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Author: | Kern [ Mon Nov 11, 2019 13:49 ] |
Post subject: | Re: General Election 2019 |
The Nigel Farage Publicity Machine Brexit Party won't be standing in existing Tory seats. Complicates things somewhat, but might still help prevent a majority if they split the vote in key Tory targets. I wonder if Mr Johnson has dangled a knighthood or a peerage in front of Nigel Farage. |
Author: | Dr Zoidberg [ Mon Nov 11, 2019 19:03 ] |
Post subject: | Re: General Election 2019 |
Kern wrote: The Nigel Farage Publicity Machine Brexit Party won't be standing in existing Tory seats. Complicates things somewhat, but might still help prevent a majority if they split the vote in key Tory targets. I wonder if Mr Johnson has dangled a knighthood or a peerage in front of Nigel Farage. Contesting every seat would definitely have helped the “anyone but Boris” camp. This’ll just make it a lot harder for other parties to take seats off the Conservatives. |
Author: | zaphod79 [ Fri Nov 15, 2019 12:06 ] |
Post subject: | Re: General Election 2019 |
Cras wrote: zaphod79 wrote: And of course the person who deserves to be the leader of the country Except the guy who stood for election as Lord Buckethead lost control of the Twitter account to somebody who owns the original scifi character. That account hasn't been him for over a year. He's back as Count Binface https://twitter.com/CountBinface https://twitter.com/CountBinface/status ... 1147523078
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Author: | Kern [ Mon Nov 18, 2019 9:52 ] |
Post subject: | Re: General Election 2019 |
I am really struggling to summon up any enthusiasm for this election and its probable aftermath. I really hope that all the parties running candidates here up their game and send canvassers around because I wouldn't want my box of questions to go to waste. I've only had one leaflet so far, from the Lib Dem. |
Author: | Kern [ Thu Nov 21, 2019 8:47 ] |
Post subject: | Re: General Election 2019 |
Whilst eating breakfsat I made the mistake of watching this C4 interview with Michael Gove. I'm now genuinely angry at the way he avoids the reporter's questions and instead repeatedly attacks him. This kind of Trumpist shoot-the-messenger thing is really poisoning discourse. And Gove knows exactly what he's doing. I don't think I can just avoid it all, even though that'd probably be good for me. Would someone lend me some cash so I can go and spend the next month in the Antartic communing with penguins rather than endure another few weeks of this? |
Author: | markg [ Thu Nov 21, 2019 8:54 ] |
Post subject: | Re: General Election 2019 |
The Tories are an absolute fucking disgrace. Say what you want about Corbyn, that he's naive, unelectable, blah de fucking blah, but what he isn't doing is using Putin's playbook for handling the media/public. It's got to the point now where so much lying has been normalised by these shitcunts that nothing can blow up in their face. When I saw Raab actually smirking his way through questioning the other morning over the CCHQ twitter thing I felt actual rage. They have completely fucked everything. |
Author: | MaliA [ Thu Nov 21, 2019 8:55 ] |
Post subject: | Re: General Election 2019 |
Fun fact! Bear in Greek is Arktos so you get polar bears in the artic but not in the Antarctic (no bears)! Now you will never forget! |
Author: | Kern [ Thu Nov 21, 2019 9:08 ] |
Post subject: | Re: General Election 2019 |
MaliA wrote: Fun fact! Bear in Greek is Arktos so you get polar bears in the artic but not in the Antarctic (no bears)! Now you will never forget! Giphy "this changes everything": https://media1.giphy.com/media/kc6WsoNgMldDy82RFv/giphy-loop.mp4 |
Author: | Nik [ Thu Nov 21, 2019 9:23 ] |
Post subject: | Re: General Election 2019 |
Kern wrote: I don't think I can just avoid it all, even though that'd probably be good for me. Would someone lend me some cash so I can go and spend the next month in the Antartic communing with penguins rather than endure another few weeks of this? Can I join you? Although that bastard Johnson would probably turn up there, eventually. The fucker has sullied my hometown now: Attachment: 70378644_2533612276688082_3606367769391529984_n.jpg
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Author: | MaliA [ Thu Nov 21, 2019 9:38 ] |
Post subject: | Re: General Election 2019 |
Kern wrote: MaliA wrote: Fun fact! Bear in Greek is Arktos so you get polar bears in the artic but not in the Antarctic (no bears)! Now you will never forget! Giphy "this changes everything": https://media3.giphy.com/media/l2ZDTFGSvT7Lts7HG/giphy-loop.mp4 Socrates himself said "here ant any artkos there, bruv" |
Author: | Doctor Glyndwr [ Thu Nov 21, 2019 10:33 ] |
Post subject: | Re: General Election 2019 |
markg wrote: Say what you want about Corbyn, that he's naive, unelectable, blah de fucking blah, but what he isn't doing is using Putin's playbook for handling the media/public. Except for the antisemitism.
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Author: | Squirt [ Thu Nov 21, 2019 10:38 ] |
Post subject: | Re: General Election 2019 |
MaliA wrote: Fun fact! Bear in Greek is Arktos so you get polar bears in the artic but not in the Antarctic (no bears)! Now you will never forget! BUT! Northern european names for bear - e.g. "bear", "björn", "bär" - are thought to originate from the words for either "brown" or "wild animal". This is assumed to be an ancient tabboo on actually saying the name of the creature, and therefore summoning it. "Bear" is thus thought to be the earliest known euphemism. |
Author: | Kern [ Thu Nov 21, 2019 10:42 ] |
Post subject: | Re: General Election 2019 |
Squirt wrote: This is assumed to be an ancient tabboo on actually saying the name of the creature, and therefore summoning it. .
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Author: | markg [ Thu Nov 21, 2019 10:50 ] |
Post subject: | Re: General Election 2019 |
Doctor Glyndwr wrote: markg wrote: Say what you want about Corbyn, that he's naive, unelectable, blah de fucking blah, but what he isn't doing is using Putin's playbook for handling the media/public. Except for the antisemitism. |
Author: | Findus Fop [ Thu Nov 21, 2019 10:58 ] |
Post subject: | Re: General Election 2019 |
markg wrote: Doctor Glyndwr wrote: markg wrote: Say what you want about Corbyn, that he's naive, unelectable, blah de fucking blah, but what he isn't doing is using Putin's playbook for handling the media/public. Except for the antisemitism.I feel the same. He's definitely handled the issues of antisemitism within his party very badly, but I feel accusations levelled at him personally are generally conflating support for Palestine with antisemitism. Like you say, it's a powerful stick to beat him with, but I'm not convinced it has any truthful merit. This is a worthwhile read |
Author: | Cras [ Thu Nov 21, 2019 10:59 ] |
Post subject: | Re: General Election 2019 |
I feel a lot of it is Milne's electioneering advice. Must remember not to alienate those racists! |
Author: | GazChap [ Fri Nov 22, 2019 10:30 ] |
Post subject: | Re: General Election 2019 |
Squirt wrote: MaliA wrote: Fun fact! Bear in Greek is Arktos so you get polar bears in the artic but not in the Antarctic (no bears)! Now you will never forget! BUT! Northern european names for bear - e.g. "bear", "björn", "bär" - are thought to originate from the words for either "brown" or "wild animal". This is assumed to be an ancient tabboo on actually saying the name of the creature, and therefore summoning it. "Bear" is thus thought to be the earliest known euphemism. And, if the fact I read recently is correct, this means that there is no written record of what that original name was, i.e. what it was taboo to say. |
Author: | DavPaz [ Fri Nov 22, 2019 10:31 ] |
Post subject: | Re: General Election 2019 |
Murder Floof |
Author: | krazywookie [ Fri Nov 22, 2019 11:28 ] |
Post subject: | Re: General Election 2019 |
First season of The Terror is loosely about this. Good show, watch it. |
Author: | Grim... [ Fri Nov 22, 2019 15:37 ] |
Post subject: | Re: General Election 2019 |
krazywookie wrote: First season of The Terror is loosely about this. Good show, watch it. |
Author: | Kern [ Fri Nov 22, 2019 17:34 ] |
Post subject: | Re: General Election 2019 and Live Bear Chat |
Hive mind! In the event that a canvasser comes a-knocking, what's the best single question to ask? |
Author: | DavPaz [ Fri Nov 22, 2019 17:56 ] |
Post subject: | Re: General Election 2019 and Live Bear Chat |
Kern wrote: Hive mind! In the event that a canvasser comes a-knocking, what's the best single question to ask? "How did you find me?" |
Author: | Kern [ Fri Nov 22, 2019 17:57 ] |
Post subject: | Re: General Election 2019 and Live Bear Chat |
Are pizzlies a new species or just freaks? |
Author: | Kern [ Fri Nov 22, 2019 17:58 ] |
Post subject: | Re: General Election 2019 and Live Bear Chat |
DavPaz wrote: Kern wrote: Hive mind! In the event that a canvasser comes a-knocking, what's the best single question to ask? "How did you find me?" Damn that electoral roll! |
Author: | devilman [ Fri Nov 22, 2019 18:30 ] |
Post subject: | Re: General Election 2019 and Live Bear Chat |
Kern wrote: Hive mind! In the event that a canvasser comes a-knocking, what's the best single question to ask? Considering the usual people knocking on my door of an evening, I'd ask "Where's my pizza?" |
Author: | Grim... [ Fri Nov 22, 2019 18:45 ] |
Post subject: | Re: General Election 2019 and Live Bear Chat |
"Would you rather change gender every time you sneeze, or not know the difference between a baby and a muffin?" |
Author: | Warhead [ Fri Nov 22, 2019 18:49 ] |
Post subject: | Re: General Election 2019 and Live Bear Chat |
As if doctoring Kier Starmer’s interview recording wasn’t bad enough, the Tories have created https://www.labourmanifesto.co.uk/ to attack Labour. I’m sure they think that’s very clever. It isn’t. |
Author: | Findus Fop [ Fri Nov 22, 2019 19:25 ] |
Post subject: | Re: General Election 2019 and Live Bear Chat |
Kern wrote: Hive mind! In the event that a canvasser comes a-knocking, what's the best single question to ask? Would you rather have baked potatoes for eyes or a big cauliflower for a mouth? |
Author: | Curiosity [ Fri Nov 22, 2019 20:06 ] |
Post subject: | Re: General Election 2019 and Live Bear Chat |
Grim... wrote: "Would you rather change gender every time you sneeze, or not know the difference between a baby and a muffin?" The former. That could be awesome! |
Author: | Cras [ Fri Nov 22, 2019 20:27 ] |
Post subject: | Re: General Election 2019 and Live Bear Chat |
Wait do I think muffins are babies or babies are muffins |
Author: | DavPaz [ Fri Nov 22, 2019 20:35 ] |
Post subject: | Re: General Election 2019 and Live Bear Chat |
Cras wrote: Wait do I think muffins are babies or babies are muffins That's the point. You don't know |
Author: | Cras [ Fri Nov 22, 2019 21:16 ] |
Post subject: | Re: General Election 2019 and Live Bear Chat |
Well I must think they're something. Or is each one different? I might choose that one to find out. |
Author: | DavPaz [ Fri Nov 22, 2019 21:52 ] |
Post subject: | Re: General Election 2019 and Live Bear Chat |
It's like being colourblind |
Author: | BikNorton [ Fri Nov 22, 2019 23:20 ] |
Post subject: | Re: General Election 2019 and Live Bear Chat |
Curiosity wrote: Grim... wrote: "Would you rather change gender every time you sneeze, or not know the difference between a baby and a muffin?" The former. That could be awesome! You've obviously never had a sneezing fit like the 10 minute one I had earlier. |
Author: | Curiosity [ Fri Nov 22, 2019 23:34 ] |
Post subject: | Re: General Election 2019 and Live Bear Chat |
BikNorton wrote: Curiosity wrote: Grim... wrote: "Would you rather change gender every time you sneeze, or not know the difference between a baby and a muffin?" The former. That could be awesome! You've obviously never had a sneezing fit like the 10 minute one I had earlier. I have had hayfever fits that lasted hours, but as long as the transition was painless then what’s not to love? |
Author: | DavPaz [ Sat Nov 23, 2019 0:12 ] |
Post subject: | Re: General Election 2019 and Live Bear Chat |
Suck in, pop out. Bless you. |
Author: | Kern [ Wed Nov 27, 2019 10:05 ] |
Post subject: | Re: General Election 2019 and Live Bear Chat |
I've not watched any of the interviews yet. Did Mr Corbyn have a better time than Prince Andrew? |
Author: | MaliA [ Wed Nov 27, 2019 14:09 ] |
Post subject: | Re: General Election 2019 and Live Bear Chat |
https://www.theguardian.com/society/201 ... p-for-sale Oh |
Author: | Warhead [ Wed Nov 27, 2019 14:33 ] |
Post subject: | Re: General Election 2019 and Live Bear Chat |
Kern wrote: Hive mind! In the event that a canvasser comes a-knocking, what's the best single question to ask? Will a boy ever be born who can swim faster than a shark? |
Author: | Pundabaya [ Wed Nov 27, 2019 14:38 ] |
Post subject: | Re: General Election 2019 and Live Bear Chat |
Yes, Johnny Jetski-for-legs. |
Author: | Kern [ Wed Nov 27, 2019 14:47 ] |
Post subject: | Re: General Election 2019 and Live Bear Chat |
MaliA wrote: https://www.theguardian.com/society/2019/nov/27/jeremy-corbyn-reveals-dossier-proving-nhs-up-for-sale Oh This is a pretty big coup for Labour. They need to keep connecting the NHS to Mr Trump in people's minds for it to be effective. Handily for them, our favourite sitting US president is dropping by next week. |
Author: | zaphod79 [ Wed Nov 27, 2019 14:57 ] |
Post subject: | Re: General Election 2019 and Live Bear Chat |
https://twitter.com/matt_dathan/status/ ... 1155984384
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Author: | Warhead [ Wed Nov 27, 2019 15:01 ] |
Post subject: | Re: General Election 2019 and Live Bear Chat |
I'm thinking of preparing some prompt sheets to keep by the door in case any canvassers call. The Tory one will probably consist of a rant about all manner of shit they're responsible for, e.g. everything fucked up by 'austerity' which some economist or other recently said was entirely unnecessary, the ability of the Blonde Buffoon to grin like an idiot all the time, while lying through his teeth, their childish tactics during their current campaign (the Kier Starker interview doctoring, their fact checking website, their labour manifesto web site), their total contempt for most of the electorate, the fact that the best they could do for a leader was the said Blonde Buffoon, the ridiculous strategy of going back to the EU to renogiate a deal again and again like a petulant toddler that's not getting its own way, long after it became clear that the EU are just not going change their position, etc, etc. |
Author: | Kern [ Wed Nov 27, 2019 15:13 ] |
Post subject: | Re: General Election 2019 and Live Bear Chat |
Warhead wrote: the ridiculous strategy of going back to the EU to renogiate a deal again and again like a petulant toddler that's not getting its own way, long after it became clear that the EU are just not going change their position, etc, etc. Hey, he got them to remove the hated backstop - only to be activated if no other solution could be found - by agreeing to a border in the Irish Sea! Doing something "no PM could ever agree to", as one critic once described it. |
Author: | Findus Fop [ Wed Nov 27, 2019 15:58 ] |
Post subject: | Re: General Election 2019 and Live Bear Chat |
Malcolm Gladwell vs Barry Gardiner on bartering over the NHS. The latter is much more eloquent than I expected, and the former more condescending than I had imagined. That said, this clip might well follow 5 minutes of Gardiner shouting down Gladwell, as it is with political rapport de jour, so Gladders might be feeling all huffy and flustered, like. |
Author: | Warhead [ Thu Nov 28, 2019 13:37 ] |
Post subject: | Re: General Election 2019 and Live Bear Chat |
FFS, Jeremy, don't say that that document proves the NHS is up for sasle to US companies when it doesn't. |
Author: | Kern [ Fri Nov 29, 2019 10:37 ] |
Post subject: | Re: General Election 2019 and Live Bear Chat |
Alan Renwick of the Constitution Unit at that godless place on Gower Street has written a few ideas on Twitter about possible solutions to the Conservatives' current un-conservative attack on institutions. It starts here: https://twitter.com/alanjrenwick/status ... 0431991808
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Author: | Nik [ Fri Nov 29, 2019 13:15 ] |
Post subject: | Re: General Election 2019 and Live Bear Chat |
Won't happen, but lovely idea: https://infacts.org/petitions/bring-down-johnson/ |
Author: | Kern [ Fri Nov 29, 2019 16:57 ] |
Post subject: | Re: General Election 2019 and Live Bear Chat |
It'd be brilliant if he does lose his seat. Not only for the schadenfreude, but because people might start listening to us constitutional nerds saying that it doesn't technically affect his position as prime minister. |
Author: | Nik [ Fri Nov 29, 2019 17:32 ] |
Post subject: | Re: General Election 2019 and Live Bear Chat |
I was wondering about that, but hadn't got around to looking it up - thanks for saving me the bother. |
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