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Author:  Dr Zoidberg [ Sun Oct 25, 2020 18:12 ]
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Mimi wrote:
DavPaz wrote:
Bluetooth will travel through walls. My neighbour has an open Bluetooth speaker that I can "see" all over our house

Do you play music on it?

Porn

Author:  DavPaz [ Sun Oct 25, 2020 19:42 ]
Post subject:  Re: Coronavirus

Nothing yet. Temptation taps my shoulder every day.

Re: Masks. They've been mandatory at our school since we returned and it's 99% observed. Even the high school kids picking up their younger siblings are generally masked at the gates

Author:  Mimi [ Sun Oct 25, 2020 19:55 ]
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I think that’s where they lost some ground, here. I think if they’d made masks mandatory from the start then you’d have to be very bold to be the one person turning up bare-faced.

... That said, the one way system has been in place from day 1 and the same people still head against that every single time, so who knows.

Author:  GazChap [ Sun Oct 25, 2020 22:29 ]
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I read that a lot of hospitals are asking their staff NOT to use the NHS tracker app, on the basis that they will be coming into contact with so many potential contacts that it’d just trigger waves of “false positive” messages.

Can’t help but think not using it for that reason kinda defeats the point, though.

Author:  “Fun”Sally [ Sun Oct 25, 2020 22:37 ]
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We’ve just been told if we do have it to turn tracking off while we’re on campus.
And we should be protected by wearing PPE if we do come in contact with any positives.

Author:  Goddess Jasmine [ Sun Oct 25, 2020 22:57 ]
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“Fun”Sally wrote:
We’ve just been told if we do have it to turn tracking off while we’re on campus.
And we should be protected by wearing PPE if we do come in contact with any positives.

:this:

We've been asked to turn our phones off or put them into airplane mode when we leave them in our cars too.

Author:  Mimi [ Fri Oct 30, 2020 12:14 ]
Post subject:  Re: Coronavirus

On Tuesday one of the teachers at D’s school tested positive, the next day, two more. The next day two more. Now over half the school is out due to it. They aren’t shutting the school, though. As it’s half term and so many staff have it I thought it would make more sense to extend the break by another week.

Author:  Goddess Jasmine [ Fri Oct 30, 2020 12:18 ]
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Mimi wrote:
On Tuesday one of the teachers at D’s school tested positive, the next day, two more. The next day two more. Now over half the school is out due to it. They aren’t shutting the school, though. As it’s half term and so many staff have it I thought it would make more sense to extend the break by another week.

I'm not sure that people are using a lot of sense unfortunately.

Looks like our department is now shut down for a couple of weeks, we'll see how that goes.

Author:  myp [ Fri Oct 30, 2020 12:23 ]
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First day of Tier 3. Obviously this is having a massive impact upon my life

Author:  Mimi [ Fri Oct 30, 2020 13:23 ]
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I guess you’re not going trick or treating, then?

Author:  myp [ Fri Oct 30, 2020 13:46 ]
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Mimi wrote:
I guess you’re not going trick or treating, then?

I’ll have to have this year off

Author:  Kern [ Sat Oct 31, 2020 8:45 ]
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Oxford Mail: Man broke coronavirus lockdown rules to watch couple dogging near Bicester

Still not as bad as what Dominic Cummings did.

Author:  Mimi [ Sat Oct 31, 2020 9:53 ]
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Goddess Jasmine wrote:
Mimi wrote:
On Tuesday one of the teachers at D’s school tested positive, the next day, two more. The next day two more. Now over half the school is out due to it. They aren’t shutting the school, though. As it’s half term and so many staff have it I thought it would make more sense to extend the break by another week.

I'm not sure that people are using a lot of sense unfortunately.

Looks like our department is now shut down for a couple of weeks, we'll see how that goes.

Are there cases within your department, GJ?

Here’s something I was thinking about the school. At lunch, the kids eat at their desks with dinner ladies presiding. The teachers go to eat in the staff room. The spread among the staff in different year groups, etc, at the very least strongly suggests this is where the transmission is happening.

So, if you are found to be positive, all those that you’ve been in close proximity to are supposed to self isolate, yes? I have that right, don’t I? If so... that should surely be all of the teachers. But that’s not what is happening?

Author:  Warhead [ Sat Oct 31, 2020 10:10 ]
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Kern wrote:
Oxford Mail: Man broke coronavirus lockdown rules to watch couple dogging near Bicester

Still not as bad as what Dominic Cummings did.


What an idiot. He could have probably seen it all on-line.

But that’s a really useful article, since it gives details of other popular places to catch people at it.

Author:  Goddess Jasmine [ Sat Oct 31, 2020 10:40 ]
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Mimi wrote:
Are there cases within your department, GJ?

Thankfully not, but we can't go into the rest of the establishment now because of cases.

Author:  Jem [ Sat Oct 31, 2020 11:03 ]
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Mimi wrote:
Here’s something I was thinking about the school. At lunch, the kids eat at their desks with dinner ladies presiding. The teachers go to eat in the staff room. The spread among the staff in different year groups, etc, at the very least strongly suggests this is where the transmission is happening.

It’s my understanding that teachers aren’t allowed to meet in the staff room- they are supposed to stay in their bubbles. Don’t know if that’s universal (or being followed) though.

Author:  Mimi [ Sat Oct 31, 2020 11:41 ]
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Jem wrote:
Mimi wrote:
Here’s something I was thinking about the school. At lunch, the kids eat at their desks with dinner ladies presiding. The teachers go to eat in the staff room. The spread among the staff in different year groups, etc, at the very least strongly suggests this is where the transmission is happening.

It’s my understanding that teachers aren’t allowed to meet in the staff room- they are supposed to stay in their bubbles. Don’t know if that’s universal (or being followed) though.

Hmm, doesn’t seem to be. My brother is a teacher and though he’s refused to hold departmental meetings in person and eats in his office, he has to attend wider school meetings in person and says that most teachers don’t have the privilege of an office. Kids are eating in the canteen still (as they are in a lot of schools here, though not in D’s) and so staff room is where many are taking their meals as the teachers are moving between classes for lessons so don’t have a permanent base or bubble (he works in a secondary school, so not sure if that’s different).

Author:  Dr Zoidberg [ Sat Oct 31, 2020 14:01 ]
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4PM press conference by Boris. Lockdown incoming?

Author:  JBR [ Sat Oct 31, 2020 14:32 ]
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Dr Zoidberg wrote:
4PM press conference by Boris. Lockdown incoming?


Or, to pretend to be in charge still, debunk those stories, but announce there will be one in a week or so, just to make sure our official response stays two weeks behind France.

Author:  MaliA [ Sun Nov 01, 2020 0:15 ]
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They are just incompetent, vindictive, fucking stupid, cunts, aren't they?

Author:  DavPaz [ Sun Nov 01, 2020 1:17 ]
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MaliA wrote:
They are just incompetent, vindictive, fucking stupid, cunts, aren't they?

Welcome to the party, pal

Author:  Kern [ Sun Nov 01, 2020 9:26 ]
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I was hoping that as Johnson's announcement was scheduled for 4 that I would be spared having to endure it thanks to the rugby on the other side. Alas, the three hour delay meant it was on and I caught it. Dear god, despite a night's sleep and the fact that England won the 6 Nations, I'm still spitting buckets about it. Not only is it far too late, but his delivery was appalling, he had an infuriating smirk on his face despite 60,000 dead, and he ended with more of that tedious and tooth-grindingly awful everything will be fine/world-beating/over-by-ChristmasSpring pathetic Poundland Churchillian cos-play shit.

Still, at least he's not going to exacerbate the economic ruin by also taking the UK out of single market and customs union at the end of the year. That would be irrespons - oh. Oh dear.

Author:  Dr Zoidberg [ Sun Nov 01, 2020 10:03 ]
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I agree it was a really poor delivery.

There was no pause between the reasoning and the measures - he just started talking about them as though we already knew what they were.
That said, because he'd told the BBC what they were anyway, some of us did...

Author:  KovacsC [ Sun Nov 01, 2020 10:55 ]
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Another month.
It won’t really change what I will be doing. Hopefully.

Author:  DavPaz [ Sun Nov 01, 2020 11:01 ]
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Hey Boris! You must've fucked it up if you made Kern swear:

Author:  Dr Lave [ Sun Nov 01, 2020 15:47 ]
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Lockdown v2 - electric boogaloo.

Hope everyone is doing well.

Author:  Mimi [ Mon Nov 02, 2020 11:50 ]
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Mimi wrote:
On Tuesday one of the teachers at D’s school tested positive, the next day, two more. The next day two more. Now over half the school is out due to it. They aren’t shutting the school, though. As it’s half term and so many staff have it I thought it would make more sense to extend the break by another week.


We’re in a bit of a pickle with this now. More than half the classes in D’s school now have a teacher who is currently isolating as they’ve tested positive, which isn’t great. However, we don’t *really* know the extent of it.

At least one teacher per class, we understand, but we asked just for a total number of staff with current covid cases, just so we could make an informed decision about whether Darwin should go in today, as it seems to have spread really rapidly through the teaching staff, but the school have phoned today to say that they won’t say the extent of the infections among staff. As there are usually 3-4 teachers and support staff per class (as a lot are part times and job share) it would seem odd if it spread between staff in different classes but not teachers and support staff that work together in the classes, not to mention other school staff.

I’m not sure if they are doing this in the grounds of GDPR, as other schools have been pretty transparent about the number of staff affected (though I’ve seen none to the extent of infections that are seemingly within this school), and other workplaces (factories, etc) publish the number of cases, so it just feels like they are not giving parents the full picture, and without the information I don’t know how we can make an informed decision :(

So today I am reluctantly homeschooling again. Not reluctantly because I mind doing it, but reluctant because of the circumstances I’m which I’ve taken him out for the time being, and because I feel so kept in the dark, and (most importantly) because he’ll be missing his friends.

I don’t think we can make the ‘right’ decision here. And I need a big hug and a dose of confidence :(

Author:  Zardoz [ Mon Nov 02, 2020 12:22 ]
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I think you've done the right thing. Sounds like his school has lots of cases, I'd do the same.

Author:  Mimi [ Mon Nov 02, 2020 12:27 ]
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Genuinely, that makes me feel better. I doubt myself a LOT and though I know Russell has my back and we’ve done this in full agreement, I doubt my rationale in the wider sense a lot of the time.

Author:  Jem [ Mon Nov 02, 2020 12:31 ]
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To be honest, I've hated homeschooling and I think I'd be making the same decision under those circumstances!

Author:  myp [ Mon Nov 02, 2020 12:51 ]
Post subject:  Re: Coronavirus

I would probably do the same with little Jimmy if he existed and I’m someone who thinks schools need to stay open as long as possible due to the potential mental health issues and isolation/loneliness of long-term homeschooling. You need to feel like the school are being honest with you and that they’re doing everything they can to contain the outbreak.

Author:  Grim... [ Mon Nov 02, 2020 12:58 ]
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Do you not get fined? It's £100 a week for us to keep the Grimlet at home, even though we're in the "XTREME" shielding category.

Author:  Trooper [ Mon Nov 02, 2020 13:00 ]
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Grim... wrote:
Do you not get fined? It's £100 a week for us to keep the Grimlet at home, even though we're in the "XTREME" shielding category.


I hope you have him labouring on the job site to pay off the fine.

Author:  myp [ Mon Nov 02, 2020 13:19 ]
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Grim... wrote:
Do you not get fined? It's £100 a week for us to keep the Grimlet at home, even though we're in the "XTREME" shielding category.

Shielders should be back to work now because the economy!

Author:  Cras [ Mon Nov 02, 2020 13:28 ]
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Most never stopped being at work

Author:  Mr Russell [ Mon Nov 02, 2020 13:33 ]
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The school have issued a statement saying anyone worried can take up to 14 days without reprisal

Author:  myp [ Mon Nov 02, 2020 13:34 ]
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Cras wrote:
Most never stopped being at work

Those who couldn’t work from home did. But then they were told to go back.

And now there isn’t a shielding scheme as far as I’m aware. It’s a complete mess.

Author:  Mimi [ Mon Nov 02, 2020 13:51 ]
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Grim... wrote:
Do you not get fined? It's £100 a week for us to keep the Grimlet at home, even though we're in the "XTREME" shielding category.

No, we don’t get fined. The school letter states that there won’t be any penalty for parents that choose to keep their children home during times when there is an outbreak at the school.

Edit: sorry, I didn’t see Russell’s response before replying. Have you spoken to the school about your circumstances, Grim...? Each school seems to be doing their own thing, and I worry that some have lost sight of the fact that there are real families with very specific circumstances alongside attendance numbers to consider.

Author:  Jem [ Mon Nov 02, 2020 13:52 ]
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Grim... wrote:
Do you not get fined? It's £100 a week for us to keep the Grimlet at home, even though we're in the "XTREME" shielding category.

Fuuuuuck :S

Author:  Mimi [ Mon Nov 02, 2020 14:00 ]
Post subject:  Re: Coronavirus

Mr Chonks wrote:
You need to feel like the school are being honest with you and that they’re doing everything they can to contain the outbreak.
That’s just it. I just feel there is a lack of clarity, and because they seem to be going to extents *not* to inform people (we weren’t even told about the initial four teachers: they sent messages only to the parents with kids in those classes, so the rest of the school wasn’t informed) it doesn’t feel like they are interested in building trust and honesty, and ultimately that’s going to result in us having to be extra cautious in case we aren’t getting the fuller picture in the future.

Author:  Mimi [ Mon Nov 02, 2020 14:02 ]
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Jem wrote:
Grim... wrote:
Do you not get fined? It's £100 a week for us to keep the Grimlet at home, even though we're in the "XTREME" shielding category.

Fuuuuuck :S

Yeah, it’s bad. And think about how it affects poorer families who also might have complex family health conditions, who can’t afford the fine and so then are forced to send their kids into a potentially very dangerous situation. It’s a complete mess.

Edit: I don’t mean poorer than Grim... personally. I mean families struggling financially or with little expendable income.

Author:  Jem [ Mon Nov 02, 2020 14:06 ]
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Our local school has said they won't fine people. Kinda assumed it was universal :S

Author:  KovacsC [ Mon Nov 02, 2020 14:53 ]
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That is terrible, fining folks

Author:  MaliA [ Mon Nov 02, 2020 14:55 ]
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Fuck off am I standing outside clapping for teachers, which is the way it is probably headed.

Author:  Mimi [ Mon Nov 02, 2020 15:00 ]
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MaliA wrote:
Fuck off am I standing outside clapping for teachers, which is the way it is probably headed.

Qué?

Author:  Grim... [ Mon Nov 02, 2020 15:06 ]
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More of the self-congratulatory "clapping at 8pm for the NHS" bullshit to make people who do fuck all feel better about themselves.

Author:  MaliA [ Mon Nov 02, 2020 15:09 ]
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Mimi wrote:
MaliA wrote:
Fuck off am I standing outside clapping for teachers, which is the way it is probably headed.

Qué?


I'm preempting the next wave of empty gestures.

Author:  MaliA [ Mon Nov 02, 2020 15:09 ]
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Grim... wrote:
More of the self-congratulatory "clapping at 8pm for the NHS" bullshit to make people who do fuck all feel better about themselves.


Yeah, that , although teachers do do some stuff.

Author:  myp [ Mon Nov 02, 2020 15:12 ]
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Grim... wrote:
More of the self-congratulatory "clapping at 8pm for the NHS" bullshit to make people who do fuck all feel better about themselves.

It’s actually worse than this, the same sort of people who clap for the NHS are also the ones flouting the rules

Author:  flis [ Mon Nov 02, 2020 15:15 ]
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Mr Chonks wrote:
Grim... wrote:
More of the self-congratulatory "clapping at 8pm for the NHS" bullshit to make people who do fuck all feel better about themselves.

It’s actually worse than this, the same sort of people who clap for the NHS are also the ones flouting the rules


Yes, I was just about to say this! The ones with the Union flag on their FB/Twitter profiles, who plaster an NHS rainbow flair over the top, whilst spouting about how their human rights are being infringed because they're being forced to wear a mask to The A.S.D.A.

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