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 Post subject: Re: EvE Online
PostPosted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 21:01 
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Wow, is Craster always DocG's bitch? he keeps getting beaten to the post

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It is a good graph, but its still a damn good game. My Raven and I had many many deaths to our name, we even killed a few people along the way.

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 Post subject: Re: EvE Online
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 Post subject: Re: EvE Online
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EvE remains the only MMO I have played for more than hour. Deep down, I know the others could only disappoint. She's a cold hearted bitch, but I dd love her so.

I should go back. I bet my iMac can run it pretty well.


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 Post subject: Re: EvE Online
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I daren't. I've got a fuck-tonne of skill points to assign, buckets of ISK and a warehouse full of what was once cutting-edge hardware, but it can get dusty from now until the end of time, ta.

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 Post subject: Re: EvE Online
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Someone find him the picture of the difficulty graphs.


We should be OK, the guy who's finally battered us into giving it a try is an EVE player of many years standing (on and off, sometimes he just trains skills for months), and he's only ever a text/email/Teamspeak session away (plus he's likely to be online in EVE of an evening anyway).

(Plus I work with him too, so I can launch a barrage of questions at him every day.)

I forget what my total played time was in WoW, but it was over 3000 hours.

I'm prepared to put the time in that it'll take to learn EVE :hat:


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 Post subject: Re: EvE Online
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Someone find him the picture of the difficulty graphs.


We should be OK, the guy who's finally battered us into giving it a try is an EVE player of many years standing (on and off, sometimes he just trains skills for months), and he's only ever a text/email/Teamspeak session away (plus he's likely to be online in EVE of an evening anyway).

(Plus I work with him too, so I can launch a barrage of questions at him every day.)

I forget what my total played time was in WoW, but it was over 3000 hours.

I'm prepared to put the time in that it'll take to learn EVE :hat:


I reckon you're going to get as much out of it as anyone does.

Wish I had the time, money and patience. It's lovely when it's not being a total cunt.


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 Post subject: Re: EvE Online
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I'm prepared to put the time in that it'll take to learn EVE :hat:


Eve is a lot like life. You never stop learning and a lot of the lessons are painful.

It can be great fun if you approach it in the right way. What the right way is differs for every player.

I always thought you would love it. Don't expect to see you on many forums for a while (apart from the Eve ones).

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Nemmie wrote:
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I'm prepared to put the time in that it'll take to learn EVE :hat:


Eve is a lot like life. You never stop learning and a lot of the lessons are painful.

It can be great fun if you approach it in the right way.


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 Post subject: Re: EvE Online
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Nemmie wrote:
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I'm prepared to put the time in that it'll take to learn EVE :hat:


Eve is a lot like life. You never stop learning and a lot of the lessons are painful.

It can be great fun if you approach it in the right way. What the right way is differs for every player.

I always thought you would love it. Don't expect to see you on many forums for a while (apart from the Eve ones).


I'm still not really sure what I'm expecting to get out of it, I might just end up doing 'economy stuff', certainly there were extended periods of time in WoW where I literally did nothing but professions/auction house/buying+selling in trade etc and my characters never left the capital cities.

I don't have as much time to play games as I used to (it took me over two weeks to put 12 hours into Max Payne 3) but my way of looking at it is Eve has been around for ages and it's probably going to be around for ages into the future, so there's no hurry.


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Properly true, that. The overhang is when you realise just how fucking big it is.

What, the bit where the 'time spent playing' goes backwards?

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Properly true, that. The overhang is when you realise just how fucking big it is.

What, the bit where the 'time spent playing' goes backwards?


You discover that the first time you go mining or gas harvesting.


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Properly true, that. The overhang is when you realise just how fucking big it is.

What, the bit where the 'time spent playing' goes backwards?


It'll take about an hour, in your averagly quick ship to visit 30 systems. Going gate to gate. Assuming the systems are quiet. if you're actively hunting people to explode, each system will take about 5 minutes to pass through, as you've got to see who is there, where they are and what they are flying, if theya re in a group or not, and if any of the players are likely to help each other. There's bonkers amount of systems and regions. Then, tehre's all the stuff you can do: mine, trade, fight, fight NPCs, fight, fight, run away, and loads more new stuff.

Sorting out my characters buy and sell orders would take about half an hour each time I did it, flying my main character around would be about an hour to cover 20 systems, with no fights. organsing people to bring me stuff took time as well.

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 Post subject: Re: EvE Online
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The Last Salmon Man wrote:
TIME DOES NOT RUN BACKWARDS


Depends on what your definition of time is. To understand time we have to understand the mechanism which brings about this continuous change from which our mind creates the illusion of flow of time, also Time slows in Gravity and is slowed by motion, so theoretical physics does show that it is possible for time to run backwards if the gravity or motion is a large enough number.

So perhaps in a Blackhole or wormhole time would run backwards. In Eve they have 'Gates' to jump from one region of space to another. That could be the time going back on the graph ;)

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The Last Salmon Man wrote:
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Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
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It's a metaphor.

I literally don't know what you mean.

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The Last Salmon Man wrote:
Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
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It's a metaphor.

I literally don't know what you mean.


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Woohoo the dude who did refer-a-friend with me received his PLEX for signing me up, and has sent me 300,000,000 ISK as my share.

I think that's quite a lot of money for a starter.


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Take my advice:

Take 20 million of that, and fit out as many T1 frigates with a warp scrambler and some guns. Then go to low sec and look for trouble.

That way, you'll get used to losing ships and how to fight. And you'll learn how to live in low sec.

Then, stay in lowsec. It's much more fun.

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Take my advice:

Take 20 million of that, and fit out as many T1 frigates with a warp scrambler and some guns. Then go to low sec and look for trouble.

That way, you'll get used to losing ships and how to fight. And you'll learn how to live in low sec.

Then, stay in lowsec. It's much more fun.


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 Post subject: Re: EvE Online
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I'm 50/50 on this game.

It's clearly brilliant, but it can clearly be somewhat life-consuming - and I'm not sure that after sinking sooooo many fucking hours into WoW, I want to do it again with another MMO. Not least because I just don't have the gaming time available to me that I did when I started playing WoW four years ago.

In fact, with the benefit of hindsight I should have done EVE four years ago, and then done 'MMO light' with WoW in the present as that probably fits my gaming agenda better these days.

I'm still working my way through EVE's advanced tutorials, half of me is saying 'this is the most awesome game ever' and half of me is saying 'you just ain't got the time for this sort of game any more'.

Then again, it does seem to lend itself to a long-term approach, I'm down with the whole skill queueing thing and that doesn't require more than cursory attention every 24 hours, and I have my 300million+ ISK in the bank so it's not like I need to worry about money.

I think I'll just plod forward with it and see where it takes me.


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It doesn't tend to require that long per day for certain things and one can easily mine whilst having an evening surf and so on, with the right security measures in place.

Certain corps and corp activities will demand a degree of commitment but you can always join the university or something and avoid a lot of that. I'm certain these a niche in it somewhere for you, and you can take as long or as short a time as you like finding it.


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Kids today, I had to mine for my own cruiser. Mine and shoot NPCs.

AE: 300 million is 9 fitted T1 cruisers in about 6 months from now for you. Or loot from an interceptor I killed in a Vexor. It's ten Level 3 missions worth of loot.

I'd ignore the tutorials and just dive in. Tutorials are boring. As are missions. And mining. Anyone tells you to "Stay in high sec and do missions" you tell them to get to fuck and war dec them. We did this one day, on Christmas day as well. Randomly choose a player, maybe he's talking in local too much, or he's undercutting your sell prices, and make his life hell in increasingly creative ways. Like joinging his corporation, and getting a friend of yours corporation to war dec you. Then out him as a mole. That's always pretty funny. or show up in a stealth bomber to a corp mining evening and shoot the transporter with the ore in at the end. that's also pretty funny.

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Kids today, I had to mine for my own cruiser.

Pff, lightweight. I mined for my first battleship. It took around six months.

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I never mined, I hunted ship, as it was much more fun...

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Kids today, I had to mine for my own cruiser. Mine and shoot NPCs.

AE: 300 million is 9 fitted T1 cruisers in about 6 months from now for you. Or loot from an interceptor I killed in a Vexor. It's ten Level 3 missions worth of loot.

I'd ignore the tutorials and just dive in. Tutorials are boring. As are missions. And mining. Anyone tells you to "Stay in high sec and do missions" you tell them to get to fuck and war dec them. We did this one day, on Christmas day as well. Randomly choose a player, maybe he's talking in local too much, or he's undercutting your sell prices, and make his life hell in increasingly creative ways. Like joinging his corporation, and getting a friend of yours corporation to war dec you. Then out him as a mole. That's always pretty funny. or show up in a stealth bomber to a corp mining evening and shoot the transporter with the ore in at the end. that's also pretty funny.


When I'm a billionaire I am going to pay you to play Eve and regale me with tales of your evil antics.

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Kids today, I had to mine for my own cruiser.

Pff, lightweight. I mined for my first battleship. It took around six months.


Why are you all mining? Were you playing in the days before exploration/gas clouds/PI/missions were added?


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Sounds it, I don't know the stuff you listed.

I stopped playing when I was married :)

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Kids today, I had to mine for my own cruiser.

Pff, lightweight. I mined for my first battleship. It took around six months.


Why are you all mining? Were you playing in the days before exploration/gas clouds/PI/missions were added?


I was.

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Kids today, I had to mine for my own cruiser. Mine and shoot NPCs.

AE: 300 million is 9 fitted T1 cruisers in about 6 months from now for you. Or loot from an interceptor I killed in a Vexor. It's ten Level 3 missions worth of loot.

I'd ignore the tutorials and just dive in. Tutorials are boring. As are missions. And mining. Anyone tells you to "Stay in high sec and do missions" you tell them to get to fuck and war dec them. We did this one day, on Christmas day as well. Randomly choose a player, maybe he's talking in local too much, or he's undercutting your sell prices, and make his life hell in increasingly creative ways. Like joinging his corporation, and getting a friend of yours corporation to war dec you. Then out him as a mole. That's always pretty funny. or show up in a stealth bomber to a corp mining evening and shoot the transporter with the ore in at the end. that's also pretty funny.


When I'm a billionaire I am going to pay you to play Eve and regale me with tales of your evil antics.


I forgot a couple of my favourites.

Find a transporter ship or freighter, then follow it announcing it's arrival in system, and its location. Or follow another ship from system to system, announcing their arrival in each system in the local chat channel with "ALL HAIL <player name> RIGHTFUL KING, OVERLORD AND RULER OF <ssytem name>. ALL PAY RIGHTFUL TRIBUTE OF ONE MILLION ISK TO HIM NOW OR FACE HIS RIGHTEOUS WRATH". The lrecord was 3 sytems before they told me to go away.

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Curiosity wrote:
MaliA wrote:
Kids today, I had to mine for my own cruiser. Mine and shoot NPCs.

AE: 300 million is 9 fitted T1 cruisers in about 6 months from now for you. Or loot from an interceptor I killed in a Vexor. It's ten Level 3 missions worth of loot.

I'd ignore the tutorials and just dive in. Tutorials are boring. As are missions. And mining. Anyone tells you to "Stay in high sec and do missions" you tell them to get to fuck and war dec them. We did this one day, on Christmas day as well. Randomly choose a player, maybe he's talking in local too much, or he's undercutting your sell prices, and make his life hell in increasingly creative ways. Like joinging his corporation, and getting a friend of yours corporation to war dec you. Then out him as a mole. That's always pretty funny. or show up in a stealth bomber to a corp mining evening and shoot the transporter with the ore in at the end. that's also pretty funny.


When I'm a billionaire I am going to pay you to play Eve and regale me with tales of your evil antics.


A corp member I was in overheard someone bragging about how successful his corp were at mission running and how they were raking the cash in. So he amde an alt and infiltrated that corporation. Was in it for about 5 months, telling us where they were and what theyw ere doing so we could attac them every now and again, when they were getting into pirate space. Trust was built up in this time, and on Christmas day he stole all of their money, assets and we made a lot of money. Which we spent buyig our way into an alliance, and then ending up in charge of it. With 30 corporations money swooshing about in the coffers...
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Why are you all mining? Were you playing in the days before exploration/gas clouds/PI/missions were added?


I was.
Same. Gas clouds and exploration were after my time. I don't even know what PI is, and PvE missions paid shit-all when I played. Hence: mining. And market speculation, which is how I made my 250m ISK. (I think that was my closing balance, anyway.)


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I mined a lot, but settled down into high-risk hauling, with my alt hauling and my main running blocker. I would be so tense that I couldn't sleep for hours afterward.

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I… settled down into high-risk hauling, with my alt hauling and my main running blocker.

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I used to run missions or attack the PVE ships that were in mining areas..

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he is still about :)

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2012 9:27 
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EvE is 99% dull and 1% pant shittingly, bed wettingly, hand shakingly exciting.

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 Post subject: Re: EvE Online
PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2012 9:29 
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PI is Planetary Interaction... you get a planet view which you can scan for various resources and build the facilities to refine them into increasingly valuable products. Once you've set it all up you just need to come back every now and then to restart your extractors (which can be set to run for up to two weeks) and collect whatever they've produced for you.

http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/w/index.p ... nteraction

It's kinda fun setting it all up and if you have the skills you can have a lot of planets going at once. Have two or three planets produce some refined goods and then take them to a final planet to be assmbled into the good stuff.

Of course, CCP is clever, and if you're not careful you can end up basically spending all your time doing PI to buy a Plex to spend another month doing PI, etc etc etc.

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EvE is 99% dull and 1% pant shittingly, bed wettingly, hand shakingly exciting.


Exactly. When a fight starts, it's possibly the most intense games experience ever. Likewise trying to escape from bad people.


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 Post subject: Re: EvE Online
PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2012 9:46 
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Master of dodgy spelling....

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I really loved hunting folks..

Or making an Arty Rupture and gate camping :)

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 Post subject: Re: EvE Online
PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2012 9:47 
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Hello Hello Hello

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MaliA wrote:
TERRIBLE THINGS

MORE TERRIBLE THINGS


All the things you've listed sound like they'd just upset people, I don't want to play a game to upset people.

I'm quite enjoying the tutorials so I'll play them through, for now the whole 'majesty of space' thing is keeping me occupied, as is just learning my way around the interface and all the different screens.

I can see myself ending up as some sort of industrious marketeer, I loved doing that in WoW. I don't really want to be blowing people up for shits and giggles.


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