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PostPosted: Fri Dec 02, 2016 10:24 
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I'd have enough trouble just figuring out where the bloody course was, let alone be able to fly around it.


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Olly has asked for a remote control car for Christmas. Anyone got any recommendations for one that's going to be easy enough for a 4 year old to use, sturdy enough that it won't break the first time he smashes it into a wall, and cheap enough that I won't have to remortgage my house to buy it?

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Would it be for indoor / outdoor use, Jem?

These are pretty good for little folk:

https://www.wirelessmadness.com/carrera ... r-ca162060

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dSiPq02KV-E

No good if you want to use on grass etc though.

Edit: There's another one they do that's a bit more suitable for rougher ground, cheaper too:
http://www.toysrus.co.uk/toys/nintendo- ... 0wodjbgPPQ

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Would it be for indoor / outdoor use, Jem?

These are pretty good for little folk:

https://www.wirelessmadness.com/carrera ... r-ca162060

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dSiPq02KV-E

No good if you want to use on grass etc though.

Edit: There's another one they do that's a bit more suitable for rougher ground, cheaper too:
http://www.toysrus.co.uk/toys/nintendo- ... 0wodjbgPPQ


Brilliant, that's perfect. Cheers :kiss:

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 Post subject: Re: Radio controlled aeroplanes, and that... and now cars!
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Definitely going to try making one of these 3D printed planes:

https://3dlabprint.com/shop/zivko-edge- ... h-replica/


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My 3D printed P38 is coming along well. It really is just like building a massive Airfix kit:

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Quite satisfying to have made it all from scratch, ok so a robot did most of the work. But I had to tell it what to do and swear when I told it the wrong things so it still counts.


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All the parts are now printed so I started doing a bit of work with some silver car wheel paint from a rattle can and then just a brush and some acrylics:

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Got most of the bits to fit inside, it needs a lot of gubbins to fly this one, though. Two motors, two batteries, two ESCs, possibly two receivers, three servoless retracts and nine servos. Should keep me busy for a few evenings.


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Looking good!

Why might it need two receivers?

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He's set it up using twelve channels which would mean using two Frsky Rxs linked together or at least some sort of SBUS device. There's two servos for rudder, two for elevator, two for the flaps, two ailerons, throttle and the three retracts. Although I'm not sure why he's not just used a y-lead for some of these. It should really only need six channels.


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Ah right.

Yeah, I imagine it'd be much simpler (and cheaper) to set up with Y leads, if there's enough internal space down the inside of the booms.

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I think though that you would need to reverse some of the servos, which you can do by opening them up and swapping some wires around. I dunno it's a faff either way, just depends if you prefer faffing around programming a radio or with a soldering iron.


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I think though that you would need to reverse some of the servos, which you can do by opening them up and swapping some wires around. I dunno it's a faff either way, just depends if you prefer faffing around programming a radio or with a soldering iron.

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Couldn't you turn them upside down?

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No it's a very sensible question because that's exactly what you'd normally do and I might still be able do that. But from what I've seen the way this is designed the printed bowden type pushrod runs don't really make that very easy at all. If it was balsa or foam you'd just hack bits out and make it work but this type of construction makes that sort of thing less easy.

I guess he didn't fancy making two separate files for the left and right fuselages but rather just mirrored them or maybe he only realised after he'd finished. There are one or two very minor areas where it's apparent that although he's a brilliantly talented CAD engineer he is perhaps less experienced with building RC stuff.


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Turn the entire fuselage section upside down ;)

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First flight of the year (after first crash of the year).



Not sure how I missed the post at 1:12 :D

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Yeah, feels very fast flying them FPV.

Hard to keep up with Mark at times because he fitted a lag switch to mine.

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That's the only thing that annoys me about the Phantom 4 I've got - in "Sport" mode it's capable of speeds of 44mph, but the horizon always stays level in the video view thanks to the gimbal, so it doesn't "feel" right.

Doesn't seem to be a way of turning it off either.


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Could you do it manually by unplugging the motors and mechanically fixing it somehow? Either way I'm not sure I'd want to risk stuffing a Phantom 4. These little things take some terrible abuse and normally just bust a prop if that. Just sell it and buy a mini quad, they're loads more fun.

Just been watching my video from that morning, still had my camera rolling for when Z crashed his mini quad into the ground and his subsequent analysis of what went wrong, "I went too low". Yup :DD


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Didn't help that the ground was high either.

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They're insanely tough. I've dropped mine from great heights and speeds I've stacked mine from and been able to fly again within minutes* is brilliant.

Best toy ever.

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That's the only thing that annoys me about the Phantom 4 I've got - in "Sport" mode it's capable of speeds of 44mph, but the horizon always stays level in the video view thanks to the gimbal, so it doesn't "feel" right.

Doesn't seem to be a way of turning it off either.

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Replacement canopy for Vampire ordered. I'll use the base of my current cracked one to add an FPV camera and VTX. :S :metul:

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I'm going to print out another canopy for the P38 to put a camera on and maybe FPV kit later if it's not too tricky to fly.


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Have you thought of a decent place to take off from?

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The beach. Might get away with the college though. The main wheels are really big it's just the nose wheel that's a bit tiny. I've propped it for thrust with some big 10x5s rather than top speed to begin with though so it should get off the ground fairly quick.


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Be nice FPVing through the rugby posts with the Lightning and Vampire.

In fact, it would be sick.

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You need a Zero of some description. We could go to the boating lake when they're out with their model boats and reenact Pearl Harbour.


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Yeah, the model boaters would love that. If I was going to buy another scaler it would be a Zero.

Or maybe the new Durafly 109.

Or that EDF A-10.

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I'm looking at Zeros. Again.

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Put it towards a 3D printer, it's the gift (to yourself) that keeps on giving (to you).


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I want one of these:



If there's a 300cc engine anywhere that sounds better than that I'd love to hear it. Four cylinder inline. Only five grand that engine too!

That would definitely wake them up in the houses at the edge of the field where we normally fly.


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Mini Sky hunter fixed and rudderless.

If it crashes again tomorrow I'll be fucking flummoxed.

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Woo yeah, Mini Sky Hunter success!

Crash landed my Vampire though :DD

Sounded good in the air with the new fan though.

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The Grimlet has decreed he wants a drone for his birthday.

What should I buy that's
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The GoPro requirement elevates it out of the toy category. A used phantom might fit the bill, gazchap was selling one a while ago.


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Oh. Fuck that noise, then.

Let's pretend I never said that.

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How much money do you want to spend then?


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£100, maybe? £150 at a stretch?

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I've still got my original Phantom which will fit a GoPro 3 (I think it's the 3) which I'll sell for £100+p&p? Should be fine with a fresh battery (and you'll need to get a lipo balance charger as I don't have the one that came with it any more I don't think) and it has uprated motors.


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My child is a clumsy Mofo. Is he going to crash it within seconds?

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My child is a clumsy Mofo. Is he going to crash it within seconds?

Probably.

It still worked after it crashed at ~20mph into a rock face though, so should be good ;)


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How old is he Grim...?

Definitely wouldn't let a kid loose with something like a DJI Phantom unless they're old enough that you're happy for them to use power tools and things like that.

If you're going to be with him though then you could have loads of fun with it, you'll not get anything even close to that good for that sort of money. Just make sure you RTFM first, like gazchap didn't.


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He'll be 9.

I think something a little more child-friendly (and onlooker-friendly) might be wise.

Thanks anyway though, Gaz!

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Ah yeah, thought he was a bit older than that. Not really a 9 year old's thing.


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To be honest there's any number out there now at this sort of price but they're not something I've got any personal experience of.

This one looks ok, though:

http://www.banggood.com/Cheerson-CX-35- ... s=category

It has a camera on board and even FPV built in, it also has altitude hold so although it lacks the full GPS return to home sort of functions it should be easy to fly.

Quadcopters are really simple devices mechanically and basic control boards are fairly well established and generic so they pretty much all fly ok these days.


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