focus off straight away.

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My brother who has two children (who both need baby seats) bought a very practical 3 door Fiesta ST. With the money he saved by not buying a larger car he's had it remapped and a scorpion exhaust fitted.

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Mine is a white Fiesta. Even though it was finally cleaned recently, you definitely don't need a photo of that.


Nothing wrong with Fezzas, I've had two - an XR2i and a "cooking" one, a 1.4D Style :D (I killed the latter having done over 100,000 miles in it; it was the replacement to my awful Mondeo and was a cracking little car, handled brilliantly as well :) )

I had two shitty 1.1l Poplar Plus versions, and one as a courtesy car just over a year ago, which I loved.

As I think I've said, if the Grimlet could fit comfortably in the back of a Fiesta I'd ditch the Focus off straight away.


I've never met a single car-bloke who didn't like Fiestas, or any good handling small car. They handle, they're fun (nothing more amusing than getting some little 1.1 Fezza on three wheels on a roundabout, taking out some snoozing Beemer or whatever :D ), they're great in the snow, they're economical, stupidly practical and to cap it all, hold their value amazingly well.

Great little motors. The ST is amazeballs.

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I nearly leased an ST-3! Wasn't meant to be though. :(

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Type R pretty good though?

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Type R pretty good though?

It has its pros and cons. It's bigger and quicker, but more thirsty and a lot older. Also I've had to have quite a bit done to it already and it's still not entirely running how I want.

But it does celebrate its 15th birthday next month!

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Every time I see an RX-8 on the road I think "I'd better buy one of them before there's no good ones left".

So tempting isn't it? I did think about them at the time of buying the CTR.

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Drive faster, but not so fast that you die HTH HAND


This was 5 fucking pages ago now just because Cavey wanted to show his dick off.

Anyway I just wanted to thank you for your advice and counsel, you seething ball of resentment and jealousy.

I hope I die now and you feel bad. Although that would be counter to your advice so it would be difficult to assign too much blame. BUT STILL.

Back to the racing day I think the tip about listening to the instructor is the most sensible thing that I won't do. I jumped out of a plane once and went "One thousand two..fucking hell I've just jumped out of a plane, should I panic and open my reserve chute? I'm going to die aren't I? No wait it's open. Awesome"

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I am determined to get myself a shark-nose BMW 840Ci at some point.

- Flip up headlights
I'mmmma let you finish but the car MrsDoc learnt to drive in has the best flip headlights of all time

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But it does celebrate its 15th birthday next month!

The Celica is 21 in a few months ;)


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Every time I see an RX-8 on the road I think "I'd better buy one of them before there's no good ones left".

So tempting isn't it? I did think about them at the time of buying the CTR.

Less than a grand now.

I think if you could garage one for a decade you'd make a killing.

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Do you mean "garage" as in "keep one in a garage" or "never get it back from the mechanic" because in the case of the RX8 I'm genuinely not sure.


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But it does celebrate its 15th birthday next month!

The Celica is 21 in a few months ;)

Wow, I didn't realise it was that old!

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Every time I see an RX-8 on the road I think "I'd better buy one of them before there's no good ones left".

So tempting isn't it? I did think about them at the time of buying the CTR.


Can't argue the bangs-per-buck and they handle really well too (the steering is horribly over-assisted, though, and of cousre there's bugger all torque - and I mean none). However, they are prone to weird shit... not starting at all if you mess up when it "catches" upon starting, especially from hot; lots of corrosion problems (surprisingly) including to engine mounts, wheels etc., and the fuel consumption is ruinous. Absolutely ruinous, for about the same brisk-but-nothing-special performance as a Golf 2.0 TDI. Think 20mpg on a good day.

They do sound awesome at 9000RPM though.

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You're telling me the one with 246bhp is as slow as a Golf TDI?

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You're telling me the one with 246bhp is as slow as a Golf TDI?


I thought they were around 180bhp?
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Yeah apparently there are two variants. :)
The standard is listed at 7.0 seconds 0-60 (Golf GTD is 7.5 sec), but the quick one with 227PS is only 6.2 sec.
The standard car has 189PS.

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Better than the Dodge Charger or Porsche 928?

Better than the 928 because they don't even have the thin excuse of serving an aerodynamic purpose, and better than the Charger because they have decorative logos on the "closed" position.


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Better than the Dodge Charger or Porsche 928?

Better than the 928 because they don't even have the thin excuse of serving an aerodynamic purpose, and better than the Charger because they have decorative logos on the "closed" position.


Sounds like it's verging on MaliCool territory

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Better than the Dodge Charger or Porsche 928?

Better than the 928 because they don't even have the thin excuse of serving an aerodynamic purpose, and better than the Charger because they have decorative logos on the "closed" position.


Sounds like it's verging on MaliCool territory

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But it does celebrate its 15th birthday next month!

The Celica is 21 in a few months ;)

Wow, I didn't realise it was that old!

Actually 22, keep forgetting we're now in 2017.

Build date was May '95 :)


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But it does celebrate its 15th birthday next month!

The Celica is 21 in a few months ;)

Wow, I didn't realise it was that old!

Actually 22, keep forgetting we're now in 2017.

Build date was May '95 :)

Mine's my daily driver though, so I think I still win.

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But it does celebrate its 15th birthday next month!

The Celica is 21 in a few months ;)

Wow, I didn't realise it was that old!

Actually 22, keep forgetting we're now in 2017.

Build date was May '95 :)

Mine's my daily driver though, so I think I still win.

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 Post subject: Re: Gas Guzzling Money Pits
PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2017 20:45 
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Zardoz wrote:
Nice! Didn't realise you'd kept the Puma for your daily driver. :)

Neither does he at the car park most days.


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 Post subject: Re: Gas Guzzling Money Pits
PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2017 20:56 
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 Post subject: Re: Gas Guzzling Money Pits
PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2017 21:13 
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ApplePieOfDestiny wrote:
Zardoz wrote:
Nice! Didn't realise you'd kept the Puma for your daily driver. :)

Neither does he at the car park most days.

It's funny cos it's true.

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 Post subject: Re: Gas Guzzling Money Pits
PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2017 21:50 
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Bobbyaro wrote:
ApplePieOfDestiny wrote:
Zardoz wrote:
Nice! Didn't realise you'd kept the Puma for your daily driver. :)

Neither does he at the car park most days.

It's funny cos it's true.

Stupid car park man.

I didn't plan on keeping it - I hardly fucking fit in it - but I fell in love with it and it's been flawless so far.

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