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Author:  LewieP [ Thu Jan 30, 2020 15:28 ]
Post subject:  Re: Picard

Mr Chonks wrote:
It’s like saying you can’t watch the Mandalorian without seeing 11 films and the Clone Wars/Rebels cartoons. Yes there are some cool nods to the lore and returning characters, but can you enjoy it just on its own merits? Yes.

I would also recommend that people watch the Star Wars films before watching The Mandalorian. At least the original trilogy.

Author:  myp [ Thu Jan 30, 2020 15:29 ]
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I would recommend that too. But it’s not essential.

Author:  MaliA [ Thu Jan 30, 2020 18:33 ]
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You could watch paint dry and suffer the same excitement as The Mandlorian.

Author:  myp [ Thu Jan 30, 2020 18:46 ]
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MaliA wrote:
You could watch paint dry and suffer the same excitement as Riverdell.

Author:  DavPaz [ Thu Jan 30, 2020 20:16 ]
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MaliA wrote:
You could watch paint dry and suffer the same excitement as The Mandlorian.

It gets better

Author:  Sir Taxalot [ Thu Jan 30, 2020 20:49 ]
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The paint drying or the Mandalorian?

Author:  myp [ Thu Jan 30, 2020 21:48 ]
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DavPaz wrote:
MaliA wrote:
You could watch paint dry and suffer the same excitement as The Mandlorian.

It gets better

I thought it started well, sagged in the middle and ended strongly.

Author:  Dimrill [ Thu Jan 30, 2020 22:06 ]
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I've just noticed that the word "Picard" also sounds like someone saying "pick hard". This could be used for comedic purposes. For instance combining it with a nose (rude), or a bottom (quite rude). If anyone would like to use this in conversation get in touch and I'm sure we can arrange some sort of licensing agreement.

Author:  Zardoz [ Fri Jan 31, 2020 8:46 ]
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Also sounds like a magician in a rush.

Author:  Dimrill [ Fri Jan 31, 2020 9:03 ]
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Or a vegetable playing a delightful game of whist or gin rummy. Obviously this has a less commercial application than my original idea, so I will not be developing it further.

Author:  Findus Fop [ Fri Jan 31, 2020 10:01 ]
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Hard-bitten cop John McClane has two problems: Hans Gruber won't stop texting him, and he has crippling constipation. Armed with a pencil, there's only one way his day's gonna get better.

Author:  DavPaz [ Fri Jan 31, 2020 10:51 ]
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Vegan pastry.

ZOMG Spoiler! Click here to view!
Pie: Card

Author:  Morte [ Fri Jan 31, 2020 13:54 ]
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Can we all agree that swearing has no place in Star Trek?

It's so jarring.

Author:  markg [ Fri Jan 31, 2020 13:57 ]
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Given that I've not even noticed, no.

Author:  Cras [ Fri Jan 31, 2020 13:59 ]
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I like it, I think it works well where it's used.

Author:  Bamba [ Fri Jan 31, 2020 14:11 ]
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Morte wrote:
Can we all agree that swearing has no place in Star Trek?


We can not. People swear; people in believable well-written fiction can swear as well.

Author:  myp [ Fri Jan 31, 2020 15:36 ]
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Morte wrote:
Can we all agree that swearing has no place in Star Trek?

It's so jarring.

It’s fucking awesome

Author:  Grim... [ Fri Jan 31, 2020 16:12 ]
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I dunno, I remember thinking that it sounded really forced in STD.

An unfortunate acronym.

Author:  BikNorton [ Fri Jan 31, 2020 20:20 ]
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Grim... wrote:
I dunno, I remember thinking that it sounded really forced in STD.

An unfortunate acronym.

Me too

Author:  myp [ Fri Jan 31, 2020 20:46 ]
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I thought it was great. It might be because I have a crush on Ensign Tilly though.

Author:  Grim... [ Fri Jan 31, 2020 22:02 ]
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Mr Chonks wrote:
I thought it was great. It might be because I have a crush on Ensign Tilly though.

Well, that was obviously the case also.

Author:  MrChris [ Tue Feb 18, 2020 14:15 ]
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We'll skate over Mali's EPIC WRONGNESS up there and stick to Picard - cor, this is a bit good, isn't it? Mr Stewart has definitely developed a strong "troubled old man" schtick (c.f. Logan). Very well shot, brilliantly atmospheric. I will watch more of this.

Author:  Cras [ Tue Feb 18, 2020 14:17 ]
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I think it's...'fine'

Author:  MrChris [ Tue Feb 18, 2020 14:19 ]
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My only complaint so far is his rubbish choice in dog breeds.

Author:  krazywookie [ Tue Feb 18, 2020 15:17 ]
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I'm going with "quite good"

Author:  MrChris [ Tue Feb 18, 2020 15:22 ]
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krazywookie wrote:
I'm going with "quite good"

That bad?

Author:  MrChris [ Tue Feb 18, 2020 15:29 ]
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"This facility has 5483 days without an assimilation"
mega heh

Author:  KovacsC [ Tue Feb 18, 2020 16:18 ]
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MrChris wrote:
"This facility has 5483 days without an assimilation"
mega heh


That did make me chuckle...

Author:  Sir Taxalot [ Wed Feb 19, 2020 0:48 ]
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I'm enjoying it, and I really like the intro music and opening sequence. It's got quite polarised reviews on imdb tho and in my easily-swayed nature I find myself agreeing with both the good reviews and the bad ones (or at least, elements thereof).

MrChris wrote:
We'll skate over Mali's EPIC WRONGNESS up there and stick to Picard - cor, this is a bit good, isn't it? Mr Stewart has definitely developed a strong "troubled old man" schtick (c.f. Logan). Very well shot, brilliantly atmospheric. I will watch more of this.


How much of it is him acting and how much is just that he's a real old duffer now anyway?

Author:  LewieP [ Thu Mar 05, 2020 18:20 ]
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I think I hate this show.

I don't even want it to just be the same as TNG, it should obviously try to push things forward, but feels like they're making the least interesting choice at every opportunity.

Furthermore, how many of the best Star Trek stories have involved a threat that might destroy all life in the galaxy, or another massive galactic scale stakes?

DS9 obviously dealt with large scale war, but focused on showing the human cost and personal experiences in that conflict.

Author:  myp [ Thu Mar 05, 2020 18:51 ]
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Have you watched all 58 seasons and 28 movies to prepare though? It’s important you do this

Author:  LewieP [ Thu Mar 05, 2020 18:53 ]
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Mr Chonks wrote:
Have you watched all 58 seasons and 28 movies to prepare though? It’s important you do this


Yeah I've watched all of Star Trek.

Author:  myp [ Thu Mar 05, 2020 18:59 ]
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And you still don’t like it? Not a fan then

Author:  Doctor Glyndwr [ Thu Mar 05, 2020 19:00 ]
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LewieP wrote:
Mr Chonks wrote:
Have you watched all 58 seasons and 28 movies to prepare though? It’s important you do this


Yeah I've watched all of Star Trek.

Maybe you should start over from the beginning again to double check.

Author:  LewieP [ Thu Mar 05, 2020 22:27 ]
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Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
LewieP wrote:
Mr Chonks wrote:
Have you watched all 58 seasons and 28 movies to prepare though? It’s important you do this


Yeah I've watched all of Star Trek.

Maybe you should start over from the beginning again to double check.

Kinda tempted tbh. Or maybe just DS9.

Author:  Sir Taxalot [ Fri Mar 06, 2020 0:19 ]
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That episode where Picard dresses up in fancy dress was a bit shit in places.

Also watching old people be a bit old and lightly reminiscing about old times makes me feel old.

Author:  Zardoz [ Fri Mar 06, 2020 11:03 ]
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I've lost interest.

Author:  KovacsC [ Fri Mar 06, 2020 11:06 ]
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LewieP wrote:
Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
LewieP wrote:
Mr Chonks wrote:
Have you watched all 58 seasons and 28 movies to prepare though? It’s important you do this


Yeah I've watched all of Star Trek.

Maybe you should start over from the beginning again to double check.

Kinda tempted tbh. Or maybe just DS9.


DS9 is not true Star Trek, it is more B5 in my view

Author:  DavPaz [ Fri Mar 06, 2020 11:23 ]
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KovacsC wrote:
DS9 is not true Star Trek, it is more B5 in my view

Get. The Fuck. Out.

Author:  Satsuma [ Fri Mar 06, 2020 11:30 ]
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Deep Space 9? Hollyoaks in space, more like.

Author:  DavPaz [ Fri Mar 06, 2020 11:32 ]
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Satsuma wrote:
Deep Space 9? Hollyoaks in space, more like.

Giphy "wrong":
https://media1.giphy.com/media/MF0qjEZlt51cODV4t7/giphy-loop.mp4

Author:  KovacsC [ Fri Mar 06, 2020 11:47 ]
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DavPaz wrote:
KovacsC wrote:
DS9 is not true Star Trek, it is more B5 in my view

Get. The Fuck. Out.



I like it, it is just not the clinical white ships in space.

DS9 is one of my fav sci-fi...


Just not true Trek :P

Author:  LewieP [ Fri Mar 06, 2020 11:59 ]
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Well I like DS9 because it's like it's pushing Federation ideology to it's limits, seeing how far the Utopian ideals can bend when thrown into a murky situation with no easy answers.

It's like the opposite side of the coin to TNG.

You need both though.

Author:  Sir Taxalot [ Mon Mar 09, 2020 5:13 ]
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Sir Taxalot wrote:
Also watching old people be a bit old and lightly reminiscing about old times makes me feel old.


Zardoz wrote:
I've lost interest.


I think I have a bit too, now :(

I fell asleep in this recent episode and woke to find it'd finished, so I 'rewound' back to roughly where I remembered seeing... and then fell asleep again.

Riker looked old and Troi looked funny and it seemed kind of forced to me. While I still think Riker's pretty cool, there's a danger revisiting old things in that they might turn out to be worse then we remember them :'(

Author:  MaliA [ Mon Mar 09, 2020 7:49 ]
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Sir Taxalot wrote:
, there's a danger revisiting old things in that they might turn out to be worse then we remember them :'(



totally

Author:  Goddess Jasmine [ Mon Mar 09, 2020 8:00 ]
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MaliA wrote:
Sir Taxalot wrote:
, there's a danger revisiting old things in that they might turn out to be worse then we remember them :'(



totally

Not a good time for me to click on that link - I need to get to work! :D

Author:  KovacsC [ Mon Mar 09, 2020 14:16 ]
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I am still enjoying Picard, I like the slow paced feel to it.

Author:  markg [ Mon Mar 09, 2020 14:22 ]
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It's not what I hoped somehow, I guess different writers or whatnot but Picard doesn't even feel like the same person. Special guest stars popping in and out every week. I dunno, it all just seems like a bit of a mess.

Author:  LewieP [ Tue Mar 10, 2020 2:06 ]
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Yeah their whole thing about Picard not being good with kids is bizarre because he lived a whole life and had kids and grandkids and was shown to have good relations with the children.

Maybe the writers of Picard never saw that episode of TNG.

Edit: just one example of many. It's not even plot inconsistencies that bug me, is character ones.

I can even accept that characters change over time, but a lot of this stuff is without rhyme or reason.

Author:  KovacsC [ Tue Mar 10, 2020 11:00 ]
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I have a kid, does not mean I am good with kids :)

As I have got older I have got less tolerant.. I can see what they are doing..

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