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General Election 2019
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Author:  Kern [ Fri Dec 13, 2019 0:46 ]
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Let's be generous. To all those people who decided to vote Tory and/or Leave. I hope you're happy. I hope the next five years brings you, your area, and the country all the countless riches you believe you will get from them. I hope you prove me wrong.

Author:  Warhead [ Fri Dec 13, 2019 0:58 ]
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Kern wrote:
Let's be generous. To all those people who decided to vote Tory and/or Leave. I hope you're happy. I hope the next five years brings you, your area, and the country all the countless riches you believe you will get from them. I hope you prove me wrong.

:this:

Author:  Nik [ Fri Dec 13, 2019 0:59 ]
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I'd witter on about insulin at this point, but no one actually gives a shit, do they?

Author:  MaliA [ Fri Dec 13, 2019 1:14 ]
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Kern wrote:
I always thought it was HOW-ton but turns out it's HOR-ton.


I'll get Davpaz to take you to Meols

Author:  MaliA [ Fri Dec 13, 2019 1:34 ]
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MaliA wrote:
And yet, Labour are poised to do rubbishly, again, despite having policies that are, they claim, pretty popular. Seems to make more sense to have to changed the mind of one person than the views of several million. It should have been done ages back. Still, he will get his Brexit, and retire after a short period after a narrative has been built and it can appear to be on his terms. The stupid, stupid, twat


Well, fuck, it was brexit all along.

Author:  Kern [ Fri Dec 13, 2019 1:40 ]
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Was about to go bed but have decided to have one last beer.

Author:  devilman [ Fri Dec 13, 2019 1:42 ]
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MaliA wrote:
MaliA wrote:
And yet, Labour are poised to do rubbishly, again, despite having policies that are, they claim, pretty popular. Seems to make more sense to have to changed the mind of one person than the views of several million. It should have been done ages back. Still, he will get his Brexit, and retire after a short period after a narrative has been built and it can appear to be on his terms. The stupid, stupid, twat


Well, fuck, it was brexit all along.


Judging by the local comments, I'm surrounded by idiots who have fallen for the 'Get Brexit Done' cobblers and have booted out the Labour candidates purely for 'going against the will of the people'. I'm clinging to the hope that one day, Boris' chlorinated chickens come home to roost when it turns out he can't get Brexit done at all.

Author:  devilman [ Fri Dec 13, 2019 1:43 ]
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Kern wrote:
Was about to go bed but have decided to have one last beer.


I don't really drink during the week, but I'm on the wine and masochistically playing that old Brexit bus game. Simpler times.

Author:  devilman [ Fri Dec 13, 2019 1:54 ]
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Nik wrote:
I'd witter on about insulin at this point, but no one actually gives a shit, do they?


A colleague and I were discussing his insulin requirements earlier and how much it would cost him under a US-style model. And our boss was apparently hoping to vote for a Brexit Party candidate but one wasn't standing in his area. I suspect there might be some tongue-biting on our team call in the morning.

Author:  Kern [ Fri Dec 13, 2019 2:04 ]
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To give an idea of how bad this is for me, I might not even buy a paper on Saturday for a results poster to put up on the wall of my mancave.

Author:  Nik [ Fri Dec 13, 2019 2:09 ]
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devilman wrote:
Nik wrote:
I'd witter on about insulin at this point, but no one actually gives a shit, do they?


A colleague and I were discussing his insulin requirements earlier and how much it would cost him under a US-style model. And our boss was apparently hoping to vote for a Brexit Party candidate but one wasn't standing in his area. I suspect there might be some tongue-biting on our team call in the morning.


If there's no trade deal with the EU by the end of 2020, insulin stocks may run out before the tories have a chance to make the NHS PAYG.

(I know I take everything too personally, but the expected result of this election feels like a bit of a kick in the teeth... like the majority of the population feel I shouldn't be afforded the luxury of wanting to stay alive long enough to see my daughter grow up.)

Author:  Kern [ Fri Dec 13, 2019 2:16 ]
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Tweet of the night:

https://twitter.com/davidallengreen/sta ... 3516686336



Author:  Malc [ Fri Dec 13, 2019 2:26 ]
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Really not liking this

Author:  Kern [ Fri Dec 13, 2019 2:46 ]
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Off to bed. This has been a dreadful evening, and I'm genuinely scared for the future. But we need to find comfort where we can, and once we get over the shock of it all we can start to find a way out.

But still. Fuck this. Fuck Johnson. Fuck Cummings. Fuck lying. Fuck racism. Fuck xenophobia. Fuck misogyny. Fuck those who enable it. We can do so much better.

Good night everyone. This is still the best group of people on the Internet.

Giphy "vengeful bear":
https://media2.giphy.com/media/JKNn9A98JBVlu/giphy-loop.mp4

Author:  Malc [ Fri Dec 13, 2019 2:53 ]
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Labour win Putney

Author:  Malc [ Fri Dec 13, 2019 4:30 ]
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Corbyn to step down as leader

Author:  Nik [ Fri Dec 13, 2019 4:35 ]
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Eventually.

Author:  Malc [ Fri Dec 13, 2019 4:45 ]
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Jo Swinson has lost her seat to the SNP!

Author:  Malc [ Fri Dec 13, 2019 4:46 ]
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Oh and Nigel Dodds lost his seat too (DUP leader in Westminster)

Author:  DavPaz [ Fri Dec 13, 2019 7:30 ]
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Morning all! How did the election go?

Oh.

Fuck.

Author:  DBSnappa [ Fri Dec 13, 2019 7:44 ]
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WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK JUST HAPPENED?

Author:  MrChris [ Fri Dec 13, 2019 8:11 ]
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Well that was hardly unexpected.

Well done Corbyn! you can console yourself that while your vote was small it was at least ideologically pure.

Author:  Kern [ Fri Dec 13, 2019 8:33 ]
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I just woke up.

I see Mr Johnson is talking about leading "The People's Government". Not creepy at all.

Author:  Hearthly [ Fri Dec 13, 2019 8:39 ]
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Well I'm glad I made the informed decision to get moderately drunk and play videogames last night, instead of watching the election coverage.

And it's the works Christmas do today so I can start drinking again at noon.

Other than that, what a fucking shitshow.

My brother actually predicted this, he voted Labour under duress but he's from the 'Labour Heartlands' and the 'Red Wall' that got decimated last night, and he said the Tories were going to smash it, and that people just weren't seeing how unpopular Corbyn and the current Labour party were among their traditional base.

He also said the 'Islamaphobia' claim worked in the Tories favour as mainstream anti-Islam sentiment is very strong, so for many people that was seen as a positive.

Author:  Findus Fop [ Fri Dec 13, 2019 8:43 ]
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On train to work, still very drunk.

Was expecting more Mali Bear.

Author:  miki [ Fri Dec 13, 2019 8:53 ]
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I'm so very sorry guys

Nik I really don't think people are so bad that they don't think you should live a long and happy life
I think they are so stupid that they still don't know/understand/believe that there is a risk to you and others because they still think Brexit is easy and beneficial or at least not detrimental

Author:  Pundabaya [ Fri Dec 13, 2019 9:55 ]
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Welp, maintained my 0.000 batting average on voting.

Author:  NervousPete [ Fri Dec 13, 2019 10:16 ]
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Cardiff North Labour Hold.

That's about the only positive in a complete shit-show. I mean, I was pessimistic, but not THIS pessimistic.

Author:  markg [ Fri Dec 13, 2019 10:26 ]
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Yeah, Labour hold here too. Although I'm not even sure that's a reason to be cheerful. It just means that a some deprived areas will end up getting an even smaller slice of the pie by having an opposition MP.

Author:  Kern [ Fri Dec 13, 2019 10:38 ]
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I feel hollowed out this morning, as if my daemon's been cut. Not despair, just empty. But it's healthy to mourn and work it through. Going to focus on the small things for now. Good people (eg Angela Eagle; Keir Starmer; Caroline Lucas) are still in the Commons, albeit in smaller numbers than before. I've tried to do some good today by sending some cash to a favoured charity. Out with friends tonight and at the weekend. Get refreshed and in time start to regroup.And there's still this place.

Giphy "sad bear":
https://media3.giphy.com/media/WzTTmKmXn4eT6/giphy-loop.mp4

Author:  Findus Fop [ Fri Dec 13, 2019 10:43 ]
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Amen.

Also, that's some good work from Giphy, there. Good Giphy.

Author:  Pundabaya [ Fri Dec 13, 2019 10:46 ]
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Only bright side to today, I put random metal playlist on Spotify to be soothed by some agressive music and it turns out I really, really like Amon Amarth.

Author:  Jem [ Fri Dec 13, 2019 10:53 ]
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Definitely should have stuck with cynicism and despair.

Author:  Nik [ Fri Dec 13, 2019 14:01 ]
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miki wrote:
I'm so very sorry guys

Nik I really don't think people are so bad that they don't think you should live a long and happy life
I think they are so stupid that they still don't know/understand/believe that there is a risk to you and others because they still think Brexit is easy and beneficial or at least not detrimental

You're probably right, but that doesn't stop me feeling (subconsciously) hurt and (consciously) scared.

(I know it's not all about me, sorry. Worried for the whole country, frankly.)

Author:  Curiosity [ Fri Dec 13, 2019 14:42 ]
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My constituency (Greenwich) still has a big Labour majority, but that’s about the only crumb of comfort I can take.

Maybe now with a large majority Johnson will not be in thrall to the ERG and will move towards the softer policies he clams that he believes in, but I’m not exactly counting on it.

We can but hope that the Labour Party makes itself more electable, and keeps repeating those Tory election promises to make sure they are held to account.

Let’s get those 40 hospitals, 50,000 extra nurses, and strong NHS if nothing else.

Author:  JohnCoffey [ Fri Dec 13, 2019 16:39 ]
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Pundabaya wrote:
Welp, maintained my 0.000 batting average on voting.


Me too. I really shouldn't have fucking bothered with all of that aggro and paper waste setting up a postal vote.

That said like the first time I ever voted I can say hand on heart that if the country gets destroyed at least I didn't vote for it.

I wish Corbyn wasn't such a prized cunt. It made the decision far too hard.

Still I'd rather slice off my bollocks and eat them than vote Tory.

Author:  DavPaz [ Fri Dec 13, 2019 16:44 ]
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Please don't stop voting. Apathy feeds straight into the hands of the establishment.

Author:  JohnCoffey [ Fri Dec 13, 2019 16:47 ]
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DavPaz wrote:
Please don't stop voting. Apathy feeds straight into the hands of the establishment.


I won't now, no.

Hopefully Labour will have a good shake up and get themselves together.

Author:  Nik [ Fri Dec 13, 2019 16:48 ]
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JohnCoffey wrote:
DavPaz wrote:
Please don't stop voting. Apathy feeds straight into the hands of the establishment.


I won't now, no.

Hopefully Labour will have a good shake up and get themselves together.

:this:

Author:  Pundabaya [ Fri Dec 13, 2019 18:12 ]
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If Boris gets his way, I won't be able to vote, so there's that.

Author:  MrChris [ Fri Dec 13, 2019 19:12 ]
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You’re so wrong about everything, no one wants you to vote.

Author:  Pundabaya [ Fri Dec 13, 2019 19:54 ]
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That means I'm right, and everyone wants me to vote, right?

It is the WrongaLord himself, Mr Chris saying it after all.

Author:  MrChris [ Fri Dec 13, 2019 19:56 ]
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It does get a bit Escher doesn’t it?

Author:  MaliA [ Fri Jun 19, 2020 7:03 ]
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MaliA wrote:
Corbyn's fucked it.


Even Labour say he fucked it

Quote:
The report says research suggests an “intense” dislike of Corbyn was a key factor among voters who switched from Labour to the Tories; they raised issues such as antisemitism, perceived support for terrorism, and unaffordable policies.

The views of one 52-year-old woman who voted Labour in 2017 are summarised in the report as: “Frightened at the possibility of a Marxist government. Disgusted at Corbyn being a terrorist sympathiser. Most disturbed about plan to nationalise BT as I fear it would allow a Labour government to spy on internet users.”

Author:  Dr Zoidberg [ Fri Jun 19, 2020 7:18 ]
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Most of those views are based on what was incorrectly reported by the press, but then it was Labour’s job to present a candidate that was electable. That meant someone who was in a better starting position, and who could more easily be defended against such claims.

Author:  GazChap [ Thu Jun 25, 2020 12:44 ]
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MaliA wrote:
Most disturbed about plan to nationalise BT as I fear it would allow a Labour government to spy on internet users.”

I'd love to see the Venn diagram of these people and the "if you've got nothing to hide, you've got nothing to fear" camp that weren't bothered about the actual Internet spying stuff the Tories tried to get through.

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