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 Post subject: Re: Sony PlayStation 5 (PS5)
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 Post subject: Re: Sony PlayStation 5 (PS5)
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Vita means life.

Sadly it was rather inaccurate given how quickly support for it died.

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 Post subject: Re: Sony PlayStation 5 (PS5)
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When the first amazing PS5 VR game comes out I'll fold like a wet paper towel.


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 Post subject: Re: Sony PlayStation 5 (PS5)
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LewieP wrote:
Vita means life.

Sadly it was rather inaccurate given how quickly support for it died.



Why does everything sound like cold play?

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 Post subject: Re: Sony PlayStation 5 (PS5)
PostPosted: Thu Apr 18, 2019 21:54 
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Is this the time where Product 'Yr becomes useful?

Also, referring back all the way to the start where SSD storage reduced Spidey's 15s epic to a premature 0.8s, how many other games were installed and had been started? What I mean is, is it an SSHD or a genuinely decent SSD? And if it's an SSD, is this a preview, a review, or a whatever a review is called now we call preview models review models?


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 Post subject: Re: Sony PlayStation 5 (PS5)
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It’s a genuine SSD, Sony were clear about that. It’s neither a preview or a review HTH HAND


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 Post subject: Re: Sony PlayStation 5 (PS5)
PostPosted: Thu Apr 18, 2019 22:16 
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Gosh.

Even if a 1TB SSD is cost effective by the time it comes out, games are going to be even more absolutely massive by then. Hopefully they'll let it at least operate in a 'gigantic cache of usb3 disk' mode.


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 Post subject: Re: Sony PlayStation 5 (PS5)
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Gosh.

Even if a 1TB SSD is cost effective by the time it comes out, games are going to be even more absolutely massive by then. Hopefully they'll let it at least operate in a 'gigantic cache of usb3 disk' mode.


A lot of the reason games are big these days is that many assets are uncompressed to speed up loads. With an SSD they might be able to do some smart compression stuff to get filesizes down a lot.


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 Post subject: Re: Sony PlayStation 5 (PS5)
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It's exactly the opposite of that isn't it,? Processing power outstripped disk speed so much that ever more tricksy compression was needed to reduce load times, as well as optimised layout on particularly slow media like cd/dvd/bd. It's why required-install became a thing too.


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 Post subject: Re: Sony PlayStation 5 (PS5)
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Even if a 1TB SSD is cost effective by the time it comes out

You can get 1 TB of SSD for £85 retail, right now, on Amazon. Albeit moderately crappy SATA stuff, but still. It’s not, to my mind, obviously nonsense that that could fit within the bill of materials for a premium console being released for Christmas 2020 and who’s hardware would likely be sold at about break even for the first part of its life.


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 Post subject: Re: Sony PlayStation 5 (PS5)
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1TB isn't big enough.

It's not unreasonable to think that equals ten games.

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 Post subject: Re: Sony PlayStation 5 (PS5)
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I agree, there's a reason both of my PS4s have 2TB. That might be where it starts, though -- for cost reasons. And also future upsell reasons. Then a PS5 Pro can have a nice storage boost as well as other upgrades.

I wonder if it'll be a standard port like M.2 or soldered. My cynical money is on soldered.


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 Post subject: Re: Sony PlayStation 5 (PS5)
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As they presumably have physical space an m2 would make sense wouldn't it?

Massive supplier volumes of commodity pieces allow better pricing than playing 'just me Sony over here' games on the flash markets and buying a decade's worth of chips in one go, cheaper to dump a standard port already supported by the chipset and in the libraries onto the ps5 PCB than custom track it all, and it gives them freedom to chop and change supplier at a purely purchasing level on a day to day basis if they want instead of worrying about respins (given a set of performance specs for suppliers to comply with).


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 Post subject: Re: Sony PlayStation 5 (PS5)
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Oh, and that £85 is presumably £40 to Sony which is about £35 more than a 1tb traditional disk. Maybe it'll only be a £20 premium next year? It's still huge on the BOM.


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 Post subject: Re: Sony PlayStation 5 (PS5)
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I dunno what to tell you, the article is unequivocal that it'll ship with an all-SSD drive.


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 Post subject: Re: Sony PlayStation 5 (PS5)
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Maybe Sony have seen the successes with graphics cards and phones being over a grand now.


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 Post subject: Re: Sony PlayStation 5 (PS5)
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Maybe Sony have seen the successes with graphics cards and phones being over a grand now.

I sincerely doubt it'll be more than £500. They don't want another PS3 on their hands.

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 Post subject: Re: Sony PlayStation 5 (PS5)
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My guess is that we're going to see something like a very powerful balanced £450 machine from Sony, and something like a £350 low end and £550 high end from Microsoft (with the main difference being a GPU aiming at 1080p on the low end, and 4k at the high end).


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 Post subject: PS5 confirmed
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https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2019 ... stmas-2020

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 Post subject: Re: PS5 confirmed
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Sony confirms PS5 is indeed called PS5 -


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Sony has confirmed a few details about the PlayStation 5 - including the fact it's called PlayStation 5.


So it’s not called PS5 at all. It’s called PlayStation 5, which is commonly abbreviated to PS5.


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 Post subject: Re: PS5 confirmed
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Yeah, but I’ll still buy it.


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 Post subject: Re: PS5 confirmed
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See, Microsoft? That's how you maintain a consistent brand identity.


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 Post subject: Re: PS5 confirmed
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See, Microsoft? That's how you maintain a consistent brand identity.


(imaginary)Microsoft: Yeah, well, wait till you see our new console, The Xbox One 2: 4K.

Everyone Else: *facepalm*


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 Post subject: Re: PS5 confirmed
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I reckon the next Xbox will be called Xbox.


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 Post subject: Re: PS5 confirmed
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I can’t see myself getting one this time around, for all sorts of reasons.

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 Post subject: Re: Sony PlayStation 5 (PS5)
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Thread merge mods!?


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 Post subject: Re: PS5 confirmed
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Maybe that worked?

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 Post subject: Re: Sony PlayStation 5 (PS5)
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Mr Chonks wrote:
Full backwards compatibility with PS4 will probably mean a day one purchase for me for the first time ever.


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I can’t see myself getting one this time around, for all sorts of reasons.


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 Post subject: Re: PS5 confirmed
PostPosted: Tue Oct 08, 2019 21:15 
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Pundabaya wrote:
DavPaz wrote:
See, Microsoft? That's how you maintain a consistent brand identity.


(imaginary)Microsoft: Yeah, well, wait till you see our new console, The Xbox One 2: 4K.

Everyone Else: *facepalm*


“Testing, one two. Testing, Xbox one two.”

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 Post subject: Re: PS5 confirmed
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Yep, really gone off the idea. For all sorts of reasons, as I mentioned before.

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