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PostPosted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 12:42 
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What's your skill level and how much can you spend?


Definitely beginner! Can I get anything for 70 quid?


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I've got a spare transmitter you can have for a few quid if that'll help (although most come with them nowadays).

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Might need one of those as my transmitter was actually AM and the radio reception tended to go "downhill" when I added a motor to the glider...


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They all fly and generally do so very well, however to that end the lines of the Spitfire aren't quite scale, still looks good to me though. You'll struggle to find better as a ready to fly out of the box type of thing.

It'll be my first aileron plane, mind, so I may be overreaching. Up til now I've been flying a three channel rudder/elevator Beaver. I wanted my first aileron plane to be aileron and elevator only, no rudder, to avoid complicating matters.

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 Post subject: Re: Radio controlled aeroplanes, and that.
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markg wrote:
What's your skill level and how much can you spend?


Definitely beginner! Can I get anything for 70 quid?
You might struggle to be honest. This time last year I'd maybe have come up with something but now that sort of money gets stuff that would probably only discourage you. The aforementioned Parkzone are probably your best bet but only the newer ones are Lithium although for the type of model you are after I wouldn't have that as an essential requirement, NiMH with an extra battery or two would serve just as well, this is good trainer type for under £100:

http://www.modelshopleeds.co.uk/catalog ... rrency=GBP

Get a simulator though, your chances of not smashing it to pieces first time out would go from less than a couple of percent to maybe fifty or more with some simulator practice.


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They all fly and generally do so very well, however to that end the lines of the Spitfire aren't quite scale, still looks good to me though. You'll struggle to find better as a ready to fly out of the box type of thing.

It'll be my first aileron plane, mind, so I may be overreaching. Up til now I've been flying a three channel rudder/elevator Beaver. I wanted my first aileron plane to be aileron and elevator only, no rudder, to avoid complicating matters.

I wouldn't worry about it too much really, in many respects aileron and elevator is easier, it's just the type of models that tend to be rudder and elevator only are usually the slower, more inherently stable ones.


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Slightly put off by the THIS IS NOT FOR BEGINNERS!!"11!! warnings on their website, mind. Hey ho, feet first :)

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Slightly put off by the THIS IS NOT FOR BEGINNERS!!"11!! warnings on their website, mind. Hey ho, feet first :)
If you are confident with the plane you have then it should be ok. Can you fly it around with the plane going where you want rather than just fighting to keep it in the air? If so you should be fine.


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 Post subject: Re: Radio controlled aeroplanes, and that.
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Slightly put off by the THIS IS NOT FOR BEGINNERS!!"11!! warnings on their website, mind. Hey ho, feet first :)
If you are confident with the plane you have then it should be ok. Can you fly it around with the plane going where you want rather than just fighting to keep it in the air? If so you should be fine.

Generally yes. I may pick up another high wing trainer for now, though, as I don't want to buy 130 quids' worth of warbird and stick it nose first in the ground at 50mph.

Or: fuck it. Maybe I will.

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Thanks MarkG I shall look into it. I was assuming 70 without battery and charger but the one you suggested has the lot. Although I'm not even slightly bothered about it "looking like a real airoplane" :D

Are they throw-launch then or what?


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 Post subject: Re: Radio controlled aeroplanes, and that.
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That one will take off from the ground but can just as easily be hand launched, it depends on the field though, to take off frm the ground it would need to be a cricket pitch or similar.


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 Post subject: Re: Radio controlled aeroplanes, and that.
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That one will take off from the ground but can just as easily be hand launched, it depends on the field though, to take off frm the ground it would need to be a cricket pitch or similar.

If you do that, make sure your plane doesn't get taken out by a lusty hook shot from their big number six.

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Or: fuck it. Maybe I will.

Go for it, you should be fine, just wait for the right day though, ideally a little bit of a breeze to help slow it down for landing and make the hand launch a little easier. Just remember that this is a low winger and might not do the same gentle nod after a stall as your trainer, Spitfires will often drop a wing if their airspeed gets too low. So keep in mind that the plane's speed as it appears to you might not have much relation to its airspeed. I've seen so many good models destroyed on downwind turns because even experienced pilots get caught out this way.


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Heh - they were out of stock.

I'll see what I can find on t'internet, but I'll also order the GWS AT-6 Texan I was going to get before.

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 Post subject: Re: Radio controlled aeroplanes, and that.
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Oooh - found it for £109 plus postage. "ORDER".

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Is that your petrol RC car, Grimmeh? Where do you tank around with it in London?

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Oooh - found it for £109 plus postage. "ORDER".

Nice one, try and video the crash first flight.


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 Post subject: Re: Radio controlled aeroplanes, and that.
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I didn't get the Spitfire in the end - but I've just ordered a Parkzone Super Cub from the Leeds Model Shop. Fingers crossed it'll be here for the weekend.

It'll be good to have replaced the old Beaver - one problem with GWS planes is the CoG is fucking impossible to keep constant due to the overly spacious holes for the flight pack. It looks like the Parkzone planes are a fair bit better in that respect.

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It'll be good to have replaced the old Beaver


Too easy. *walks away*

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I keep looking at these cute little Losi micro trucks:

http://www.losi.com/Products/Features.a ... d=LOSB0233


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Mr Chris wrote:
I didn't get the Spitfire in the end - but I've just ordered a Parkzone Super Cub from the Leeds Model Shop. Fingers crossed it'll be here for the weekend.

It'll be good to have replaced the old Beaver - one problem with GWS planes is the CoG is fucking impossible to keep constant due to the overly spacious holes for the flight pack. It looks like the Parkzone planes are a fair bit better in that respect.

I'm not sure Chris but down the line I think you might be able to pull all the gear from that and transfer it to the Spitfire, you can buy them as airframe only. Meant to be good flyers those, floaty though so wait for a fairly calm day.


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Oooh those little buggers look nice. Radio gear too for $89?

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Yeah, or £60 in the shops here. Get one and we'll have races and that.


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I think I will.

It would make a perfect Birthday gift.

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It would have done but you just ruined the surprise.


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 Post subject: Re: Radio controlled aeroplanes, and that.
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markg wrote:
I'm not sure Chris but down the line I think you might be able to pull all the gear from that and transfer it to the Spitfire, you can buy them as airframe only.

Yep, I belive you can. But the Spit airframe costs £75 or something, I think, and you can get the complete thing for £109! I may as well get a Ripmax balsa Spitfire for £80, if I'm going to do that.

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Meant to be good flyers those, floaty though so wait for a fairly calm day.

It can't be more floaty than the GWS Beaver! The PZ instructions for the Cub reckoned it could cope with a few mph of wind but I've always only flown on calm days anyway, as there's no sense in complicating the learning process.

Will be entertaining getting my hand back in, as it's been 18 months or so since my last flight.

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I'm actually going to pop up to the hills after work to fly one of these things that I got the other week:

http://www.northcountyflyingmachines.com/M60.htm


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I keep looking at these cute little Losi micro trucks:

http://www.losi.com/Products/Features.a ... d=LOSB0233

Electric, though. Now I've had a nitros powered truck I don't ever want to go back to electric.

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With the motors and batteries you can get now I've found exactly the opposite, I don't know much about cars but for planes glow engines are fast becoming obsolete as you can achieve greater power to weight and similar run times with electric. The only IC I'd bother with would be if I wanted something much larger and then it would be petrol, at these sizes electric is still pretty expensive and once you make the jump from glow fuel to normal petrol the running costs are low.


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I was passing a model shop the other day and ended up buying one of these little trucks. They're properly brilliant for the size of them and the money. I can't believe what they've managed to squeeze in, adjustable diff and really nice suspension setup. It drives just like a proper bigger one only scaled down.


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It's actually not as bad as you might imagine with the very simple shocks. It's so small and light that they are more than up to it. It seems to cope with pretty big jumps and keeps pointing forwards anyway. Obviously it isn't as sophisticated as larger, more expensive ones but for messing around in the house it's ace.


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Ali Machinchy's new absolute masterpiece of a Spitfire built by Phil at Fighteraces. 1/4 scale and electric powered but with a sound generator and big speakers on board so that it doesn't sound like a flying petrol strimmer:

http://www.aircraftinaction.com/Alis_Spitfire_Roger.WMV

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 Post subject: Re: Radio controlled aeroplanes, and that.
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Took the Parkzone Super Cub out the last two nights. It's *brilliant*. Very easy to fly, and despite initially being a bit rusty with the "no! no! no! THAT'S left!" issue of working out which way to push the stick when the plane's head on, I was getting it in some nice circuits and doing a few touch and gos. It is approximately 5,437,689 times better than the GWS Beaver, and at least half of that's just due to the decent landing gear.

On the downside, on night one I had a few calves wander up and watch, which was disconcerting, and night two a giant bee (seriously, the size of a Mini Cooper) attacked me while I was trying to land. I DID IT THOUGH, oh yes. I am fighter pilot.

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I'll need to get Mrs C up there with me, which would require the kids too, and they'd try and get on the plane. I guess I could try one handed flying. As it were. But I'd have no access to the throttle, which would be a whole other double entendre.

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You need a helmet with a video camera on it, but then we'd need to see video of you stood in a field wearing a helmet with a video camera on it, and we'd be back to square one.


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Also congratulations, it's always nice when you don't bring them home in a bin bag.


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Has anyone had a go at the XBLC game? If so, is it anything like flying a real radio-controlled plane? I found it quite easy.

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Has anyone had a go at the XBLC game? If so, is it anything like flying a real radio-controlled plane? I found it quite easy.

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Go to Community Games. It's called Radio-Controlled Airplane or something equally original.

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