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Author:  Mimi [ Sat Oct 03, 2020 14:37 ]
Post subject:  Re: Coronavirus
markg wrote:
She's one of these QAnon fuckwits. It's terrifying that people like this are getting into power.

She got a few belters out yesterday:

https://twitter.com/DeAnna4Congress/sta ... 7842250752




https://twitter.com/DeAnna4Congress/sta ... 9546614786




And...

https://twitter.com/DeAnna4Congress/sta ... 5565716488




Is she some kind of undercover parody master account?
Author:  Mimi [ Sat Oct 03, 2020 14:38 ]
Post subject:  Re: Coronavirus
https://twitter.com/DeAnna4Congress/sta ... 4443854853
Author:  KovacsC [ Sat Oct 03, 2020 14:52 ]
Post subject:  Re: Coronavirus
She is fab isn’t she.
Author:  Findus Fop [ Sat Oct 03, 2020 15:19 ]
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https://twitter.com/MrOMFGWTAF/status/1 ... 6034583554




Demented.
Author:  Mimi [ Sat Oct 03, 2020 17:15 ]
Post subject:  Re: Coronavirus
Those tweets must be tongue-in-cheek.
Author:  DavPaz [ Sat Oct 03, 2020 17:27 ]
Post subject:  Re: Coronavirus
Mimi wrote:
Those tweets must be tongue-in-cheek.

You'd think so...
Author:  Kern [ Mon Oct 05, 2020 21:31 ]
Post subject:  Re: Coronavirus
Trump's discharging himself.

Oh dear.
Author:  Mimi [ Mon Oct 05, 2020 22:34 ]
Post subject:  Re: Coronavirus
Discharging... himself?
Author:  Mimi [ Mon Oct 05, 2020 22:39 ]
Post subject:  Re: Coronavirus
This was my worry. That he was going to play it all
down in some Putin-sequel show of bravado, leading his anti-mask hoards to spread it further.
Author:  Dimrill [ Tue Oct 06, 2020 1:17 ]
Post subject:  Re: Coronavirus
Funnily enough I was watching a documentary on Wayne Williams, the serial killer and paedophile. One of the first cases to use a criminal psychologist on the prosecution side. At one point he predicted that Williams at some point would feign an illness to gain control of the court proceedings. I have no idea why this is relevant.

Oh look! Shineys!

https://eu.usatoday.com/story/money/202 ... 628383001/
Author:  Warhead [ Tue Oct 06, 2020 16:56 ]
Post subject:  Re: Coronavirus
Dimrill wrote:
Funnily enough I was watching a documentary on Wayne Williams, the serial killer and paedophile. One of the first cases to use a criminal psychologist on the prosecution side. At one point he predicted that Williams at some point would feign an illness to gain control of the court proceedings. I have no idea why this is relevant.

Oh look! Shineys!

https://eu.usatoday.com/story/money/202 ... 628383001/

Well, yeah, but he hasn't survided it YET. Maybe they should mint a 'Trump has survived Covid-19 so far" coin.
Author:  Dr Zoidberg [ Tue Oct 06, 2020 17:46 ]
Post subject:  Re: Coronavirus
This NHS app may work now, but it's still got some way to go before you could class it as good and useful.

Helen's phone popped up with "you may have been exposed to Coronavirus" but it doesn't give any further details and you can't even see the warning in the app afterwards.
It doesn't log GPS details, so they obviously can't tell you where it happened, but they could let you know if it's because you checked in to a location, or because you were in close proximity to someone else and more importantly when. Without that you can't tell if this was a high risk situation where a test is advisable, or a low risk one where you don't need to bother.
Author:  Cras [ Tue Oct 06, 2020 18:20 ]
Post subject:  Re: Coronavirus
It's the latter. The wording is crappy but if it pops up with that and nothing else, it's a warning of low risk exposure. It'll be something like passing someone in the street, compared to spending 20 minutes in close proximity. If it's high risk that means get tested and/or isolate, it'll tell you so in the notification and in the app.
Author:  myp [ Tue Oct 06, 2020 18:47 ]
Post subject:  Re: Coronavirus
Cras wrote:
close proximity

:(
Author:  Malc [ Tue Oct 06, 2020 19:14 ]
Post subject:  Re: Coronavirus
Never really thought of that redundancy, but you can have degrees of proximity. A quick Google suggests there are recorded instances of it being used going back 150 years.

It's certainly no "hence why" which is the one that's really bugging me at the moment.
Author:  myp [ Tue Oct 06, 2020 19:28 ]
Post subject:  Re: Coronavirus
Closer proximity and closest proximity are entirely valid, yes.
Author:  Cras [ Tue Oct 06, 2020 19:40 ]
Post subject:  Re: Coronavirus
Mr Chonks wrote:
Closer proximity and closest proximity are entirely valid, yes.


Obviously it's me using that term as I am in no way qualified to...erm...qualify it. The app itself has a sliding scale of risk factors that combine to decide what constitutes a high risk exposure that requires isolation.

Now why it notifies you at all in the event of a low risk event I have no idea.
Author:  Cras [ Tue Oct 06, 2020 19:41 ]
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Oh I see, you were suggesting close proximity was a redundancy. Eh, maybe.
Author:  Malc [ Tue Oct 06, 2020 19:42 ]
Post subject:  Re: Coronavirus
Mr Chonks wrote:
Closer proximity and closest proximity are entirely valid, yes.



You're in proximity to me really doesn't sound right though, you're in close proximity to me does.
Author:  Mr Dave [ Tue Oct 06, 2020 19:45 ]
Post subject:  Re: Coronavirus
And yet...

Attachment:
proximity.png


Basically. Mop is wrong.
Author:  myp [ Tue Oct 06, 2020 23:07 ]
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I accept it has fallen into common usage because people don't know what proximity actually means, but it's as redundant as 'gateau cake' which I read on a menu tonight.

You don't say to someone who's far away that they're in far proximity to you.
Author:  Cras [ Tue Oct 06, 2020 23:09 ]
Post subject:  Re: Coronavirus
However you could. Proximity is a scale. I present as evidence Proxima Centauri. It is the nearest star of Centaurus, but it is certainly not in close proximity.
Author:  myp [ Tue Oct 06, 2020 23:10 ]
Post subject:  Re: Coronavirus
Malc wrote:
Mr Chonks wrote:
Closer proximity and closest proximity are entirely valid, yes.



You're in proximity to me really doesn't sound right though

And yet it's entirely correct and an efficient use of language.
Author:  myp [ Tue Oct 06, 2020 23:11 ]
Post subject:  Re: Coronavirus
Cras wrote:
However you could. Proximity is a scale. I present as evidence Proxima Centauri. It is the nearest star of Centaurus, but it is certainly not in close proximity.

It is in proximity relative to any other star, hence its name...

Are you trolling?
Author:  markg [ Tue Oct 06, 2020 23:14 ]
Post subject:  Re: Coronavirus
Isn't it just like saying very near as opposed to just near?
Author:  myp [ Tue Oct 06, 2020 23:20 ]
Post subject:  Re: Coronavirus
markg wrote:
Isn't it just like saying very near as opposed to just near?

Not really.

You could say "a is in closer proximity to b than c, but d is in the closest proximity of all."

'Close proximity' doesn't really have any meaning and is tautological in the same way 'completely devoid' is.
Author:  markg [ Tue Oct 06, 2020 23:33 ]
Post subject:  Re: Coronavirus
I've always just read it as emphasis I suppose. Like your other example, you could say "fucking devoid" instead and it would mean the same thing.
Author:  myp [ Tue Oct 06, 2020 23:56 ]
Post subject:  Re: Coronavirus
I guess, like the way people use ‘literally’ these days. And it’s fine, language evolves.

I still reserve the right to think it’s clunky and unnecessary though.
Author:  myp [ Tue Oct 06, 2020 23:59 ]
Post subject:  Re: Coronavirus
I bet you say naan bread too
Author:  Sir Taxalot [ Fri Oct 09, 2020 4:05 ]
Post subject:  Re: Coronavirus
I say naan / bread but the slash is silent
Author:  KovacsC [ Fri Oct 09, 2020 8:27 ]
Post subject:  Re: Coronavirus
I am not sure why the times can’t be accurate and you can’t check out.

As you can see it over lapped yesterday.
Author:  Kern [ Fri Oct 09, 2020 8:29 ]
Post subject:  Re: Coronavirus
Always good to have alibis.
Author:  MaliA [ Fri Oct 09, 2020 10:32 ]
Post subject:  Re: Coronavirus
https://twitter.com/helenpidd/status/13 ... 4117273600




I quite agree with him.
Author:  MaliA [ Mon Oct 12, 2020 11:48 ]
Post subject:  Re: Coronavirus
SmallOne is now not allowed to leave the house for two weeks due to a positive test on a child in her class.

I'm growing considerably more angry over this than I thought I would be. It"s an absolute failure in government.
Author:  MaliA [ Mon Oct 12, 2020 11:49 ]
Post subject:  Re: Coronavirus
https://twitter.com/paulwaugh/status/13 ... 4979397634




There you fucking go.
Author:  Warhead [ Mon Oct 12, 2020 15:44 ]
Post subject:  Re: Coronavirus
Mr Chonks wrote:
I bet you say naan bread too

And PIN number....... and 6am in the morning.
Author:  flis [ Mon Oct 12, 2020 16:26 ]
Post subject:  Re: Coronavirus
MaliA wrote:
SmallOne is now not allowed to leave the house for two weeks due to a positive test on a child in her class.

I'm growing considerably more angry over this than I thought I would be. It"s an absolute failure in government.


I can't begin to imagine how frustrating it must be over there now.

There are people over here who want our borders to reopen fully to allow free-movement without having to isolate for 14 days upon their return. There is a lot of "Let's just get on with it and if you don't want to risk catching it, stay inside" but I'm not at that stage at all. Like all of a sudden we're okay sacrificing either the freedoms or the lives of the vulnerable members of our society because people want to come and go as they please without isolating?
Author:  Hearthly [ Mon Oct 12, 2020 16:39 ]
Post subject:  Re: Coronavirus
flis wrote:
There are people over here who want our borders to reopen fully to allow free-movement without having to isolate for 14 days upon their return. There is a lot of "Let's just get on with it and if you don't want to risk catching it, stay inside" but I'm not at that stage at all. Like all of a sudden we're okay sacrificing either the freedoms or the lives of the vulnerable members of our society because people want to come and go as they please without isolating?


I absolutely can't get my head around that mindset, one of the welders who came over here as a key worker had Covid-19, the consequences of an infected person circulating in a population where we have no social distancing, no shielding, no masks, no extra sanitation etc doesn't really bear thinking about.

Some may say sending the five of them to jail was a bit harsh but they are the laws of the land, if you come here, follow the rules!

I can't help but feel some folks over here have got a bit blasé about the whole thing because we've been Covid-free for months already, do we really want to go back to how things were back in March and April? I think not. Besides which it's been well-established that there is simply too much movement in any population for the whole, 'Well just stay inside if you don't want to risk it' approach to even work anyway. Just even typing it out makes it sound as stupid as it is.

Moreover a lot of people are focusing far too much on the mortality rate, without giving consideration to the increasingly serious landscape of Long-Covid, which is looking like it's going to be a nasty problem going forward, even in some young and healthy people. There are still far too many unknowns about this disease, but we do know that it can attack multiple internal organs and the brain, the 'it's just a cold' crowd really boil my piss.
Author:  MaliA [ Tue Oct 13, 2020 9:34 ]
Post subject:  Re: Coronavirus
Still fucking furious.
Author:  markg [ Tue Oct 13, 2020 9:41 ]
Post subject:  Re: Coronavirus
Yeah, a lot of people are getting pretty emotional now. The whole country is in tiers. :facepalm:
Author:  Hearthly [ Tue Oct 13, 2020 9:45 ]
Post subject:  Re: Coronavirus
MaliA wrote:
Still fucking furious.


There's some debate around that though.

https://twitter.com/Peston/status/1315639240890429440
Author:  DavPaz [ Tue Oct 13, 2020 9:55 ]
Post subject:  Re: Coronavirus
markg wrote:
Yeah, a lot of people are getting pretty emotional now. The whole country is in tiers. :facepalm:

Stop that
Author:  MaliA [ Tue Oct 13, 2020 9:57 ]
Post subject:  Re: Coronavirus
DavPaz wrote:
markg wrote:
Yeah, a lot of people are getting pretty emotional now. The whole country is in tiers. :facepalm:

Stop that


I smirked
Author:  Mimi [ Tue Oct 13, 2020 10:03 ]
Post subject:  Re: Coronavirus
MaliA wrote:
Still fucking furious.

Please know I ask this only with curiosity, no judgement, but what/who are you furious with/about?

We are moving into tier two tomorrow it seems. On a personal note we were looking forwards to seeing my Ma in a couple of weeks, so disappointed to have to cancel that.
Author:  myp [ Tue Oct 13, 2020 10:13 ]
Post subject:  Re: Coronavirus
We are also tier two
Author:  Warhead [ Tue Oct 13, 2020 10:16 ]
Post subject:  Re: Coronavirus
Covid reinfection: Man (in the US) gets Covid twice and second hit 'more severe'

It can't be Donald as he is now immune, because he said so, and also because the bloke is 25. Then agasin, the orange one insists that he is "young."
Author:  Warhead [ Tue Oct 13, 2020 10:17 ]
Post subject:  Re: Coronavirus
Mimi wrote:
MaliA wrote:
Still fucking furious.

Please know I ask this only with curiosity, no judgement, but what/who are you furious with/about?

We are moving into tier two tomorrow it seems. On a personal note we were looking forwards to seeing my Ma in a couple of weeks, so disappointed to have to cancel that.


To answer your question, in my case, just about everything.
Author:  Warhead [ Tue Oct 13, 2020 10:19 ]
Post subject:  Re: Coronavirus
Just been into Manchester city centre, Piccadilly Gardens, for an M&S call. You'd think we were in almost complete lock down again. There are hardly and people, traffic is very light and parking spaces avaisble everywhere.
Author:  Jem [ Tue Oct 13, 2020 10:20 ]
Post subject:  Re: Coronavirus
I think Manchester is one of the places in local lockdown, isn't it? I don't know, completely lost track of how everything works now.
Author:  Mimi [ Tue Oct 13, 2020 10:24 ]
Post subject:  Re: Coronavirus
I thought it was just Merseyside in tier 3, but yes, it’s hard to remember what is what, now.
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