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Author:  Mr Russell [ Tue Nov 29, 2016 14:06 ]
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I found this page helpful for if you don't know what's being talked about here.
http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/because-o ... mplication
Quote:
SeymourButz
8 months ago
Because apparently we need to clarify these things now, the joke is not the rape part.
The humor is in the fact that Dennis is completely unaware of how much of a terrible person he is and his failure to understand why Mac is uncomfortable.
Because that’s what the shows about…terrible people doing and saying terrible things…they take the worst traits of human beings and exaggerate them with humor…everyone who’s ever watched the show knows this. You’re not supposed to like them.

Author:  myp [ Tue Nov 29, 2016 14:07 ]
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Mr Russell wrote:
I found this page helpful for if you don't know what's being talked about here.
http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/because-o ... mplication
Quote:
SeymourButz
8 months ago
Because apparently we need to clarify these things now, the joke is not the rape part.
The humor is in the fact that Dennis is completely unaware of how much of a terrible person he is and his failure to understand why Mac is uncomfortable.
Because that’s what the shows about…terrible people doing and saying terrible things…they take the worst traits of human beings and exaggerate them with humor…everyone who’s ever watched the show knows this. You’re not supposed to like them.

Thanks for explaining :roll:

Author:  Bobbyaro [ Tue Nov 29, 2016 14:21 ]
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I have never seen it, but it doesn't sound very funny.

Author:  myp [ Tue Nov 29, 2016 14:24 ]
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Bobbyaro wrote:
I have never seen it, but it doesn't sound very funny.

I love Always Sunny in general but it's quite problematic and these scenes make me feel deeply uncomfortable.

Author:  MaliA [ Tue Nov 29, 2016 14:31 ]
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Lonewolves wrote:
MaliA wrote:
Except for Always Sunny in Philadelphia. Because of the implication.

Because rape jokes are funny?


Because Dennis is a terrible human being, yet he sees this behaviour as above board. Sensing Mac's discomfort, he tries to make it sound better and reassure him, but then undoes it straight back to square one in tne next breath.

Author:  Malc [ Tue Nov 29, 2016 14:31 ]
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Well, never having watched "Always sunny..." That was quite a useful link, thanks Russ!

Author:  MaliA [ Tue Nov 29, 2016 14:32 ]
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Lonewolves wrote:
Bobbyaro wrote:
I have never seen it, but it doesn't sound very funny.

I love Always Sunny in general but it's quite problematic and these scenes make me feel deeply uncomfortable.


At times it is horrendously dark.

Author:  Mr Russell [ Tue Nov 29, 2016 14:32 ]
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Malc wrote:
Well, never having watched "Always sunny..." That was quite a useful link, thanks Russ!

You're welcome.

Author:  myp [ Tue Nov 29, 2016 14:40 ]
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MaliA wrote:
Lonewolves wrote:
Bobbyaro wrote:
I have never seen it, but it doesn't sound very funny.

I love Always Sunny in general but it's quite problematic and these scenes make me feel deeply uncomfortable.


At times it is horrendously dark.

Yep, doesn't mean I have to laugh at rape jokes though, ironic or not.

Author:  MaliA [ Tue Nov 29, 2016 14:41 ]
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Lonewolves wrote:
MaliA wrote:
Lonewolves wrote:
Bobbyaro wrote:
I have never seen it, but it doesn't sound very funny.

I love Always Sunny in general but it's quite problematic and these scenes make me feel deeply uncomfortable.


At times it is horrendously dark.

Yep, doesn't mean I have to laugh at rape jokes though, ironic or not.


I don't think anyone has said what you should or should not laugh at, buddy.

Author:  Grim... [ Tue Nov 29, 2016 15:45 ]
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markg wrote:
Although with Friends I think it wasn't the laughing so much as the whooping or the "awww" noises.

You should never, ever watch Two Broke Girls.

Author:  Zardoz [ Tue Nov 29, 2016 15:47 ]
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I like Two Broke Girls.

Author:  Zardoz [ Tue Nov 29, 2016 15:47 ]
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What thread is this?

Author:  MaliA [ Tue Nov 29, 2016 15:50 ]
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Two Broke Girls , i like that, too.

Author:  Cavey [ Tue Nov 29, 2016 15:58 ]
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I *demand* this thread be renamed to A discussion of obsolete, lame American sitcoms and gender issues arising.

I thank you.

Author:  ApplePieOfDestiny [ Tue Nov 29, 2016 16:17 ]
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Cavey wrote:
I *demand* this thread be renamed to A discussion of obsolete, lame American sitcoms and gender issues arising.

I thank you.

Hearthly has already done that to the Walking Dead thread.

Author:  MrChris [ Tue Nov 29, 2016 16:57 ]
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Two Broke Girls is painfully unfunny, sorry.

I've never watched It's Always Sunny, but if it's a Mali favourite it must be terrific. Are there any young women learning to dance? Is Julia Stiles in it?

Author:  JBR [ Tue Nov 29, 2016 17:12 ]
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MrChris wrote:
Two Broke Girls is painfully unfunny, sorry.


So many times :this:. Add a soupcon of 'unwatchably', and with that, I flounce from the TV and leave you to it.

Author:  MaliA [ Tue Nov 29, 2016 17:26 ]
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MrChris wrote:
Two Broke Girls is painfully unfunny, sorry.

I've never watched It's Always Sunny, but if it's a Mali favourite it must be terrific. Are there any young women learning to dance? Is Julia Stiles in it?


It's about unremittingly awful people doing terrible things ("Hi, I'm a recovering crackhead. This is my retarded sister that I take care of. I'd like some welfare, please") to each other and Danny Devito is often naked. I have often laughed so hard I thought i would die. The D.E.N.N.I.S System episode was superb.

Author:  Doctor Glyndwr [ Tue Nov 29, 2016 17:28 ]
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It's also the longest running comedy TV show in American TV history, which is really unlikely given that it's this highly niche and very, very dark show about thoroughly unlikable people. I think it's very good indeed.

Author:  Malc [ Tue Nov 29, 2016 17:31 ]
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Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
It's also the longest running comedy TV show in American TV history, which is really unlikely given that it's this highly niche and very, very dark show about thoroughly unlikable people. I think it's very good indeed.


Really? Wow, that doesn't sound right, I would have thought the Simpsons, or SNL, or Cheers, or even Friends, or MASH or something would have been longer.

Author:  Malc [ Tue Nov 29, 2016 17:33 ]
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Quote:
Since its debut on December 17, 1989, 604 episodes of The Simpsons have been broadcast. Its 28th season began on September 25, 2016. It is the longest-running American sitcom and the longest-running American animated program, and in 2009 it surpassed Gunsmoke as the longest-running American scripted primetime television series
- Wikipedia

Author:  Malc [ Tue Nov 29, 2016 17:35 ]
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Unless I am missing a joke (never watched an episode, so quite likely if it's an in-joke)

Author:  MrChris [ Tue Nov 29, 2016 17:37 ]
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Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
It's also the longest running comedy TV show in American TV history, which is really unlikely given that it's this highly niche and very, very dark show about thoroughly unlikable people. I think it's very good indeed.

That doesn't sound likely. It's about two waitresses with big boobs.

Author:  Grim... [ Tue Nov 29, 2016 17:43 ]
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I can't stop watching it.

Author:  myp [ Tue Nov 29, 2016 17:44 ]
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Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
It's also the longest running comedy TV show in American TV history, which is really unlikely given that it's this highly niche and very, very dark show about thoroughly unlikable people. I think it's very good indeed.

Longest running comedy TV show in cable history.

Author:  Doctor Glyndwr [ Tue Nov 29, 2016 17:44 ]
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Malc wrote:
Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
It's also the longest running comedy TV show in American TV history, which is really unlikely given that it's this highly niche and very, very dark show about thoroughly unlikable people. I think it's very good indeed.


Really? Wow, that doesn't sound right, I would have thought the Simpsons, or SNL, or Cheers, or even Friends, or MASH or something would have been longer.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-f ... ing-879880 (I should have written live-action)

Author:  Cras [ Tue Nov 29, 2016 17:50 ]
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I can't stand IAS. Awful people being awful just isn't funny. With most sitcoms you could imagine yourself sat in the pub with the cast enjoying yourself. With IAS I can only imagine enjoying myself if I was bludgeoning them to death with a pool cue.

Author:  Cavey [ Tue Nov 29, 2016 17:54 ]
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Cras wrote:
With IAS I can only imagine enjoying myself if I was bludgeoning them to death with a pool cue.


Talk about being damned by faint praise, huh. :D



But seriously, this sounds like all new attained heights of awful... real matchsticks-in-eyeballs Clockwork Orange kind of awful.

Author:  MaliA [ Tue Nov 29, 2016 17:55 ]
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No, it's hilarious.

Author:  myp [ Tue Nov 29, 2016 17:56 ]
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Cavey wrote:
Cras wrote:
With IAS I can only imagine enjoying myself if I was bludgeoning them to death with a pool cue.


Talk about being damned by faint praise, huh. :D



But seriously, this sounds like all new attained heights of awful... real matchsticks-in-eyeballs Clockwork Orange kind of awful.

It's often not easy watching, but incredibly clever, mostly funny and they still haven't run out of ideas.

And none of them are totally irredeemable.

Author:  Doctor Glyndwr [ Tue Nov 29, 2016 18:03 ]
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Lonewolves wrote:
It's often not easy watching, but incredibly clever, mostly funny and they still haven't run out of ideas.

And none of them are totally irredeemable.

Charlie Work from the 10th season was as inventive a slice of comedy as I've ever seen.

Author:  Kern [ Tue Nov 29, 2016 18:04 ]
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There are times* when I can identify with Larry David on 'Curb'. I've never identified with the cast of 'Always Sunny' but it's still brilliant.

Also, in all the interviews with Charlie I'be listened to he comes across as a really nice guy in real life.


*most of the time

Author:  Malc [ Tue Nov 29, 2016 18:04 ]
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Ignoring the fact that I got confused between 2BG and IAS, that is quite surprising, but it seems most live action comedies seem to top out 10-11 series. (That seems to be quite a barrier across all types of fictional shows actually)

Author:  Doctor Glyndwr [ Tue Nov 29, 2016 18:06 ]
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Kern wrote:
Also, in all the interviews with Charlie I'be listened to he comes across as a really nice guy in real life.

And he's married to The Waitress!

Author:  Malc [ Tue Nov 29, 2016 18:13 ]
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I would suggest that Two and half men currently has run for longer than IAS, it ran from 22/09/2003 - 19/02/15 (12 seasons/262 episodes) against 04/08/2005 - 09/03/2016 (11 seasons/124 episodes)

That article suggested it had been renewed for further seasons, which will see it break the record, but it hasn't yet.

Author:  Dr Zoidberg [ Tue Nov 29, 2016 18:19 ]
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MrChris wrote:
Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
It's also the longest running comedy TV show in American TV history, which is really unlikely given that it's this highly niche and very, very dark show about thoroughly unlikable people. I think it's very good indeed.

That doesn't sound likely. It's about two waitresses with big boobs.


Only one has big boobs, but they are *very* big.

Author:  myp [ Tue Nov 29, 2016 18:25 ]
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Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
Kern wrote:
Also, in all the interviews with Charlie I'be listened to he comes across as a really nice guy in real life.

And he's married to The Waitress!

Mac and Sweet Dee are married too.

Author:  Doctor Glyndwr [ Tue Nov 29, 2016 19:33 ]
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Speaking of Always Sunny: https://youtu.be/aCVUsvLOUCk (huge GoT spoilers)

Author:  Grim... [ Tue Nov 29, 2016 19:34 ]
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Lonewolves wrote:
Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
Kern wrote:
Also, in all the interviews with Charlie I'be listened to he comes across as a really nice guy in real life.

And he's married to The Waitress!

Mac and Sweet Dee are married too.

Also Basil Fawlty and Polly Sherman (at the time).

Author:  Sir Taxalot [ Wed Nov 30, 2016 6:26 ]
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Dr Zoidberg wrote:
MrChris wrote:
Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
It's also the longest running comedy TV show in American TV history, which is really unlikely given that it's this highly niche and very, very dark show about thoroughly unlikable people. I think it's very good indeed.

That doesn't sound likely. It's about two waitresses with big boobs.


Only one has big boobs, but they are *very* big.


Yes she is quite pleasing on the eye (and they are big).... but it can't redeem the show for me. I don't find it funny at all plus all the dialogue is really SHOUTY AND UNNECESSARILY LOUD.

I quite like(d.... I haven't bothered to watch the last season or two) Big Bang Theory, although there have been times when it seemed to go through a phase of having quite spiteful jokes, which doesn't really appeal to me.

Author:  Kern [ Thu Dec 01, 2016 10:14 ]
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Getting back to car shows, Radio 4's 'Women talking about cars' last night was a surprisingly descriptive title for a radio programme. It passed the time, mostly because of Victoria Coren Mitchell, but probably not going to be the new money-spinner for the BBC.

Author:  Mr Russell [ Thu Dec 01, 2016 10:22 ]
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Kern wrote:
Getting back to car shows, Radio 4's 'Women talking about cars' last night was a surprisingly descriptive title for a radio programme. It passed the time, mostly because of Victoria Coren Mitchell, but probably not going to be the new money-spinner for the BBC.

Is any radio 4 comedy usually a money spinner?

Author:  Kern [ Thu Dec 01, 2016 10:23 ]
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Mr Russell wrote:
Is any radio 4 comedy usually a money spinner?


When they break out to television, yes. I still prefer 'the Mitchell & Webb Sound' to the 'Mitchell & Webb Look'.

Author:  MaliA [ Thu Dec 01, 2016 10:25 ]
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Kern wrote:
Mr Russell wrote:
Is any radio 4 comedy usually a money spinner?


When they break out to television, yes. I still prefer 'the Mitchell & Webb Sound' to the 'Mitchell & Webb Look'.


Goodness Gracious Me, Little Britain are two that spring to mind.

Author:  Cavey [ Thu Dec 01, 2016 10:39 ]
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Kern wrote:
Getting back to car shows, Radio 4's 'Women talking about cars' last night was a surprisingly descriptive title for a radio programme. It passed the time, mostly because of Victoria Coren Mitchell, but probably not going to be the new money-spinner for the BBC.


They filled a half hour slot talking about what colours the cars were...?

/runs :DD

Author:  GazChap [ Thu Dec 01, 2016 10:56 ]
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Mr Russell wrote:
Kern wrote:
Getting back to car shows, Radio 4's 'Women talking about cars' last night was a surprisingly descriptive title for a radio programme. It passed the time, mostly because of Victoria Coren Mitchell, but probably not going to be the new money-spinner for the BBC.

Is any radio 4 comedy usually a money spinner?

15 Storeys High started out on radio (not sure if R4 though) and one of the main characters of that has enjoyed a ridiculously meteoric rise to stardom.

Author:  Cavey [ Sun Dec 04, 2016 16:17 ]
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Just watched ep 3, starting to get critically irritated now. The first episode's brilliance is fading fast, and the old 'fucks sake not this shite again' feeling is creeping back in.
Properly lame effort IMO. :(

Author:  Cavey [ Sun Dec 04, 2016 16:23 ]
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Sorry wrong thread

Author:  JBR [ Sun Dec 04, 2016 16:39 ]
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Ha! Should have left it as was-maybe that review will fit perfectly!

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