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 Post subject: Re: Picard
PostPosted: Wed Mar 18, 2020 0:21 
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I'm enjoying this enough to keep watching it, just. But jeez, as someone not keen on actors having a go at accents unless they're really really good, episode 8 was TEETH-GRINDINGLY painful. Oh look! He can do Irish, and Scottish! No. No, he can't.


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 Post subject: Re: Picard
PostPosted: Wed Mar 18, 2020 0:32 
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I'd almost forgotten this, i'd have two or maybe 3 episodes to catch up on.

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 Post subject: Re: Picard
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It's shit.


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 Post subject: Re: Picard
PostPosted: Fri Mar 20, 2020 10:40 
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9th episode had some elements I liked, but yeah it is pretty shit.


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 Post subject: Re: Picard
PostPosted: Fri Mar 20, 2020 10:46 
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I'm enjoying this enough to keep watching it, just. But jeez, as someone not keen on actors having a go at accents unless they're really really good, episode 8 was TEETH-GRINDINGLY painful. Oh look! He can do Irish, and Scottish! No. No, he can't.


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 Post subject: Re: Picard
PostPosted: Thu Mar 26, 2020 15:39 
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I finished the season. The writers of Picard are absolute cowards.

Don't even really know where to start with my problems with it. I think what they were trying to do was inherently unambitious, and their execution on it could be generously described as clumsy.


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 Post subject: Re: Picard
PostPosted: Thu Mar 26, 2020 17:35 
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Man, the days of watching previous star treks so that I could watch it have been wasted. WASTED!


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 Post subject: Re: Picard
PostPosted: Thu Mar 26, 2020 19:00 
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I thought it was good.

EDIT: j/k clearly I ain’t watching this fanboy spaff


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 Post subject: Re: Picard
PostPosted: Thu Mar 26, 2020 21:31 
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Mr Dave wrote:
Man, the days of watching previous star treks so that I could watch it have been wasted. WASTED!

Lol at least you got to watch the good star trek.


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 Post subject: Re: Picard
PostPosted: Sun Mar 29, 2020 6:27 
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I also thought it was good.

I liked the lack of big white shops fighting in space.

Felt more intimate with some nods to the past.

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 Post subject: Re: Picard
PostPosted: Sun Mar 29, 2020 9:40 
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I'd tune in to watch SHOP WARS.

Sainsbury's vs Waitrose, only one can prevail.

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 Post subject: Re: Picard
PostPosted: Sun Mar 29, 2020 9:47 
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I'd tune in to watch SHOP WARS.

Sainsbury's vs Waitrose, only one can prevail.


Tesco has the mass, but I think the unpredictable chaos of Aldi would make the latter a tricky foe.


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 Post subject: Re: Picard
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Findus Fop wrote:
Hearthly wrote:
I'd tune in to watch SHOP WARS.

Sainsbury's vs Waitrose, only one can prevail.


Tesco has the mass, but I think the unpredictable chaos of Aldi would make the latter a tricky foe.

Lidl is clearly the millennium falcon
Tesco is a star destroyer
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 Post subject: Re: Picard
PostPosted: Sun Mar 29, 2020 10:18 
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More intimate?

It was another Galaxy-destroying level threat, full of explosions, shootouts, sword fights, and people shouting "Fuck".

It was the least intimate version of Star Trek possible.

Edit: Wouldn't be so bad but the showrunner literally outlined what would have been an actual intimate version of of the show but said that people weren't "ready for it"

https://twitter.com/adambvary/status/12 ... 9085768704




That, or at least some kind of middle ground between that and what we actually got would have been far more interesting.


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 Post subject: Re: Picard
PostPosted: Sun Mar 29, 2020 10:26 
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Breaking Bad in Spaceships fuelled by Cats with Nathon Fillion and Gillian Anderson.

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 Post subject: Re: Picard
PostPosted: Sun Mar 29, 2020 10:34 
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Full disclosure, I haven't watched a single episode of Picard, but I do like THE CRITICAL DRINKER and he's reviewed Season One.

He's a Scottish guy who pretends to be a bit drunk when he reviews things.


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 Post subject: Re: Picard
PostPosted: Sun Mar 29, 2020 11:04 
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Yeah he is mostly on the money. I can accept (and actually expect!) that the character Picard has changed over time, but yeah he is basically unrecognisable.

I don't hate Discovery completely, it has had some great elements, but on the whole it's clearly a jumbled mess, and Picard just repeats a lot of the same mistakes and doubles down on them.

There is a contingent of idiots in the fanbase that object to Star Trek "going woke", which is clearly just people who didn't understand any Trek over the years, and that's not why modern trek is a shadow of it's former self. That video does dip a little in that direction, and I wanna be clear that Trek has always had progressive ideals and made consistent, if sometimes clumsy, attempts to advance diversity on TV, and put thought into representation. That's not the problem with Picard or Discovery.

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Not 100% a disaster, but probably like 90% a disaster. For me, at least.


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 Post subject: Re: Picard
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More intimate?

It was another Galaxy-destroying level threat, full of explosions, shootouts, sword fights, and people shouting "Fuck".

It was the least intimate version of Star Trek possible.

Edit: Wouldn't be so bad but the showrunner literally outlined what would have been an actual intimate version of of the show but said that people weren't "ready for it"

https://twitter.com/adambvary/status/12 ... 9085768704




That, or at least some kind of middle ground between that and what we actually got would have been far more interesting.



Yes, as it basically JL in Space ship, with 5 others. There was no big space battle, other than a mexican stand off. I might have to re-watch it if i missed the battle..

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 Post subject: Re: Picard
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Hearthly wrote:
Full disclosure, I haven't watched a single episode of Picard, but I do like THE CRITICAL DRINKER and he's reviewed Season One.

He's a Scottish guy who pretends to be a bit drunk when he reviews things.



Got bored after 1 min....

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 Post subject: Re: Picard
PostPosted: Mon Mar 30, 2020 9:37 
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 Post subject: Re: Picard
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Well done!


I don't get youtube reviews. i did try, but his fake drunkenness was annoying

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Well done!


I don't get youtube reviews. i did try, but his fake drunkenness was annoying


I'm certainly on the edge of my seat waiting for more exciting tales of "Things Kovacs Didn't Do".


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 Post subject: Re: Picard
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Bamba wrote:
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Well done!


I don't get youtube reviews. i did try, but his fake drunkenness was annoying


I'm certainly on the edge of my seat waiting for more exciting tales of "Things Kovacs Didn't Do".


Do you want it as a blog, vlog, or youtube?

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 Post subject: Re: Picard
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KovacsC wrote:
Bamba wrote:
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Well done!


I don't get youtube reviews. i did try, but his fake drunkenness was annoying


I'm certainly on the edge of my seat waiting for more exciting tales of "Things Kovacs Didn't Do".


Do you want it as a blog, vlog, or youtube?


I expect it as a YouTube video showing you typing it into Notepad. Nothing else will do.


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 Post subject: Re: Picard
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Well done!


I don't get youtube reviews. i did try, but his fake drunkenness was annoying


So you don't like YouTube reviews, and you found his pretending to be drunk annoying, which I explicitly referenced in my post introducing the video.

I'm not sure I can give you much more help than that to make an informed decision, man.

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 Post subject: Re: Picard
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Hearthly wrote:
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Hearthly wrote:
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I don't get youtube reviews. i did try, but his fake drunkenness was annoying


So you don't like YouTube reviews, and you found his pretending to be drunk annoying, which I explicitly referenced in my post introducing the video.

I'm not sure I can give you much more help than that to make an informed decision, man.


I don't need an informed decision, i watched the program :)

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 Post subject: Re: Picard
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KovacsC wrote:
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I don't get youtube reviews. i did try, but his fake drunkenness was annoying


So you don't like YouTube reviews, and you found his pretending to be drunk annoying, which I explicitly referenced in my post introducing the video.

I'm not sure I can give you much more help than that to make an informed decision, man.


I don't need an informed decision, i watched the program :)


He means an informed decision as to whether to watch the YouTube video or not.


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 Post subject: Re: Picard
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Glad you explained..

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I'm not sure I can give you much more help than that to make an informed decision, man.

Well, you could watch the show.

For all you know the not-drunk man was talking bobbins.

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"I haven't watched it but here's a long YouTube video anyway" is peak fuckin' Hearthly.


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 Post subject: Re: Picard
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I've not watched the show or the video!

Do I win a prize?

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My Netflix watch list and Amazon play watch list are already decidedly into the realms of 'never going to fucking happen', so there's no point adding anything else to them. They operate on a 'one out, one in' basis now.

Plus RedLetterMedia and Angry Joe aren't big fans of Picard either, between them and The Critical Drinker, I usually get a pretty good idea if I'll like something or not.

(TBH I sometimes find reviews more interesting than the actual content, for example, the new Star Wars Trilogy which I haven't seen a single one of, but know everything that happens in all three of them.)

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14 minutes.

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 Post subject: Re: Picard
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Hearthly wrote:
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"I haven't watched it but here's a long YouTube video anyway" is peak fuckin' Hearthly.

14 minutes.

Yes, that's long.


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"I haven't watched it but here's a long YouTube video anyway" is peak fuckin' Hearthly.


14 minutes.


it is 1/4 of an episode...

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KovacsC wrote:
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"I haven't watched it but here's a long YouTube video anyway" is peak fuckin' Hearthly.


14 minutes.


it is 1/4 of an episode...


Nearly a third really, if we're counting.


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Bamba wrote:
KovacsC wrote:
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"I haven't watched it but here's a long YouTube video anyway" is peak fuckin' Hearthly.


14 minutes.


it is 1/4 of an episode...


Nearly a third really, if we're counting.


Even better... :)

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For me, I feel the series sagged quite heavily just after halfway but the the last two or three episodes picked up, and I was quite excited by it again. Overall I'm glad I stuck with it, even if the 'tone' or the 'feel' was quite variable.

Watching a show like this makes me realise how much I enjoyed Star Trek (TNG) but also aware of how hokey a lot of it was - the good was really good the the bad was pretty damn bad.

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