Coronavirus

markg · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 16556

Sir Taxalot wrote:

DBSnappa wrote:

I’ve had full blown influenza once. I’ve never been so ill in my life. Took me six months to fully recover.
I know this is different but there reports coming out that medics have been telling people who get this bad and recover, that it will take a long time to clear your system.

Yeah, real flu is shit, so when people say the covids is 'just the flu' I point out that what they have experienced in the past when they had a 'touch of the flu' almost certainly wasn't really flu at all but just a bad cold.

I've only had a proper flu once, and haven't had it as bad as Snappa, but when I did it was fucking shit; I couldn't get out of bed for days and was too ill to watch telly, play video games, read or do anything other than just lay in bed. It was horrid.

I recall at the time feeling annoyed, it felt like a 'waste' of being home sick and not being able to do anything comforting/distracting like I normally would on a sick-day... until I relaised that, shit, this is what really being actually properly sick really is - not just a bit poorly. It changed my perspective and made me more careful with how i labelled things.

"It wasn't flu, just a cold" is absolute bunk. You can have flu without being as ill as that, just like coronavirus symptoms vary from one individual to the next. Or are we going to start telling people they've not had "proper coronavirus" unless they ended up on a ventilator? Hopefully this might make people a bit more careful around others when they're full of a cold. Because it might well be flu and the next person they give it to might be less fortunate than them wrt their symptoms.

Grim... · **Posted:** Wed Apr 15, 2020 19:57

I had flu once, and could barely fucking move.

KovacsC · **Posted:** Wed Apr 15, 2020 22:35

Grim... wrote:

I had flu once, and could barely fucking move.

I was in bed for 2 days, i could not more.. It was awful.. I make sure i have my jab now

DBSnappa · **Posted:** Thu Apr 16, 2020 6:53

KovacsC wrote:

Grim... wrote:

I had flu once, and could barely fucking move.

I was in bed for 2 days, i could not more.. It was awful.. I make sure i have my jab now

I was 20, fit and healthy. I was in bed for nearly three weeks. For at least 10 of those days I felt like I’d been dropped down a lift shaft. It even hurt when I blinked. I think I’d caught what was called at the time szchenuan ‘flu

LewieP · **Joined:** 29th Apr, 2008 **Posts:** 7600

Yeah I had a 3 month chest infection a few years ago. That was way worse than this.

Symptoms still lingering though. Most medical advice I've seen suggests I'm probably no longer contagious, but I'm still operating under the assumption that I am until after my symptoms are 100% cleared up.

TheVision · **Posted:** Sun Apr 19, 2020 14:00

The people who live in the house that backs onto our house are having another family gathering including people that don't live there! They did this last Sunday too... There's even a baby in a pram there.

myp · **Posted:** Sun Apr 19, 2020 14:22

Yep, our next-door neighbours had a gathering last weekend. Bellends.

TheVision · **Posted:** Sun Apr 19, 2020 14:24

I've just reported them via the online police chat thingy.

myp · **Posted:** Sun Apr 19, 2020 14:32

TheVision wrote:

I've just reported them via the online police chat thingy.

It’s ok, they’ve probably already reported you for fly tipping, so it’s fair

TheVision · **Posted:** Sun Apr 19, 2020 15:04

All's fair when you're breaking the law... Or going against government guidelines.

Jem · **Posted:** Mon Apr 20, 2020 10:01

I'm not sure any of our neighbours are paying attention to the guidelines. On one side they had a family BBQ complete with elderly parents, on the the other side I heard the woman say she was going to see her mum for an hour, which would be fine but her husband is still working every day so the risk there must be increased. Madness.

KovacsC · **Posted:** Mon Apr 20, 2020 11:09

Folks just don't get it...

GazChap · **Posted:** Tue Apr 21, 2020 8:09

https://twitter.com/jdpoc/status/1252266724449230848

Regarding those 128 fake #NHS Staff accounts posting for 'Herd Mentality' and support of the Govt that were set up by @DHSCgovuk or their marketing agency ...

Posts were sent using Hootsuite, a mass-posting tool. Account registered to 1 person with 4 assigned contributors. pic.twitter.com/r7fRFQaFwG
— John O'Connell (@jdpoc) April 20, 2020

If this is true, then fuck everything, nothing surprises me any more about this government.

KovacsC · **Posted:** Tue Apr 21, 2020 8:18

That is shocking.. just what is the point?

Kern · **Posted:** Tue Apr 21, 2020 9:24

GazChap wrote:

If this is true, then fuck everything, nothing surprises me any more about this government.

It's amazing how well-funded and well-equipped the NHS has been since we didn't change the voting system and left the EU.

Doctor Glyndwr · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 32619

GazChap wrote:

If this is true...

It probably isn't.

https://twitter.com/MarkDiStef/status/1 ... 9989385216

NEW: In response to claims in that Twitter thread with 25k+ RTs that the UK Department of Health has been running a network of fake NHS accounts, a Twitter spokesperson tells me specialist teams have found *no co-ordinated manipulation* specifically in this case. pic.twitter.com/XGJjweoc2E
— Mark Di Stefano (@MarkDiStef) April 21, 2020

If you look just at the one screenshot in the tweet you linked to alone, it looks a lot like bullshit. It's an utterly unconvincing profile. Even the govt could do better than that, if it set out to do this.

GazChap · **Posted:** Tue Apr 21, 2020 14:31

I'd certainly be interested to see the data and evidence that they've used to formulate their allegations.

Doctor Glyndwr · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 32619

GazChap wrote:

I'd certainly be interested to see the data and evidence that they've used to formulate their allegations.

Consider the debunking in here

https://twitter.com/imbadatlife/status/ ... 6849556480

Firstly, the OP repeatedly claims there are 128 accounts involved. However, not a single screenshot or handle from any account other than the original account is actually given in the thread. Why is there not a single other account public? https://t.co/i0E4JNqJ6M
— Luke Bailey (@imbadatlife) April 21, 2020

also
https://twitter.com/JimmySecUK/status/1 ... 2760800258

And let's have a look at some of the tweets from the account in question. It's pretty obviously an incredibly unfunny right-wing troll + in my opinion that's all it is.

If you wanted to impersonate an NHS worker and be taken seriously you wouldn't be posting stuff like thisðŸ‘‡ pic.twitter.com/eaPODUDC1I
— Jimmy (@JimmySecUK) April 20, 2020

Meanwhile the credulpous idiots at Skwawkbox have lapped it up: "BIGGEST POLITICAL SCANDAL SINCE CAMBRIDGE ANALYTICA ABOUT TO BREAK AS FAKE NHS ACCOUNTS ‘SET UP BY DEPT OF HEALTH’"

Jem · **Posted:** Tue Apr 21, 2020 14:42

Twitter's statement says that they see no "large scale coordinated manipulation". Cynical me says the gov creating a handful of fake accounts isn't large scale.

(eta: that's not an assertion of guilt from me, just me not seeing twitter's statement as a well worded denial either)

Trooper · **Joined:** 4th Mar, 2010 **Posts:** 22266

In my experience, there is no way gov IT is even competent enough to reach that level of incompetence.

Doctor Glyndwr · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 32619

https://twitter.com/jane__bradley/statu ... 2235455493

If you read one thing about ~that~ viral fake NHS accounts story, make it this forensic analysis by @flashboy, which lays out exactly what questions still need answering on the evidence behind the claims â€” oh and the guy behind it has form. https://t.co/oXjsCOE4Rh pic.twitter.com/MPsXaW1pgc
— Jane Bradley (@jane__bradley) April 21, 2020

I’m pretty sure it can be dismissed.

GazChap · **Posted:** Tue Apr 21, 2020 20:23

Aye, most likely.

Massive own goal though, if he has essentially made this up then he's well and truly destroyed any semblance of credibility that he may have hung on to.

Doctor Glyndwr · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 32619

https://twitter.com/flashboy/status/1252968863249174530

Update to our DHSC â€œfake Twitter accountsâ€ article - statement from Hootsuite, the tool supposedly used to post to the alleged accounts. They say internal investigation found no evidence. https://t.co/ZAQoF8JVIt pic.twitter.com/wUNYGx8xhZ
— Tom Phillips (@flashboy) April 22, 2020

RBR2 · **Posted:** Thu Apr 23, 2020 17:03

Kern · **Posted:** Fri Apr 24, 2020 6:50

I've woken up to read that the President of the United States suggested on television that people drink bleach

Quote:

"And then I see the disinfectant where it knocks it out in a minute,” Trump said. “One minute! And is there a way we can do something, by an injection inside or almost a cleaning? Because you see it gets in the lungs and it does a tremendous number on the lungs, so it’d be interesting to check that. So, that you’re going to have to use medical doctors with, but it sounds interesting to me."

Of course, this might be a cherrypicked quote but I find I can't watch him without finding myself becoming 15% stupider every minute, and the transcripts tend to be an insult to those infinite typing monkeys.

markg · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 16556

No it's not cherry picked, it was every bit as fucking idiotic and more:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-52407177

Kern · **Posted:** Fri Apr 24, 2020 6:58

Remind me never to try giving him the benefit of the doubt.

Kern · **Posted:** Fri Apr 24, 2020 7:23

mrak wrote:

Textbook

Our absent friend should have filmed it.

Grim... · **Posted:** Fri Apr 24, 2020 10:14

https://twitter.com/sarahcpr/status/1253474772702429189

How to medical pic.twitter.com/0EDqJcy38p
— Sarah Cooper (@sarahcpr) April 24, 2020

h/t to Doc

Warhead · Noob as of 6/8/10

Once Trump realises that he can bathe the earth in bleach or disinfectant for the population to breath in the fumes, by funding the world's airlines to diseminate via their vapour trails and also get his space force to blast the planet with untraviolet light, Covid 19 will be eliminated in a few weeks.

Goddess Jasmine · **Posted:** Fri Apr 24, 2020 17:08

Drones!

Goddess Jasmine · **Posted:** Fri Apr 24, 2020 17:08

markg wrote:

No it's not cherry picked, it was every bit as fucking idiotic and more:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-52407177

I have no issue with testing this on him.

MaliA · **Posted:** Fri Apr 24, 2020 19:18

Malc asked me to ask Devon and Cornwall police if he is being a naughty.

https://twitter.com/MaliciousA/status/1 ... 6981713920

Can I drive 13 miles, run home, then cycle back to the car and drive home? https://t.co/MrRt86I1ek
— MaliciousA (@MaliciousA) April 24, 2020

MaliA · **Posted:** Fri Apr 24, 2020 19:19

Fuck. Comma missing.

Kern · **Posted:** Thu Apr 30, 2020 8:41

Lots of gossip in the press this morning about our glorious saviour's return to work and likelihood of a lifting of restrictions. I can't see a major change happening, but they'll probably come up with something small for the forthcoming bank holiday and claim it as a start. I reckon we're on for a slow trudge through the year, with mass gatherings, pubs, and theatres still shut until the autumn at least.

markg · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 16556

Was reading a pretty interesting article yesterday stating that not one single case of a child under 10 transmitting the virus has been identified. Not just here but in all the contact tracing done by WHO. More study is needed but that would ease things a lot if true and nurseries and primary schools could reopen. Or we could train up all the under tens as key workers.

myp · **Posted:** Thu Apr 30, 2020 8:59

markg wrote:

Was reading a pretty interesting article yesterday stating that not one single case of a child under 10 transmitting the virus has been identified. Not just here but in all the contact tracing done by WHO. More study is needed but that would ease things a lot if true and nurseries and primary schools could reopen. Or we could train up all the under tens as key workers.

On the other hand, they’ve found an increase with children being hospitalised with a causes-yet-unknown inflammatory disease which may or may not be linked with Covid.

markg · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 16556

Yeah, it's really small numbers though they need to find out what's going on. Also there's no suggestion that the virus has mutated to cause this so unlikely that numbers should increase if turns out it is related to Covid in some way.

MaliA · **Posted:** Thu Apr 30, 2020 9:16

I cannot wait for the schools to return

Trooper · **Joined:** 4th Mar, 2010 **Posts:** 22266

This is the backstory to Logan's Run, isn't it? Or Lord of the Flies, or Peter Pan. Or Bugsy Malone.

Jem · **Posted:** Thu Apr 30, 2020 10:26

markg wrote:

Was reading a pretty interesting article yesterday stating that not one single case of a child under 10 transmitting the virus has been identified. Not just here but in all the contact tracing done by WHO. More study is needed but that would ease things a lot if true and nurseries and primary schools could reopen. Or we could train up all the under tens as key workers.

There were more than one scientist on twitter yesterday debunking this idea that kids can't transmit the virus. Obvs twitter, so obligatory 'grain of salt' notice...

I'll save the link if any of them pop up again.

KovacsC · **Posted:** Thu Apr 30, 2020 15:42

We have been told, we are working form home till July 6th, then will be evaluated then.

DBSnappa · **Posted:** Thu Apr 30, 2020 15:48

KovacsC wrote:

We have been told, we are working form home till July 6th, then will be evaluated then.

Interestingly, my brother's manager has called to say that his company (Xerox) have heard from the govmt that they should furlough until the end of June.
Nothing on the news yet..

MaliA · **Posted:** Thu Apr 30, 2020 16:01

DBSnappa wrote:

KovacsC wrote:

We have been told, we are working form home till July 6th, then will be evaluated then.

Interestingly, my brother's manager has called to say that his company (Xerox) have heard from the govmt that they should furlough until the end of June.
Nothing on the news yet..

I don't think I could do another two months wfh

Goddess Jasmine · **Posted:** Thu Apr 30, 2020 16:08

I've been told August, but we are still going into establishments to help out. I'm in next week, will be nice to see some different faces to be honest (no offence to Joans).

KovacsC · **Posted:** Thu Apr 30, 2020 16:09

MaliA wrote:

DBSnappa wrote:

KovacsC wrote:

We have been told, we are working form home till July 6th, then will be evaluated then.

Interestingly, my brother's manager has called to say that his company (Xerox) have heard from the govmt that they should furlough until the end of June.
Nothing on the news yet..

I don't think I could do another two months wfh

it is doing my head in

Goddess Jasmine · **Posted:** Thu Apr 30, 2020 16:12

KovacsC wrote:

MaliA wrote:

DBSnappa wrote:

KovacsC wrote:

We have been told, we are working form home till July 6th, then will be evaluated then.

Interestingly, my brother's manager has called to say that his company (Xerox) have heard from the govmt that they should furlough until the end of June.
Nothing on the news yet..

I don't think I could do another two months wfh

it is doing my head in

I'm really struggling to focus and motivate myself, there are so many other things I would rather be doing.

KovacsC · **Posted:** Thu Apr 30, 2020 16:32

Yes.. it is not ideal.. I guess it could be worse.

Goddess Jasmine · **Posted:** Thu Apr 30, 2020 16:35

KovacsC wrote:

Yes.. it is not ideal.. I guess it could be worse.

Oh most definitely. I am in a very fortunate position. But my brain doesn't seem to understand this and wants to do 'fun' stuff instead because it's more interesting.

KovacsC · **Posted:** Thu Apr 30, 2020 17:20

yes, downloading xcom 2 will help me be productive

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