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Author:  CraigGrannell [ Tue Apr 01, 2008 17:45 ]
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Well, second-chance man just got back to me.

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If I was to buy with PayPal tonight, could I meet you at Fleet Services Teither Thursday or Friday evening to pick up?


Even this quite reasonable suggestion has now made me paranoid about someone suddenly wrenching money back. ARGH! I HATE EBAY!

Author:  Grim... [ Tue Apr 01, 2008 17:52 ]
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Take a mate, then.

Author:  Mimi [ Tue Apr 01, 2008 17:55 ]
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I don't think he means physically wrenching the money back, as he said he'd paypal tonight - but obviously if he hands the item over he won't have the proof of delivery that he'd have if the item were posted via a recorded method.

Author:  CUS [ Tue Apr 01, 2008 18:00 ]
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Then the mate that goes with him should be carrying a camera.

Author:  CraigGrannell [ Tue Apr 01, 2008 18:12 ]
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Mimi wrote:
I don't think he means physically wrenching the money back, as he said he'd paypal tonight - but obviously if he hands the item over he won't have the proof of delivery that he'd have if the item were posted via a recorded method.

Quite. Person pays. Person takes cash back via PayPal dispute.

Still, this bloke has good feedback and so it seems unlikely. And, yeah, I won't be going on my own anyway. I'm not mental—just paranoid.

Author:  Dudley [ Tue Apr 01, 2008 18:24 ]
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I like the camera idea, it's a shame you can't post pictures as feedback, you both doing thumbs up at the camera would be ace.

Author:  CraigGrannell [ Tue Apr 01, 2008 18:27 ]
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Regarding the "I never received the item" get-out, that would be interesting anyway, because 'collection' was one of the shipping options I offered. Had I not done that, it could be more problematic, perhaps. Still, the bloke's feedback, which I've now trawled, includes two other PCs and a bunch of drumming stuff. Maybe he wants a G5 because most music stuff works badly on Intel Macs.

I will bear in mind the thumbs-up for future eBaying.

Author:  Pod [ Tue Apr 01, 2008 18:29 ]
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CraigGrannell wrote:
Mimi wrote:
I don't think he means physically wrenching the money back, as he said he'd paypal tonight - but obviously if he hands the item over he won't have the proof of delivery that he'd have if the item were posted via a recorded method.

Quite. Person pays. Person takes cash back via PayPal dispute.

Still, this bloke has good feedback and so it seems unlikely. And, yeah, I won't be going on my own anyway. I'm not mental—just paranoid.



Say all of this to him. He might understand be completely reasonable and comply with you.

Author:  CraigGrannell [ Tue Apr 01, 2008 18:32 ]
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Comply in what way?

Author:  Dudley [ Tue Apr 01, 2008 18:41 ]
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Have a photo taken with thumbs aloft.

Author:  CraigGrannell [ Tue Apr 01, 2008 18:48 ]
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Oh, right.

Author:  Cras [ Tue Apr 01, 2008 18:54 ]
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And get him to sign for receipt.

Author:  Pod [ Tue Apr 01, 2008 19:08 ]
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CraigGrannell wrote:
Comply in what way?


a) Not pay you by paypal
or b) Wait until it's "cleared" etc. Basically, if he understand that you're worried he might be willing to jump through a hoop or two.

Author:  CraigGrannell [ Tue Apr 01, 2008 19:31 ]
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Craster wrote:
And get him to sign for receipt.

Good thinking.

Pod wrote:
a) Not pay you by paypal

I was thinking of suggesting cash, but that then potentially makes me look dodgy and removes his protection. Still, he's not replied to my message yet anyway.

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or b) Wait until it's "cleared"

I'm not even sure there is such a thing with PayPal. The only thing I can think of is spiriting the money away to a bank account, but then PayPal being PayPal would probably grab money from there for a refund anyway.

Author:  Ian Osborne [ Thu Apr 03, 2008 12:41 ]
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So what's the score? Did you sell in the end?

Author:  CraigGrannell [ Thu Apr 03, 2008 13:20 ]
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Ian Osborne wrote:
So what's the score? Did you sell in the end?

He's picking it up tomorrow, in broad daylight, at Fleet train station. His PayPal address is verified, and so I'm just going to ask to see some ID before handing the box over, and explain my paranoia away by what happened. I think this guy's on the level. However, if I don't post here after tomorrow evening, it's because I'm floating face-down in Fleet Pond.

Author:  Grim... [ Thu Apr 03, 2008 13:26 ]
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Anyone up for a spot of mugging tomorrow?

Author:  MaliA [ Thu Apr 03, 2008 13:29 ]
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Grim... wrote:
Anyone up for a spot of mugging tomorrow?


Not for a Mac, no.

Author:  CraigGrannell [ Thu Apr 03, 2008 13:31 ]
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Grim... wrote:
Anyone up for a spot of mugging tomorrow?

That said, I'd love to see someone trying to run away carrying a 26kg box.

Author:  Grim... [ Thu Apr 03, 2008 13:32 ]
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I somehow doubt you would.

Author:  Ian Osborne [ Thu Apr 03, 2008 14:00 ]
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CraigGrannell wrote:
Ian Osborne wrote:
So what's the score? Did you sell in the end?

He's picking it up tomorrow, in broad daylight, at Fleet train station. His PayPal address is verified, and so I'm just going to ask to see some ID before handing the box over, and explain my paranoia away by what happened. I think this guy's on the level. However, if I don't post here after tomorrow evening, it's because I'm floating face-down in Fleet Pond.

Good thinking, but let him know by email that you want ID, so he has it with him on the day.

Author:  CraigGrannell [ Fri Apr 04, 2008 17:03 ]
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So I'm still alive! The bloke (who showed me his driving licence, was in his late 40s, and asked me if I wanted him to sign something to say he'd collected the Mac) was extremely friendly, understood entirely about the problems I'd had, and was apparently after a G5 to... upgrade his G4. He's a bit suspicious of Intel Macs and wanted something for his photography work. Here's hoping the machine carries on being as reliable as it was for me, and that he doesn't turn out to be the greatest scammer ever, because this is currently looking like a pretty good transaction.

All's well, etc.

Author:  tigertiger [ Fri Apr 04, 2008 18:23 ]
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Craig, do you have any Marshal Law trades amongst your collection?

Author:  Scarysheep3000 [ Fri Apr 04, 2008 19:23 ]
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tigertiger wrote:
Craig, do you have any Marshal Law trades amongst your collection?


Top Shelf are releasing a Marshal Law omnibus next year. Will be nice to have everything together.

http://www.topshelfcomix.com/catalog.php?type=2

Author:  CraigGrannell [ Sat Apr 05, 2008 9:59 ]
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Scarysheep3000 wrote:
Top Shelf are releasing a Marshal Law omnibus next year. Will be nice to have everything together.

Mm. I'd have a tendency to wait for that, even if it'll be pricey and despite the fact Marshal Law is utter shite after Kingdom of the Blind.

I've definitely got some Marshal Law stuff to get rid of, but I can't remember what. It's mostly 2000 AD-related stuff, though, along with the odd DC/Marvel trade (Death's Head v1, some Alan Moore DC book, etc.).

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