MaliA wrote:
Also, buy this book, as it's a handy thing to have about.
Russell has that book
I think my Ma may have bought it for him for Christmas
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| Author: | Mimi [ Sun Feb 21, 2021 14:35 ] |
| Post subject: | Drill RMD |
Hullo, I was wondering if anyone had a drill they’d recommend, to get through masonry. We have a cheap drill, but we get through a centimetre of plaster in the new house and can get no further. We’re not hitting metal boxing or anything like that as it’s literally everywhere, so we can’t hang coat hooks, shelving, secure furniture or hang up curtain rails, and I’d really like some curtains up in the bedroom soon. |
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| Author: | myp [ Sun Feb 21, 2021 14:41 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Drill RMD |
I just got this. It’s not too expensive considering how powerful it is (fine for odd-jobs and home DIY, I wouldn’t recommend it for daily use). It uses SDS/SDS Plus bits though (they are interchangeable, just don’t get the SDS Max bits as they won’t fit). Make sure you get masonry ones. https://www.homebase.co.uk/bosch-pbh-2100-re-_p574269 I had a Black and Decker £50 job before and the chuck just kept coming loose and eventually a screw fell out from inside it, so I don’t recommend those. For some reason the walls in Nottingham houses from 1930-1960 are made of what seems like molten slag and are very tough to get through, so should fit your purpose. |
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| Author: | DavPaz [ Sun Feb 21, 2021 14:42 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Drill RMD |
Cordless? Don't look at anything under 18v |
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| Author: | DavPaz [ Sun Feb 21, 2021 14:43 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Drill RMD |
https://www.screwfix.com/p/mac-allister ... rill/317fx That's a good starting point for home use. They go UP from there |
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| Author: | Zardoz [ Sun Feb 21, 2021 14:43 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Drill RMD |
Mimi, are you using masonry bits? Is there a hammer action you could switch to on your current drill? That will make all the difference. |
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| Author: | MaliA [ Sun Feb 21, 2021 14:44 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Drill RMD |
Also, buy this book, as it's a handy thing to have about. |
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| Author: | DavPaz [ Sun Feb 21, 2021 14:44 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Drill RMD |
Zardoz wrote: Mimi, are you using masonry bits? Is there a hammer action you could switch to on your current drill? That will make all the difference. He's right you know. I remember trying to drill through ceramic tile with the wrong bit and just endlessly spinning. With the right bit, straight through |
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| Author: | myp [ Sun Feb 21, 2021 14:45 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Drill RMD |
DavPaz wrote: https://www.screwfix.com/p/mac-allister-mscd18-li-2-18v-1-5ah-li-ion-cordless-combi-drill/317fx That's a good starting point for home use. They go UP from there If their walls are like mine that won’t be powerful enough. And cordless you pay more for the same power, so depends if you need the convenience I guess. I don’t drill often enough to make it worthwhile. The Bosch I linked to above cut through my walls like butter, I was well impressed. |
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| Author: | DavPaz [ Sun Feb 21, 2021 14:47 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Drill RMD |
I have a similar Black and Decker 18v and I've not had any problems drilling into masonry. Even external walls. Obv. corded is better for heavy work. |
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| Author: | Mr Russell [ Sun Feb 21, 2021 14:52 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Drill RMD |
We do have masonry bits but even they seem to struggle with whatever is behind the plaster. It's a corded drill with a hammer action, but it was a cheap Argos one so we're hoping that whatever it is behind the plaster isn't diamond and is just because the drill we have isn't strong enough. |
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| Author: | myp [ Sun Feb 21, 2021 14:54 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Drill RMD |
DavPaz wrote: I have a similar Black and Decker 18v and I've not had any problems drilling into masonry. Even external walls. Obv. corded is better for heavy work. I agree, but R&M have specifically said their standard drill is not working, so I’ve suggested something a bit more hardcore. If they were starting with nothing, I’d have suggested something similar to you. |
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| Author: | Zardoz [ Sun Feb 21, 2021 14:58 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Drill RMD |
Is it middle of the wall your drilling, not above doorway / window that you might be hitting a lintel? I’ve struggled before fitting blinds (switched to metal bits and did it that way). |
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| Author: | Zardoz [ Sun Feb 21, 2021 14:59 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Drill RMD |
Don’t let him talk about your drill like that, DavPaz! |
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| Author: | myp [ Sun Feb 21, 2021 15:00 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Drill RMD |
Zardoz wrote: Don’t let him talk about your drill like that, DavPaz! He’s shit and so’s his drill |
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| Author: | Mimi [ Sun Feb 21, 2021 15:01 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Drill RMD |
Mr Russell wrote: we're hoping that whatever it is behind the plaster isn't diamond. I hate to disagree with my husband on this, but I’d forego putting my coat hooks up if I could have walls made of diamond. But yes, we’ve tried masonry bits on a hammer action drill, and it’s going nowhere. Both drill and the bits it came with are as cheap as it comes, though. Worked fine in the flat, but just not touching these walls beneath the plaster. |
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| Author: | Mimi [ Sun Feb 21, 2021 15:03 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Drill RMD |
Zardoz wrote: Is it middle of the wall your drilling, not above doorway / window that you might be hitting a lintel? I’ve struggled before fitting blinds (switched to metal bits and did it that way). Yes, we’ve tried three different walls in three different rooms (because of the various jobs we have to do) and it’s the same everywhere. There has been past drilling (actually right where I want to put the coat rack, ours is just a little wider) so it must be possible, just not with the drill we have. |
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| Author: | Mimi [ Sun Feb 21, 2021 15:03 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Drill RMD |
Zardoz wrote: Is it middle of the wall your drilling, not above doorway / window that you might be hitting a lintel? I’ve struggled before fitting blinds (switched to metal bits and did it that way). Yes, we’ve tried three different walls in three different rooms (because of the various jobs we have to do) and it’s the same everywhere. There has been past drilling (actually right where I want to put the coat rack, ours is just a little wider) so it must be possible, just not with the drill we have. |
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| Author: | Joans [ Sun Feb 21, 2021 16:02 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Drill RMD |
Myp is right (I know). That will go through your walls like butter (in a good way). |
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| Author: | KovacsC [ Sun Feb 21, 2021 16:10 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Drill RMD |
DavPaz wrote: https://www.screwfix.com/p/mac-allister-mscd18-li-2-18v-1-5ah-li-ion-cordless-combi-drill/317fx That's a good starting point for home use. They go UP from there Quite tempted. my cordless died a few months ago |
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| Author: | Dimrill [ Sun Feb 21, 2021 16:24 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Drill RMD |
I thought this thread was about me at first glance. |
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| Author: | Mr Dave [ Sun Feb 21, 2021 16:45 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Drill RMD |
I'm just surprised no ones recommended this yet: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Microsoft-RKH- ... 005HHTK70/ It spins quite fast. |
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| Author: | Mimi [ Sun Feb 21, 2021 19:26 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Drill RMD |
Thanks (mostly) all. We’ll get the one Myp pointed to and see how buttery these walls are. |
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| Author: | Dr Zoidberg [ Sun Feb 21, 2021 20:14 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Drill RMD |
Mimi wrote: Thanks (mostly) all. We’ll get the one Myp pointed to and see how buttery these walls are. That looks like a good choice. The quality of the drill bits will make a big difference as well, so get a decent branded set. It's sometimes easier to do a small pilot hole then enlarge it with a second bit if it's really solid. Sounds like they may be engineering bricks that you've got, which are quite a bit harder than the standard red brick used in modern houses. |
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| Author: | Mr Russell [ Sun Feb 21, 2021 20:23 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Drill RMD |
The house will never fall down, yay! We got a set of Bosch SDS Plus drill bits to go with it because we've heard of Bosch and it's the same make as the drill so makes sense? Thank you all for the help, hopefully we'll be able to drill some holes and hang some stuff soon. |
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| Author: | Dr Zoidberg [ Sun Feb 21, 2021 20:27 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Drill RMD |
And if the drill still doesn't work, just glue everything to the wall. |
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| Author: | Mimi [ Sun Feb 21, 2021 20:34 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Drill RMD |
MaliA wrote: Also, buy this book, as it's a handy thing to have about. Russell has that book I think my Ma may have bought it for him for Christmas
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| Author: | Mr Russell [ Sun Feb 21, 2021 21:19 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Drill RMD |
I do! Soon to be out with the old. |
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| Author: | Sir Taxalot [ Mon Feb 22, 2021 1:09 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Drill RMD |
If you want American style, then I guess you start with Cheef Keef. For British style, maybe Harlem Spartans |
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| Author: | DBSnappa [ Mon Feb 22, 2021 10:39 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Drill RMD |
You want a corded drill, preferably SDS. Your house may be built from engineering bricks like mine. Even my £300 18v DeWalt cordless hammer drill doesn’t like these walls. |
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| Author: | Mimi [ Mon Feb 22, 2021 10:54 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Drill RMD |
DBS has EVERYONE on mute Thanks, Snappa  . We’ve got an SDS drill coming tomorrow. Fingers crossed it works
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| Author: | myp [ Mon Feb 22, 2021 11:45 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Drill RMD |
Nah, he’s a professional, so nice to hear him chip in (and tell me I’m right) If I’d known this 13(!) years ago when I bought my first house I wouldn’t have destroyed two drills in the process. |
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| Author: | Mr Russell [ Mon Feb 22, 2021 11:56 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Drill RMD |
Reassuring, thank you. |
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| Author: | Mimi [ Mon Feb 22, 2021 12:48 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Drill RMD |
myp wrote: Nah, he’s a professional, so nice to hear him chip in (and tell me I’m right) If I’d known this 13(!) years ago when I bought my first house I wouldn’t have destroyed two drills in the process. I know! I said thank you! |
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| Author: | Zardoz [ Mon Feb 22, 2021 12:51 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Drill RMD |
Have you considered softer bricks? |
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| Author: | Zardoz [ Mon Feb 22, 2021 12:51 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Drill RMD |
Or drill more test holes till you hit the mortar x |
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| Author: | Mimi [ Mon Feb 22, 2021 12:54 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Drill RMD |
Zardoz wrote: Or drill more test holes till you hit the mortar x 
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| Author: | myp [ Mon Feb 22, 2021 12:57 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Drill RMD |
Mimi wrote: myp wrote: Nah, he’s a professional, so nice to hear him chip in (and tell me I’m right) If I’d known this 13(!) years ago when I bought my first house I wouldn’t have destroyed two drills in the process. I know! I said thank you! Yes, I appreciated it! But it’s reassuring when someone as handy as Monsieur Snappeur comes in and says much the same. |
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| Author: | Mimi [ Mon Feb 22, 2021 14:11 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Drill RMD |
Dimrill wrote: I thought this thread was about me at first glance. We definitely don’t need a new @dimrill The one we’ve got is perfect. 
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| Author: | Satsuma [ Tue Feb 23, 2021 0:01 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Drill RMD |
If you want drill recommendations, I’d suggest you start with some Skepta, Chief Keef and Pop Smoke. |
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| Author: | Sir Taxalot [ Tue Feb 23, 2021 0:32 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Drill RMD |
Satsuma wrote: If you want drill recommendations, I’d suggest you start with some Skepta, Chief Keef and Pop Smoke. 
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| Author: | Mimi [ Wed Feb 24, 2021 19:33 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Drill RMD |
We got this drill delivered and it did exactly as everyone said, so thank you all for the help and recommendations. We now have some coat racks up and will set about the next jobs over the following few days. It is surprisingly quieter than our old drill. |
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| Author: | Mr Russell [ Wed Feb 24, 2021 20:30 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Drill RMD |
Just to echo that, thank you so much for the recommendations and links. |
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| Author: | Mr Dave [ Wed Feb 24, 2021 21:32 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Drill RMD |
You're welcome. |
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| Author: | myp [ Wed Feb 24, 2021 21:52 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Drill RMD |
Giphy "you’re welcome": https://media2.giphy.com/media/3oEduNDk23BaPKTVT2/giphy-loop.mp4 |
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| Author: | Zardoz [ Wed Feb 24, 2021 22:40 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Drill RMD |
We all did our bit. |
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| Author: | Mr Russell [ Wed Feb 24, 2021 22:59 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Drill RMD |
Zardoz wrote: We all did our bit. Thanks chuck |
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