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...whut? I've never seen of or heard of this, and I'd run a mile from it, personally.

Yeah, fuck that noise. If anything in a rented place breaks (assuming it's not because the tenant smashed it up or whatever) the idea that it wouldn't be the landlord's responsibility to sort out is mental.

I have my actual tenancy agreement open, as it happens:



Note you can't have it both ways, in this contract at least; if it's listed on the inventory, the landlord has to keep it working. If the landlord doesn't want to look after it, they can remove it from the inventory, but the tenant isn't responsible for anything. We had our washing machine replaced a couple of months ago. This is KFH's standard contract.

I’d say that was a fairly standard clause too.

Mind you, that clause is silent on replacements due to misuse but I’d imagine that is another clause (but if not it’s poor drafting).

Yeah, probably. It's a pretty long contract.

Proving misuse is very difficult though, so you end up just replacing IME.
"The door just fell off the oven did it? Strange, i've never had that happen to me before..."

I have.

The oven door in my kitchen is too close to the surface, occasionally it catches it slightly when closing - it's happened before that it's been closing caught it and shattered.

10/10 kitchen design...

They've always been in every tenancy agreement I've ever sent to a tenant, and no-one's batted an eyelid at it.

Feex for what's probably going on.

That’s because most tenants don’t argue over the terms of a tenancy agreement. Until something goes wrong or there’s a breach of course.

I read my entire contract and had pet clauses and break clauses added, then negotiated the precise terms of each... to be fair the letting agent was a bit confused that I was this detail-orientated. I was given the impression this doesn't happen often.

It doesn’t.

Trudat. No white goods ever broke while I was renting (or at least if it did, I didn't hear about it) so

Again, it seems to be a normal thing in the area I am renting in. I wonder if this happens more when someone moves out of their own home and leaves behind white goods that they don't need. I was advised by the EA that I could just 'gift' them to the tenants. For someone just starting to get a home together it can be useful, even if it just lasts for a short while. It doesn't need to be included in the monthly rental payment as the LL hasn't had it as a cost in the first place and if it's up to the tenant to replace, then no future cost either. Sorry, rambling now.

It seems a lot like people in your part of the world are perpetually confused about whether they should or should not own white goods.

It's definitely a thing - we were advised to gift the white goods over to the tenant so we weren't then liable for repairing/ replacing them. Not quite sure how that then works out at the end of the tenancy though.... this is presumably what I'm paying the manhunt agent to sort out for me

My tenant broke the front door lock and sweet talked the fucking useless management company so I ended up paying for it. Wankers.

Murderlawyer’s killing spree continues from abroad! That’s dedication.

I mean. How many times do they think they'll break over the course of the two years tenancy that it's cheaper to give them away?!

Plus you can get that £15 per month appliance cover.

I'd imagine that depends entirely on the tenants themselves. One of the guys in the flat above mine used to rent it out, and the way his tenants treated that place was absolutely shocking - I can well believe that the white goods in there were constantly on the blink.