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 Post subject: Re: Coronavirus
PostPosted: Sat Oct 03, 2020 14:37 
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She's one of these QAnon fuckwits. It's terrifying that people like this are getting into power.

She got a few belters out yesterday:

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Is she some kind of undercover parody master account?

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 Post subject: Re: Coronavirus
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She is fab isn’t she.

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 Post subject: Re: Coronavirus
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Those tweets must be tongue-in-cheek.

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Those tweets must be tongue-in-cheek.

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 Post subject: Re: Coronavirus
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Trump's discharging himself.

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 Post subject: Re: Coronavirus
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Discharging... himself?

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 Post subject: Re: Coronavirus
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This was my worry. That he was going to play it all
down in some Putin-sequel show of bravado, leading his anti-mask hoards to spread it further.


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 Post subject: Re: Coronavirus
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Funnily enough I was watching a documentary on Wayne Williams, the serial killer and paedophile. One of the first cases to use a criminal psychologist on the prosecution side. At one point he predicted that Williams at some point would feign an illness to gain control of the court proceedings. I have no idea why this is relevant.

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 Post subject: Re: Coronavirus
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Funnily enough I was watching a documentary on Wayne Williams, the serial killer and paedophile. One of the first cases to use a criminal psychologist on the prosecution side. At one point he predicted that Williams at some point would feign an illness to gain control of the court proceedings. I have no idea why this is relevant.

Oh look! Shineys!

https://eu.usatoday.com/story/money/202 ... 628383001/

Well, yeah, but he hasn't survided it YET. Maybe they should mint a 'Trump has survived Covid-19 so far" coin.

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 Post subject: Re: Coronavirus
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This NHS app may work now, but it's still got some way to go before you could class it as good and useful.

Helen's phone popped up with "you may have been exposed to Coronavirus" but it doesn't give any further details and you can't even see the warning in the app afterwards.
It doesn't log GPS details, so they obviously can't tell you where it happened, but they could let you know if it's because you checked in to a location, or because you were in close proximity to someone else and more importantly when. Without that you can't tell if this was a high risk situation where a test is advisable, or a low risk one where you don't need to bother.


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 Post subject: Re: Coronavirus
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It's the latter. The wording is crappy but if it pops up with that and nothing else, it's a warning of low risk exposure. It'll be something like passing someone in the street, compared to spending 20 minutes in close proximity. If it's high risk that means get tested and/or isolate, it'll tell you so in the notification and in the app.

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 Post subject: Re: Coronavirus
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close proximity

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 Post subject: Re: Coronavirus
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Never really thought of that redundancy, but you can have degrees of proximity. A quick Google suggests there are recorded instances of it being used going back 150 years.

It's certainly no "hence why" which is the one that's really bugging me at the moment.

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Closer proximity and closest proximity are entirely valid, yes.

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 Post subject: Re: Coronavirus
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Mr Chonks wrote:
Closer proximity and closest proximity are entirely valid, yes.


Obviously it's me using that term as I am in no way qualified to...erm...qualify it. The app itself has a sliding scale of risk factors that combine to decide what constitutes a high risk exposure that requires isolation.

Now why it notifies you at all in the event of a low risk event I have no idea.

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 Post subject: Re: Coronavirus
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Oh I see, you were suggesting close proximity was a redundancy. Eh, maybe.

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 Post subject: Re: Coronavirus
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Closer proximity and closest proximity are entirely valid, yes.



You're in proximity to me really doesn't sound right though, you're in close proximity to me does.

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 Post subject: Re: Coronavirus
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I accept it has fallen into common usage because people don't know what proximity actually means, but it's as redundant as 'gateau cake' which I read on a menu tonight.

You don't say to someone who's far away that they're in far proximity to you.

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 Post subject: Re: Coronavirus
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However you could. Proximity is a scale. I present as evidence Proxima Centauri. It is the nearest star of Centaurus, but it is certainly not in close proximity.

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Closer proximity and closest proximity are entirely valid, yes.



You're in proximity to me really doesn't sound right though

And yet it's entirely correct and an efficient use of language.

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However you could. Proximity is a scale. I present as evidence Proxima Centauri. It is the nearest star of Centaurus, but it is certainly not in close proximity.

It is in proximity relative to any other star, hence its name...

Are you trolling?

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Isn't it just like saying very near as opposed to just near?


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 Post subject: Re: Coronavirus
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Isn't it just like saying very near as opposed to just near?

Not really.

You could say "a is in closer proximity to b than c, but d is in the closest proximity of all."

'Close proximity' doesn't really have any meaning and is tautological in the same way 'completely devoid' is.

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I've always just read it as emphasis I suppose. Like your other example, you could say "fucking devoid" instead and it would mean the same thing.


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I guess, like the way people use ‘literally’ these days. And it’s fine, language evolves.

I still reserve the right to think it’s clunky and unnecessary though.

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I bet you say naan bread too

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I say naan / bread but the slash is silent

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I am not sure why the times can’t be accurate and you can’t check out.

As you can see it over lapped yesterday.


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 Post subject: Re: Coronavirus
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https://twitter.com/helenpidd/status/13 ... 4117273600




I quite agree with him.

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SmallOne is now not allowed to leave the house for two weeks due to a positive test on a child in her class.

I'm growing considerably more angry over this than I thought I would be. It"s an absolute failure in government.

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https://twitter.com/paulwaugh/status/13 ... 4979397634




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I bet you say naan bread too

And PIN number....... and 6am in the morning.

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SmallOne is now not allowed to leave the house for two weeks due to a positive test on a child in her class.

I'm growing considerably more angry over this than I thought I would be. It"s an absolute failure in government.


I can't begin to imagine how frustrating it must be over there now.

There are people over here who want our borders to reopen fully to allow free-movement without having to isolate for 14 days upon their return. There is a lot of "Let's just get on with it and if you don't want to risk catching it, stay inside" but I'm not at that stage at all. Like all of a sudden we're okay sacrificing either the freedoms or the lives of the vulnerable members of our society because people want to come and go as they please without isolating?

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There are people over here who want our borders to reopen fully to allow free-movement without having to isolate for 14 days upon their return. There is a lot of "Let's just get on with it and if you don't want to risk catching it, stay inside" but I'm not at that stage at all. Like all of a sudden we're okay sacrificing either the freedoms or the lives of the vulnerable members of our society because people want to come and go as they please without isolating?


I absolutely can't get my head around that mindset, one of the welders who came over here as a key worker had Covid-19, the consequences of an infected person circulating in a population where we have no social distancing, no shielding, no masks, no extra sanitation etc doesn't really bear thinking about.

Some may say sending the five of them to jail was a bit harsh but they are the laws of the land, if you come here, follow the rules!

I can't help but feel some folks over here have got a bit blasé about the whole thing because we've been Covid-free for months already, do we really want to go back to how things were back in March and April? I think not. Besides which it's been well-established that there is simply too much movement in any population for the whole, 'Well just stay inside if you don't want to risk it' approach to even work anyway. Just even typing it out makes it sound as stupid as it is.

Moreover a lot of people are focusing far too much on the mortality rate, without giving consideration to the increasingly serious landscape of Long-Covid, which is looking like it's going to be a nasty problem going forward, even in some young and healthy people. There are still far too many unknowns about this disease, but we do know that it can attack multiple internal organs and the brain, the 'it's just a cold' crowd really boil my piss.

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Still fucking furious.

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Yeah, a lot of people are getting pretty emotional now. The whole country is in tiers. :facepalm:


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Still fucking furious.


There's some debate around that though.

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Yeah, a lot of people are getting pretty emotional now. The whole country is in tiers. :facepalm:

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Yeah, a lot of people are getting pretty emotional now. The whole country is in tiers. :facepalm:

Stop that


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Still fucking furious.

Please know I ask this only with curiosity, no judgement, but what/who are you furious with/about?

We are moving into tier two tomorrow it seems. On a personal note we were looking forwards to seeing my Ma in a couple of weeks, so disappointed to have to cancel that.

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Covid reinfection: Man (in the US) gets Covid twice and second hit 'more severe'

It can't be Donald as he is now immune, because he said so, and also because the bloke is 25. Then agasin, the orange one insists that he is "young."

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Still fucking furious.

Please know I ask this only with curiosity, no judgement, but what/who are you furious with/about?

We are moving into tier two tomorrow it seems. On a personal note we were looking forwards to seeing my Ma in a couple of weeks, so disappointed to have to cancel that.


To answer your question, in my case, just about everything.

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Just been into Manchester city centre, Piccadilly Gardens, for an M&S call. You'd think we were in almost complete lock down again. There are hardly and people, traffic is very light and parking spaces avaisble everywhere.

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I think Manchester is one of the places in local lockdown, isn't it? I don't know, completely lost track of how everything works now.

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I thought it was just Merseyside in tier 3, but yes, it’s hard to remember what is what, now.

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