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PostPosted: Thu Apr 18, 2019 10:45 
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Zardoz mentioned super-criminal origin stories. I like criminal origin stories.

WHAT ONE IS BEST?

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 Post subject: Re: Origin stories
PostPosted: Thu Apr 18, 2019 10:47 
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My immediate thought is Dr. Horrible, followed by a couple of others that all involve putting women in fridges, now I think about it.

Huh.

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 Post subject: Re: Origin stories
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Protects them from nuclear bombs, though.

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 Post subject: Re: Origin stories
PostPosted: Thu Apr 18, 2019 10:54 
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Those others are The Joker and (Buffy Spoiler)
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 Post subject: Re: Origin stories
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The worst ones are "super-hero killed my evil parent so now I'm going to dedicate my life to trying to murder said super-hero which will also inevitably involve murdering loads of innocent people". Like boo-fucking-hoo; your parent was a cunt and they got killed while being a cunt so no sympathy there. And using the death of a cunt to be all self-righteous when murdering innocent people is double bullshit. It's not only a lazy trope but completely unrelateable and makes for a thoroughly one dimensional antagonist.

I'll have a think about good ones because nothing's coming to mind at the moment...


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 Post subject: Re: Origin stories
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Two Face is a decent example. Taking a character that was initially setup as a shining light of justice and goodness in a swamp like Gotham then turning them into a villain is an interesting enough setup in itself; but having the original Harvey still there and locked in a constant battle with his worst self adds an ongoing level of complexity that's pretty satisfying.

Though I suppose I'm more talking about the overall character there rather than the actual origin story which is more "man gets half his face burned off". In most cases the actual origin is something equally boring sounding though, the interesting stuff comes from the impact that has on the character.


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 Post subject: Re: Origin stories
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Craster : He ate some tainted pork and started metamorphising.


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 Post subject: Re: Origin stories
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A race of bald humanoids create life on Earth millions of years ago. The humans developed and eventually go looking for their creators with the help of a gay robot. The gay robot eventually finds the baldies planet and kills them all. With everyone dead he’s a bit bored so he experiments with the baldies bioweapon to create the alien species after experimenting with some wasps t... oh a good one. I’ll have another think.


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 Post subject: Re: Origin stories
PostPosted: Thu Apr 18, 2019 11:24 
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The Penguin slowburn in Gotham is pretty good. Criminal by a thousand slights.

The ultimate criminal origin story is Saul Goodman though, but he isn't super.


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 Post subject: Re: Origin stories
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Gotham is a weird mix of fantastic interpretations of DC origin stories and absolutely terrible ones

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Trooper wrote:
The ultimate criminal origin story is Saul Goodman though, but he isn't super.

Better than Walter White?

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Ozymandias and Magneto spring to mind, as long as you consider them villains.

Killmonger was good too.

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Grim... wrote:
Trooper wrote:
The ultimate criminal origin story is Saul Goodman though, but he isn't super.

Better than Walter White?


Yes. WW was always a bad man, he just needed an outlet.
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Heart of Ice in BTAS is legit.


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I don’t know many, but I like that Robin was an acrobat.

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