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Author:  KovacsC [ Fri Feb 08, 2019 9:50 ]
Post subject:  Twitter

I can’t find the original twitter post. I had to tweet someone. Very alien for me as I never really got Twitter

What’s a good client to use. I have an old version of Tweetbot and it says it needs upgrading.

Although I have not been on Twitter for 2000+ days.

Author:  devilman [ Fri Feb 08, 2019 10:01 ]
Post subject:  Re: Twitter

I just use the official app. It's not perfect (especially the recent Facebook-like addition of not showing things chronologically until you tap the 'Latest Tweets' thing), but it does the job and supports multiple accounts.

Author:  zaphod79 [ Fri Feb 08, 2019 10:15 ]
Post subject:  Re: Twitter

You could also just go to the twitter website and do it from there without installing anything

Author:  Cras [ Fri Feb 08, 2019 10:28 ]
Post subject:  Re: Twitter

Flamingo is great for Android.

Author:  myp [ Fri Feb 08, 2019 13:13 ]
Post subject:  Re: Twitter

Didn’t Tweetbot become the official iPhone app? That’s some old version.

Author:  Doctor Glyndwr [ Fri Feb 08, 2019 13:26 ]
Post subject:  Re: Twitter

Lonewolves wrote:
Didn’t Tweetbot become the official iPhone app? That’s some old version.

No. You're thinking of Tweetie, the creator of which (lorenb@) was hired by Twitter to work on its first official mobile app. That shared some concepts with Tweetie, and possible some code, although it wasn't a straight up re-release or anything.

Author:  Cras [ Fri Feb 08, 2019 13:42 ]
Post subject:  Re: Twitter

devilman wrote:
I just use the official app. It's not perfect (especially the recent Facebook-like addition of not showing things chronologically until you tap the 'Latest Tweets' thing), but it does the job and supports multiple accounts.


It has ads as well, there are so many much better 3rd party apps.

Author:  KovacsC [ Fri Feb 08, 2019 13:47 ]
Post subject:  Re: Twitter

Lonewolves wrote:
Didn’t Tweetbot become the official iPhone app? That’s some old version.



yup, version 3.6.3

Author:  TheVision [ Fri Feb 08, 2019 14:18 ]
Post subject:  Re: Twitter

Cras wrote:
Flamingo is great for Android.


It may be great, but it's really hard to find in the rubbish play store. Do you have a link at all?

Author:  devilman [ Fri Feb 08, 2019 14:19 ]
Post subject:  Re: Twitter

Cras wrote:
devilman wrote:
I just use the official app. It's not perfect (especially the recent Facebook-like addition of not showing things chronologically until you tap the 'Latest Tweets' thing), but it does the job and supports multiple accounts.


It has ads as well, there are so many much better 3rd party apps.


True, but they haven't been obtrusive enough to drive me to look for an alternative yet. Although I mainly use Twitter on a PC browser so I only really use it once or twice a day on mobile.

Author:  Cras [ Fri Feb 08, 2019 14:24 ]
Post subject:  Re: Twitter

TheVision wrote:
Cras wrote:
Flamingo is great for Android.


It may be great, but it's really hard to find in the rubbish play store. Do you have a link at all?


Oh, it got pulled from the store because of Twitter's per-app user limit :( Sorry.

Author:  TheVision [ Fri Feb 08, 2019 14:30 ]
Post subject:  Re: Twitter

Cras wrote:
TheVision wrote:
Cras wrote:
Flamingo is great for Android.


It may be great, but it's really hard to find in the rubbish play store. Do you have a link at all?


Oh, it got pulled from the store because of Twitter's per-app user limit :( Sorry.


Ah that explains it. No worries.

Anyway, I use the official Twitter app and I've found that by 'blocking' every advertiser that runs adverts, you'll see less adverts. It might take a while to block everyone, and new ones do crop up occasionally but at least it helps.

Author:  myp [ Fri Feb 08, 2019 14:39 ]
Post subject:  Re: Twitter

Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
Lonewolves wrote:
Didn’t Tweetbot become the official iPhone app? That’s some old version.

No. You're thinking of Tweetie, the creator of which (lorenb@) was hired by Twitter to work on its first official mobile app. That shared some concepts with Tweetie, and possible some code, although it wasn't a straight up re-release or anything.

That’s the one, ta!

Author:  Mimi [ Wed Oct 09, 2019 22:30 ]
Post subject:  Re: Twitter

Slightly aware of the drama being played out on Twitter by Wayne Rooney’s wife and, I think, the wife of another footballer, because everyone is talking about it, and it has led to one of the best hashtags I have ever seen: #WagathaChristie

Author:  devilman [ Wed Oct 09, 2019 22:32 ]
Post subject:  Re: Twitter

Mimi wrote:
Slightly aware of the drama being played out on Twitter by Wayne Rooney’s wife and, I think, the wife of another footballer, because everyone is talking about it, and it has led to one of the best hashtags I have ever seen: #WagathaChristie


Also, but not as good #WAGgart

Author:  Squirt [ Thu Oct 10, 2019 9:45 ]
Post subject:  Re: Twitter

I'd argue, however, that this was clearly a counter-intelligence operation rather than detective work, and so far more John Le Carre than Agatha Christie. #TinkerTailorSoldierWAG is no way near as good a hashtag though.

Author:  Curiosity [ Thu Oct 10, 2019 9:49 ]
Post subject:  Re: Twitter

I did like the person who said, “Well no wonder she keeps on finding out about all of Wayne’s affairs if he’s married to #wagathachristie”

Author:  Malc [ Sat Jul 30, 2022 15:05 ]
Post subject:  Re: Twitter

Attachment:
strange promoted tweet.png


I often see stuff like this, and wonder why it happens?

Does linkedin think people will use their website for promoting a story from over a week ago? Is it a mistake? Did they pay for X thousand impressions, and it's taken much longer for them to reach that number?

Author:  Malc [ Sun Nov 06, 2022 15:43 ]
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https://twitter.com/amazingmap/status/1 ... 0367305728




Ooh, funky

Author:  JBR [ Sun Nov 06, 2022 17:59 ]
Post subject:  Re: Twitter

Retweeted by Terrible Maps, and I'm with them I think.

Author:  Kern [ Sun Nov 06, 2022 18:11 ]
Post subject:  Re: Twitter

One of my many unfashionable but longheld opinions is that we should ditch GMT and be on summertime (and double summertime in the summer) all year round.

Dark evenings are far more miserable than dark mornings.

Scotland, of course, can go its own way on this.

Author:  markg [ Sun Nov 06, 2022 19:10 ]
Post subject:  Re: Twitter

Yeah they need to stop, it's a totally pointless waste of effort. Admittedly not as bad as it used to be, I think my van is the only thing I have left that doesn't set its own clock but it's still annoying that it's wrong for six months of the year. They used to go on about kids going to school in the dark but hardly any young kids go to school on their own now anyway.

Author:  Mr Russell [ Sun Nov 06, 2022 19:33 ]
Post subject:  Re: Twitter

The only thing putting me off any kind of changes to timezone and BST stuff now is having to program the servers.

But I'm all for it.

Author:  Grim... [ Mon Nov 07, 2022 16:10 ]
Post subject:  Re: Twitter

markg wrote:
Yeah they need to stop, it's a totally pointless waste of effort. Admittedly not as bad as it used to be, I think my van is the only thing I have left that doesn't set its own clock but it's still annoying that it's wrong for six months of the year. They used to go on about kids going to school in the dark but hardly any young kids go to school on their own now anyway.

Kern still wants to change them in the summer, though.

Author:  Kern [ Mon Nov 07, 2022 16:19 ]
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Grim... wrote:
markg wrote:
Yeah they need to stop, it's a totally pointless waste of effort. Admittedly not as bad as it used to be, I think my van is the only thing I have left that doesn't set its own clock but it's still annoying that it's wrong for six months of the year. They used to go on about kids going to school in the dark but hardly any young kids go to school on their own now anyway.

Kern still wants to change them in the summer, though.


I'm open to move on this point. As someone who spends most of the summer covering themselves in factor 50, I'm always grateful when the most intense part of the day is over so if double summer time would mean having to keep on applying the lotion into the early evening, there might be something in not pushing clocks that extra bit forward.

Author:  Dimrill [ Mon Nov 07, 2022 19:23 ]
Post subject:  Re: Twitter

We should fix propellers on this island and follow the dark around. more dark please.

Author:  TheVision [ Mon Nov 07, 2022 22:43 ]
Post subject:  Re: Twitter

I've joined Mastodon... And I keep spelling it wrong.

I'm @Rossoftherobots over there but i have no idea if that's how you find me.

Author:  Cras [ Tue Nov 08, 2022 1:14 ]
Post subject:  Re: Twitter

You need the instance name as well - so I'm @[email protected]

Author:  TheVision [ Tue Nov 08, 2022 1:40 ]
Post subject:  Re: Twitter

Ah yes, I have one of those!

@[email protected]

Just rolls off the tongue that.

Author:  GazChap [ Tue Nov 08, 2022 7:49 ]
Post subject:  Re: Twitter

I feel like Mastodon won’t ever gain traction because of that, it’s just so user hostile compared to a centralised user database — especially when you can register the same username as someone else on a different instance.

Author:  DavPaz [ Tue Nov 08, 2022 9:29 ]
Post subject:  Re: Twitter

Yeah, nah. I'm not interested in another social platform. I only use Twitter for school updates and that seems to have dried up.

Author:  Trooper [ Tue Nov 08, 2022 9:48 ]
Post subject:  Re: Twitter

The intial UX is awful, and that's why it will fail. Anything that needs a "this is what it is and how you use it" article will never be picked up by the masses.

Author:  TheVision [ Tue Nov 08, 2022 10:13 ]
Post subject:  Re: Twitter

I agree... I've had a little look at it but I don't think it'll catch on.

I found Cras and managed to follow him but when I tried to follow Jem, it asked me to log in again and do something with a server? Nah, no good.

Author:  DavPaz [ Tue Nov 08, 2022 10:22 ]
Post subject:  Re: Twitter

It's got a very "Google Plus" feel to it. Too late, too late!

Author:  TheVision [ Tue Nov 08, 2022 10:30 ]
Post subject:  Re: Twitter

I liked Google Plus but I realise I was in the minority. I also wasn't on Facebook at the time so I imagine that helped.

Author:  zaphod79 [ Tue Nov 08, 2022 10:31 ]
Post subject:  Re: Twitter

Its just not ready for prime time yet - as an example i tried to sign up , stumbled around until i found a place that was accepting new sign ups and signed up.

After going through the whole process i then got my account and got a note that this was for active users , and if you just lurked then this is not the place for you and you should go find somewhere else (i'm very much a twitter lurker not poster).

For those actively moving this was posted as a useful way to scrape your twitter account and identify anyone who has an equivalent account : https://fedifinder.glitch.me/ it needs read only permission to twitter and once you run it you can then revoke that quite easily.

Author:  Jem [ Tue Nov 08, 2022 10:32 ]
Post subject:  Re: Twitter

TheVision wrote:
I agree... I've had a little look at it but I don't think it'll catch on.

I found Cras and managed to follow him but when I tried to follow Jem, it asked me to log in again and do something with a server? Nah, no good.

It does this when you're on the other person's instance instead of your own - it doesn't know who you are. Rather than log on again I just c&p the full username/location into the search box back on my 'own' server and bob's your uncle.

Probably makes me sound like a twat but I'm not entirely bothered about mastodon alienating people who can't figure it out. Might help keep the quality higher. :shrug:

Author:  zaphod79 [ Tue Nov 08, 2022 10:35 ]
Post subject:  Re: Twitter

Oh and I did note that after sacking around 1/2 the staff some people are now saying that was a mistake and they are trying to tell people that no - they were not sacked and they need them to run the place and work on the new features that are needed

https://futurism.com/the-byte/twitter-f ... -come-back

Oh and the latest money spinning idea is that all of twitter will go behind a paywall : https://www.platformer.news/p/musk-disc ... of-twitter

Author:  TheVision [ Tue Nov 08, 2022 10:38 ]
Post subject:  Re: Twitter

Jem wrote:

Probably makes me sound like a twat but I'm not entirely bothered about mastodon alienating people who can't figure it out. Might help keep the quality higher. :shrug:


Doesn't make you sound like a twat at all and it's not the first thing that I've given up on after 3 or 4 seconds of trying to figure it out. You're right, if the average joe can't do it then they won't bother and it will keep the quality higher.

Author:  DavPaz [ Tue Nov 08, 2022 11:46 ]
Post subject:  Re: Twitter

Jem is such a twat :D

Author:  GazChap [ Tue Nov 08, 2022 12:25 ]
Post subject:  Re: Twitter

TheVision wrote:
it's not the first thing that I've given up on after 3 or 4 seconds of trying to figure it out

title

Author:  Jem [ Tue Nov 08, 2022 15:15 ]
Post subject:  Re: Twitter

DavPaz wrote:
Jem is such a twat :D

This probably isn't news to a lot of people

Author:  BikNorton [ Tue Nov 08, 2022 19:37 ]
Post subject:  Re: Twitter

So it's like IRC except no-one knows how to computer anymore?

Author:  Dimrill [ Tue Nov 08, 2022 21:17 ]
Post subject:  Re: Twitter

Image

I signed up on the last twitter crisis and found it utterly impenetrable.

Author:  BikNorton [ Wed Nov 09, 2022 0:41 ]
Post subject:  Re: Twitter

Definitely sounds like IRC.

Author:  Sir Taxalot [ Wed Nov 09, 2022 1:04 ]
Post subject:  Re: Twitter

GazChap wrote:
especially when you can register the same username as someone else on a different instance.


:bulb:
:hat:

Author:  Cras [ Wed Nov 09, 2022 1:28 ]
Post subject:  Re: Twitter

If you consider it like an email address, it makes a lot more sense. Gmail.com and outlook.com are different mail server, you pick one and sign up for an account. [email protected] and [email protected] are different people. They can message each other because gmail.com and outlook.com can message each other. If you want to add me to your address book, you need my name and the name of the server.

Author:  Jem [ Wed Nov 09, 2022 10:26 ]
Post subject:  Re: Twitter

Cras wrote:
If you consider it like an email address, it makes a lot more sense. Gmail.com and outlook.com are different mail server, you pick one and sign up for an account. [email protected] and [email protected] are different people. They can message each other because gmail.com and outlook.com can message each other. If you want to add me to your address book, you need my name and the name of the server.


:this:

This is a great explanation :D

Author:  GazChap [ Wed Nov 09, 2022 12:44 ]
Post subject:  Re: Twitter

Where the analogy falls apart though for me at least, is that emails are always private, i.e. there's no public feed (shared mailboxes excepted, I guess)

So if I come across a toot(?) by @[email protected] and then later in the day come across another toot by @[email protected], I have to remember which one is which. In most cases that won't be an issue I expect, but if it takes off to the point that celebs and customer service types are frequenting it, suddenly it becomes a breeding ground for people to impersonate other people and you've got two @elonmusk's at different servers, both with identical profiles and you just have to hope that you're interacting with the one that ISN'T a scammer.

Now yeah, you could level similar criticisms against all networks, including Twitter, but the lack of a centralised username database is just utter bonkers to me for this reason.

And yeah, the onboarding process is shash. It just reeks of something that's been designed by geeks, without any thought being spared for the "common folk" that might end up using it.

Author:  Jem [ Wed Nov 09, 2022 15:13 ]
Post subject:  Re: Twitter

GazChap wrote:
And yeah, the onboarding process is shash. It just reeks of something that's been designed by geeks, without any thought being spared for the "common folk" that might end up using it.


Still not sure that's a bad thing

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