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 Post subject: Re: What was so good about the Amiga?
PostPosted: Sun Jun 23, 2019 22:18 
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That was the FECKING dice game. Stuck so long on that until I found the loaded dice.

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Early Bullfrog platformer Flood was ace.


I might be misremembering this but wasn’t the end when your main character emerges from the sewers you’ve spent the entire game and several hours and gets immediately run over a car deadid?


Shamefully I was not a good game person bakc then so didn't manage to get to the end.


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Objection! C64 version is the definitive version.


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 Post subject: Re: What was so good about the Amiga?
PostPosted: Sun Jun 23, 2019 23:07 
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Did you have to play with the mouse?


Yes that rings a bell, it was pretty awful.

And yet, in many ways we still felt like we playing THE GAMES OF THE FUTURE, and we persevered, and we mapped the whole thing out, and we finished it, long before Googling something (or indeed the internet) was a thing.

Nothing had ever looked like this before, and specifically in the case of the Amiga, nothing had ever sounded like this before. It really was the spiritual successor to the C64 and its incredible SID chip.

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It’s usually deserted. Whoop. Sunday party!!!

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 Post subject: Re: What was so good about the Amiga?
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Realted: nice to see this person still plugging away trying to offload the last issue of Amiga Action for such a reasonable price

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/The-One-Amig ... 3244878590

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 Post subject: Re: What was so good about the Amiga?
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Realted: nice to see this person still plugging away trying to offload the last issue of Amiga Action for such a reasonable price

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/The-One-Amig ... 3244878590

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 Post subject: Re: What was so good about the Amiga?
PostPosted: Mon Jun 24, 2019 6:55 
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The one even. Same shit. aboot £1000 per word.

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 Post subject: Re: What was so good about the Amiga?
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I'd argue the the one (maverick edition) was actually wosser than amiga action.

Although mainly due to the rumoured rant in the last issue of Amiga Action..


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 Post subject: Re: What was so good about the Amiga?
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I loved Flood, but was never good at it.

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 Post subject: Re: What was so good about the Amiga?
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Mop's post here https://www.beexcellenttoeachother.com/ ... 1#p1024661 already covers a lot of the issues with Amiga stuff

For the time it was great - you had great arcade conversions of games (so much better than the 16bit ones but now - why not just use MAME and get the real arcade machines)
Its early 3d worlds stuff was all good , but again all overtaken by other stuff or remade
Its RPG's - again so much better than what came before but then overtaken by everything since then.

At the time it really brought plug and play to a lot of people - it behaved a lot like a console - you turned it on - put a disk in and played - no config / settings / whatever else you just turned it on and it worked.

The other big thing here is emulating it is not trivial - and then other than the nostalgia factor its difficult to look at things and go 'thats the definitive version of this'

Off the top of my head - games I associate with the Amiga

Bubble Bobble
Elite
Defender of the crown
Lemmings
Wings
Dungeon Master
Zool
Ultima 7 ** edit - looks like I mean Ultima 6 instead :-)
Sensi
Syndicate
Cannon Fodder
Pinball Dreams / Fantasies
Monkey Island
Speedball
Worms
North and South
Xenon 2
Stunt Car Racer
Populous
IK+
Robocod

However virtually everything I've listed there I could play on something newer and with less hassles


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 Post subject: Re: What was so good about the Amiga?
PostPosted: Mon Jun 24, 2019 10:12 
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Wiki says these are the Amiga “exclusives”:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Categor ... only_games

There’s plenty on that list to keep someone busy for an evening.


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 Post subject: Re: What was so good about the Amiga?
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Ultima VII was never out on the Amiga, I don't think.

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 Post subject: Re: What was so good about the Amiga?
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Ultima VII was never out on the Amiga, I don't think.


It looks like your right - it must have been 6 i was thinking of (I played 3 & 4 on the Atari 800 and 5 on the C64)


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 Post subject: Re: What was so good about the Amiga?
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Played some Pinball Prelude last night. Does it only have one table, or am I forgetting something?


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 Post subject: Re: What was so good about the Amiga?
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There were three tables I think.

It's not the Amiga pinball game I'd choose to play though.

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 Post subject: Re: What was so good about the Amiga?
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I seem to remember there was quite a fuss about it at the time. Did it claim to have AGA quality graphics on a bog-standard Amiga, or something?


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After this thread, I ended up seeing if there were any decent online emulators and I ended up playing Pinball Dreams on this one for a bit. It's not perfect, but not bad.

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 Post subject: Re: What was so good about the Amiga?
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After this thread, I ended up seeing if there were any decent online emulators and I ended up playing Pinball Dreams on this one for a bit. It's not perfect, but not bad.

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 Post subject: Re: What was so good about the Amiga?
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(Cannon Fodder doesn't count as the engine has been ported to the Switch)

Say what, now?

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 Post subject: Re: What was so good about the Amiga?
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Isn't the obvious answer "nothing, compared to the SAM Coupe?"

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 Post subject: Re: What was so good about the Amiga?
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The Sam Coupe... A demonstration of the stupidity of brand loyalty.


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 Post subject: Re: What was so good about the Amiga?
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GazChap wrote:
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(Cannon Fodder doesn't count as the engine has been ported to the Switch)

Say what, now?


https://www.google.com/amp/s/kotaku.com/modders-bring-cannon-fodder-to-the-switch-1829018569/amp

Don't get excited unless you've modded your Switch though (if that's the right term to use).


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 Post subject: Re: What was so good about the Amiga?
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Isn't the obvious answer "nothing, compared to the SAM Coupe?"


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 Post subject: Re: What was so good about the Amiga?
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I loved the idea of a Sam Coupe. A Spectrum, but with more colours, how much better could it get?
Never used one though, I'm guessing it would be a disappointment.


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 Post subject: Re: What was so good about the Amiga?
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Having just bought a load of Amiga stuff on eBay (seems a bit cheap so we'll see if it actually arrives), it reminded me of another game I sank a fair bit of time into - Carrier Command. Can't remember ever completing it though

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 Post subject: Re: What was so good about the Amiga?
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Having just bought a load of Amiga stuff on eBay (seems a bit cheap so we'll see if it actually arrives), it reminded me of another game I sank a fair bit of time into - Carrier Command. Can't remember ever completing it though


It did actually arrive and now my house is full of oversized game boxes. Pinball Dreams and Batman don't seem to be compatible with my A1200, but I did get a couple of games to load at least.

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SWOS 96/97 is debatable because you can download and play an up-to-date PC version with online play these days. But for handheld it's pretty much a must..


Not enough swos love in this thread.. in the swos scene there is still a debate on the best version.. The update date version you refer to is actually an amiga emulator combined with online play.. (so in my opinion that's still an amiga game)

Since december last year swos 2020 arrived, which reverse engineered the amiga version, and added the amiga gameplay to the pc version (and increased the playing area to cover the big screen.. and did a lot more).. that one is not online yet,. but will be the definitive edition too..

Is Apidya mentioned btw reading the amigapower kickstart booklet .. it's an amazing and exclusive horizontal shmup with a very original theme (insects)

for me the amiga was great because of the creative world around it, amiga power, and the mix of games (which by genre were mostly worse that their competitors, but as a mix of pc and console games were unique at the time)

And today launches an amiga shmup on the switch https://www.nintendolife.com/news/2020/ ... _on_switch

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Owing to the posting of it's a skull on the music thing, I went and looked at a playthrough of Valhalla (In spoiler below) to see if it was as bad as it was made out to to be...

Based on that, the answer to the question "What was so good about the Amiga?" is emphatically not "Valhalla: Lord of Infinity"

19% was a very generous score. Everything, the animation, the puzzles, the sluggishness, that your reward for reaching the 4th level is the amazingly punchable main character saying "megamazing" all the time, the wandering through samey brown corridors is very, very bad indeed. It's be even worse if you also had to cope with not knowing where the death pits were.

And that's before you get to valhalla 3s plot of "I'm horny and there are no girls, find me girls".

ZOMG Spoiler! Click here to view!


You should play "Valhalla: Lord of infinity"


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Wow. That looks so annoying! Even carrying out any action is a pain.


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Everything about the Valhalla games was just painfully slow. It would have been a halfway decent adventure game if everything just ticked on along a bit quicker and you didn't have to wait for the main character to speak at the sky every fucking time you did something.

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Ho-ho! They're available on PC...

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Hang on... "they"?

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Hang on... "they"?

There was more than one? This is news to me.

The guy with the deep voice in the track is the PC in the sequel.

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Hang on... "they"?

There was more than one? This is news to me.


yeah 3.

1 where you play an utterly punchable prepuescent twerp.
2 is a prequel where you play the uncle who your task in the first is to kill
3 is a sequel where you play the now pubescent twerp who is "now at the the age where he notices girls, but when he tries to notice them there are none to notice" and wants a girl to notice

seriously, hes become even more punchable (see timestamp)... https://youtu.be/afcVG5s6DQU?t=46


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Hang on... "they"?

There was more than one? This is news to me.

The guy with the deep voice in the track is the PC in the sequel.


the deep voice is just the skull(s), I think. Sounds different from the uncle.


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Hang on... "they"?

There was more than one? This is news to me.

The guy with the deep voice in the track is the PC in the sequel.


the deep voice is just the skull(s), I think. Sounds different from the uncle.


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Mr Dave wrote:
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Hang on... "they"?

There was more than one? This is news to me.


yeah 3.

1 where you play an utterly punchable prepuescent twerp.
2 is a prequel where you play the uncle who your task in the first is to kill
3 is a sequel where you play the now pubescent twerp who is "now at the the age where he notices girls, but when he tries to notice them there are none to notice" and wants a girl to notice

seriously, hes become even more punchable (see timestamp)... https://youtu.be/afcVG5s6DQU?t=46


Christ. I can totally see him in the current Tory party. Pals with Tom Harwood.


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