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 Post subject: Re: Musical disappointment - albums that turned out to be crap
PostPosted: Mon May 13, 2019 18:50 
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I can highly recommend Lantlôs, if the whole blackgaze* thing appeals. But I'll not stomp all over the thread with my stupid shrieking metal no-one likes, apologies all!

*no-one actually calls it 'blackgaze'. I hope.

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I can highly recommend Lantlôs, if the whole blackgaze* thing appeals. But I'll not stomp all over the thread with my stupid shrieking metal no-one likes, apologies all!

*no-one actually calls it 'blackgaze'. I hope.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackgaze

Ghost Bath are also excellent if you haven’t heard them.

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I find it interesting that metal is the one type of music that seems super-obsessed with genre labels. Maybe because it's less mainstream (you're not going to hear it in a lift or a shop) so people are less likely to know what they like and have to hunt down bands they prefer more?

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Or because it has such a broad internal variation?

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I can highly recommend Lantlôs, if the whole blackgaze* thing appeals. But I'll not stomp all over the thread with my stupid shrieking metal no-one likes, apologies all!

*no-one actually calls it 'blackgaze'. I hope.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackgaze

Ghost Bath are also excellent if you haven’t heard them.


Were they the ones who pretended to be Chinese? That was all really weird. They're very, very good though, you're right.

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Or because it has such a broad internal variation?


Well, you can't really apply the catch-all term 'black metal' to bands as wildly diverse as, say, Infernal War and Les Discrets. They share a common root in the genre, but they're barely alike at all.

But yeah, the whole super-compartmentalised pigeonholing is unique to metal. Metalheads are the kind of people who would call Radiohead something like 'cinematic post-indie progressive electronic altcore' instead of, you know, a rock band.

Metalheads.

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I find it interesting that metal is the one type of music that seems super-obsessed with genre labels. Maybe because it's less mainstream (you're not going to hear it in a lift or a shop) so people are less likely to know what they like and have to hunt down bands they prefer more?

Hi, come and meet house music. Which you have to call EDM now.

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Dance, trance, house, funky house, hard house, hardcore, techno, electro…they are literally endless (and all sound the same)

I’m just kidding.

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I'm currently right into brutal neurofunk.

And I'm not even making that up ?:| It's a sub-genre of drum and bass.

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I'm currently right into brutal neurofunk.

And I'm not even making that up ?:| It's a sub-genre of drum and bass.

I like drum and bass but don’t know where to start. Help me out.

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Blues brothers 2000 wasn’t a patch on the original.

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Grim... wrote:
Cras wrote:
I find it interesting that metal is the one type of music that seems super-obsessed with genre labels. Maybe because it's less mainstream (you're not going to hear it in a lift or a shop) so people are less likely to know what they like and have to hunt down bands they prefer more?

Hi, come and meet house music. Which you have to call EDM now.


I was thinking about house/dance/trance/whatever when I wrote that.

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Grim... wrote:
I'm currently right into brutal neurofunk.

And I'm not even making that up ?:| It's a sub-genre of drum and bass.

I like drum and bass but don’t know where to start. Help me out.


This'll do you. UFK playlists are always great.

I like neurofunk - it's sort of pretty much drum & bass but with that growly midrange Massive bassline sound used as a lead.

Grim... - you heard much stuff on Methlab Agency? It's pretty much all completely bonkers.

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Grim... wrote:
I'm currently right into brutal neurofunk.

And I'm not even making that up ?:| It's a sub-genre of drum and bass.

I like drum and bass but don’t know where to start. Help me out.

Rene LaVice has a drum and bass show on Monday nights on Radio 1 which is really good. He plays a great selection.

I really like Matrix and Futurebound, Mattix and Futile, Drumsound and Baseline Smith, High Contrast, Danny Byrd, and Sub Focus.

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Grim... - you heard much stuff on Methlab Agency? It's pretty much all completely bonkers.

Yes! It's fucking mental :D

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 Post subject: Re: Musical disappointment - albums that turned out to be crap
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OK, here we go, the presidents first album.

Hmm I remember this opening, it's quite cool. And then... meow meow meow meow mee-ow. And the whiny meow in the background. This is an annoying first song. Fuck you, Kitty, indeed. Kitty on my phone and I want to skip it. Oh wait the end was OK and had me tapping my foot a little.

Second song. Boring start.

I will listen through it but probably won't keep posting this tripe.

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Nope, I still don't like the song about the Dune Buggy.

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Nope, I still don't like the song about the Dune Buggy.



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It's not a bad album as such but I just don't really like much of it, there's a lot of forgettable stuff on there for me. I don't hate it but wouldn't really seek it out to listen to.

I enjoyed a few of the more 'thrashy' style fast paced tracks or sections but nothing changes from my previous feelings. Lump and Peaches remain the highlights and still on my favourites playlist.

After this has finished I'll try Dog Eat Dog (I'm not looking forward to that at all to be honest).

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Dog Eat Dog


40 seconds into the album... erk, what a racket :facepalm:

The bass line seemed OK but the horn section is already grating.

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Just blunts they kick this just for fun.

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Just blunts they kick this just for fun.


They may well be having fun but I'm finding this a bit tiresome and the awkward transitions between elements in the songs are jarring. I'm finding this a bit hard going and it's not helping me work. Little wonder this CD was only played once or twice.

If I remember correctly (although I may have got the time-frames mixed up), I bought the CD from a Virgin Megastore, and my friend Lee bought a Terrorvision album (or maybe single), I think it was the one with Perseverance on it. He certainly made a better choice than me.

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I got about 7 or 8 tracks in before I thought fuck it, and skipped the rest. This is possibly worse than I remember. I feel angry that this will be in my Spotify history.

Next up, Spin Doctors!

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I somehow own the No Fronts Cd single. It is, indeed, very cacky pants.

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Compared to that utter fucking dross, Pocket Full of Kryptonite sounds quite well produced and performed by a band with a bit more skill on their instruments.

A lot of it is forgettable, but it's not bad listening actually. A bit noodly in places but jolly enough. I feel that out of the three so far, this might have been the one that was least deserving of my negativity.

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I'm going to try and listen to Grave Dancers Union but I'm not sure I'll have the willpower to see it through.

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Nope, 5 tracks in and I stopped. It wasn't bad but it was pretty uninspiring. At times a bit of a dirge, but musically probably reasonably competent (I'm not a great judge of that).

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Elastica's The Menace.

The first album was tight as fuck, brilliantly done (way better than Sleeper's SMART), and electrifying. The menace just, wasn't.

Whipping Boy's Submarine. For so long my white whale, and it wasn't what I had hoped and dreamed for. Listen to Heartworm and the other album. Bloody love Whipping Boy. Soundtrack to many a trio to the beach and back.

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I got about 7 or 8 tracks in before I thought fuck it, and skipped the rest. This is possibly worse than I remember. I feel angry that this will be in my Spotify history.

Next up, Spin Doctors!


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It's not crap but Lukas Graham - Purple Album is a little disappointing.

The first was edgy and I liked how they tell stories. In the second one (purple) he's all loved up. I still like it, but nowhere as much as I like The Blue Album.

It's kinda like going from Linkin Park to Barry White.

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Rupert Hine - Pick Up a Bone

Released 1971 and had some excellent musicians on it. I'd never heard of it until I saw a large poster for it on a wall in a friend's flat, and I thought it was a great bit of album art work, ticking the prog rock boxes. I forgot all about it until years later, when I came across it somewhere on CD, and bought it in impulse.

The problem is that having great musicians on an album isn't much use if the songs are rubbish, which they are. Every now and again I play it to see if it may now appeal to me, as my musical tastes have developed since those days, but it's still boring and unlistenable.

And the moral is, never judge an album by its cover.

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