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Author:  Bamba [ Wed May 30, 2018 20:55 ]
Post subject:  Re: Fallout 76

"But Fallout 76 is in fact an online survival RPG that’s heavily inspired by games like DayZ and Rust, according to three people familiar with the project."

Allegedly.

https://kotaku.com/sources-fallout-76-i ... 1826425333

Author:  Mr Dave [ Wed May 30, 2018 21:05 ]
Post subject:  Re: Fallout 76

Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
MaliA wrote:
I hated dog

This is the most monstrous thing you have ever said, and that’s saying something.

"Look at this picture of me and a ssink"

Author:  Doctor Glyndwr [ Wed May 30, 2018 21:22 ]
Post subject:  Re: Fallout 76

https://kotaku.com/sources-fallout-76-i ... 1826425333

I could see this working.

Author:  Bamba [ Wed May 30, 2018 21:46 ]
Post subject:  Re: Fallout 76

Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
https://kotaku.com/sources-fallout-76-is-an-online-survival-rpg-1826425333

I could see this working.


Not reading one post huh?

Author:  Doctor Glyndwr [ Wed May 30, 2018 21:57 ]
Post subject:  Re: Fallout 76

Bamba wrote:
Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
https://kotaku.com/sources-fallout-76-is-an-online-survival-rpg-1826425333

I could see this working.


Not reading one post huh?

beex, beex never changes

Author:  MaliA [ Wed May 30, 2018 22:27 ]
Post subject:  Re: Fallout 76

Bamba wrote:
"But Fallout 76 is in fact an online survival RPG that’s heavily inspired by games like DayZ and Rust, according to three people familiar with the project."

Allegedly.

https://kotaku.com/sources-fallout-76-i ... 1826425333


Swiping right on that.

Author:  MaliA [ Wed May 30, 2018 22:36 ]
Post subject:  Re: Fallout 76

Mr Dave wrote:
Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
MaliA wrote:
I hated dog

This is the most monstrous thing you have ever said, and that’s saying something.

"Look at this picture of me and a ssink"



"The Internet famous Doctor Glyndwr, you may have seen him present in 2018 at Google's I/O, to establish credentials of his intelligence, and his bona fide influencer status on the Internet, once commented that the worst thing, no, sorry, that is wrong, the most monstrous thing MaliA has ever said was expressing doubt at a canine sidekick being a good thing in a video game. With that in mind, and will say it again, as it bears repeating, Internet savant and application process troubleshooting genius lecturer Doctor Glyndwr has said, in his opinion,the most monstrous thing MaliA thinks is animal companions are overrated, with this words ringing in yours ears, a clarion bell of considered thought, do yu really think he ever said to Mr Dave ""Look at this picture of me and a sink", your honor? THE DEFENCE RESTS"

Author:  Cras [ Mon Jun 11, 2018 10:06 ]
Post subject:  Re: Fallout 76

So, this is indeed an instanced online game. If it allows private instances it could be amazing. If you have to share the world with randos, it'll be griefer central.

Author:  Pundabaya [ Mon Jun 11, 2018 10:15 ]
Post subject:  Re: Fallout 76

Yeah.
All griefers, all the time. From the videos, they also expect baddies to be loners for some reason. Expect full teams of griefers, especially as it appears you need a team to use the nukes...

Author:  TheVision [ Mon Jun 11, 2018 10:27 ]
Post subject:  Re: Fallout 76

Cras wrote:
So, this is indeed an instanced online game. If it allows private instances it could be amazing. If you have to share the world with randos, it'll be griefer central.


I thought this was always the case too until I played Sea of Thieves. Excuse the pun, but maybe the tides are changing? Perhaps randos can work together?

Author:  Cras [ Mon Jun 11, 2018 10:30 ]
Post subject:  Re: Fallout 76

The difference here is that it's encouraging base building, and PvP raiding. The two don't mix well.

Author:  Doctor Glyndwr [ Mon Jun 11, 2018 11:09 ]
Post subject:  Re: Fallout 76

Cras wrote:
The difference here is that it's encouraging base building, and PvP raiding. The two don't mix well.

And nuclear missiles.

Author:  JohnCoffey [ Mon Jun 11, 2018 17:42 ]
Post subject:  Re: Fallout 76

Image

:metul:

Author:  Pundabaya [ Mon Jun 11, 2018 17:44 ]
Post subject:  Re: Fallout 76

What the fuckity?

Author:  JohnCoffey [ Mon Jun 11, 2018 17:51 ]
Post subject:  Re: Fallout 76

Pundabaya wrote:
What the fuckity?



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwOYEsnm1i4

Author:  DavPaz [ Mon Jun 11, 2018 20:43 ]
Post subject:  Re: Fallout 76

A HUNDRED AND SEVENTY FIVE QUID!? Does it come with a blowjob?

Author:  Cras [ Mon Jun 11, 2018 20:45 ]
Post subject:  Re: Fallout 76

Confirmed online only, and no NPCs at all. PVP some sort of opt-in.

Author:  myp [ Mon Jun 11, 2018 21:08 ]
Post subject:  Re: Fallout 76

I can't afford to spend a quarter of that amount on a game these days. :(

Author:  Zardoz [ Mon Jun 11, 2018 21:30 ]
Post subject:  Re: Fallout 76

What a helmet.

Author:  ApplePieOfDestiny [ Mon Jun 11, 2018 21:39 ]
Post subject:  Re: Fallout 76

DavPaz wrote:
A HUNDRED AND SEVENTY FIVE QUID!? Does it come with a blowjob?

That’s still an expensive blowjob.

Author:  DavPaz [ Mon Jun 11, 2018 21:55 ]
Post subject:  Re: Fallout 76

ApplePieOfDestiny wrote:
DavPaz wrote:
A HUNDRED AND SEVENTY FIVE QUID!? Does it come with a blowjob?

That’s still an expensive blowjob.

Either way, your helmet gets polished

Author:  Bamba [ Tue Jun 12, 2018 8:47 ]
Post subject:  Re: Fallout 76

Lonewolves wrote:
I can't afford to spend a quarter of that amount on a game these days. :(


Neither can John, that's never stopped him before. And given how much he disliked some of the additions to FO4 he's just spent a stupid amount of money on something he'll almost certainly hate.

Author:  Kris [ Tue Jun 12, 2018 9:21 ]
Post subject:  Re: Fallout 76

YES BUT you get a helmet...

Author:  GazChap [ Tue Jun 12, 2018 9:30 ]
Post subject:  Re: Fallout 76

Cras wrote:
no NPCs at all

#NotMyFallout

Author:  JohnCoffey [ Tue Jun 12, 2018 9:36 ]
Post subject:  Re: Fallout 76

Bamba wrote:
Lonewolves wrote:
I can't afford to spend a quarter of that amount on a game these days. :(


Neither can John, that's never stopped him before. And given how much he disliked some of the additions to FO4 he's just spent a stupid amount of money on something he'll almost certainly hate.


Ironically it may be the game I hate lol, not the toys.

I've got every box set released, apart from one (the 2008 pip boy ed with the clock that always broke) because $700 was too much. I have all of the others. FO3 lunchbox, FO3 BOS, FONV, FO4 PB and the mini nuke and etc. It is literally the only thing I collect that is intended for that purpose. Oh and about a half dozen Tshirts, socks, bottle openers, face masks, books, posters etc. Still got the 1/4" thick POS display for FONV (the one only large Gamestop stores got) so yeah, gotta have this one.

It will take something incredibly simple for me to love this game.

Either some one will hack/mod it to run on private servers (like you can with nearly every other co op game) which will be great. My friend and I both run our own L4D servers because we got sick of landing on servers with stupid cheats on. Or Bethesda will cave and release the software to host a private server. If neither happen? yeah, I could be a bit screwed.

We'll see. FO3 was the first RPG of any type or sort I had ever played. And it was this place that got me into it and gave me help and advice etc. Never looked back.. So you never know, you may be able to treat an old ASD new tricks.

Author:  JohnCoffey [ Tue Jun 12, 2018 9:41 ]
Post subject:  Re: Fallout 76

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_cont ... dYtulRRfDU

lol well that didn't take very long :D

Author:  Bamba [ Tue Jun 12, 2018 9:48 ]
Post subject:  Re: Fallout 76

I can't see YouTube stuff at work, what's the happs?

Author:  JohnCoffey [ Tue Jun 12, 2018 9:53 ]
Post subject:  Re: Fallout 76

Bamba wrote:
I can't see YouTube stuff at work, what's the happs?



In short?

- No offline
- Playing 'Solo' will still have you seeing other players
- No NPCs, excluding robots
- PvP is still being tweaked to avoid greifing
- Modding will be present in 76 but not at launch*
- Private servers will happen*
- Starfield in Production (Playable State) & TES VI is in Pre-Production

Noting the stars I added.

So basically? I will get my wish. I've got 8 guys already pre ordered, so at some point I will either turn one of my existing rigs into a server or make one. I look forward to visiting the BEEX wasteland :D

Author:  Kris [ Tue Jun 12, 2018 10:55 ]
Post subject:  Re: Fallout 76

Any ideas where to get the cheapest preorder?

Edit: I googled it, thanks.

Author:  Bamba [ Tue Jun 12, 2018 11:16 ]
Post subject:  Re: Fallout 76

Kris wrote:
Any ideas where to get the cheapest preorder?

Edit: I googled it, thanks.


The cheapest way is to not. Fuck pre-ordering and the bullshit it brings with it.

Author:  Kris [ Tue Jun 12, 2018 11:42 ]
Post subject:  Re: Fallout 76

Yeah, going to be playing it on the PC anyway so I decided not to bother (It's the same price it'll be).

Author:  Bamba [ Tue Jun 12, 2018 12:09 ]
Post subject:  Re: Fallout 76

Kris wrote:
Yeah, going to be playing it on the PC anyway so I decided not to bother (It's the same price it'll be).


Plus, there is always a chance that it'll suck (or have buggy/broken online play or whatever) so you might as well wait for the reviews.

Author:  JohnCoffey [ Tue Jun 12, 2018 12:15 ]
Post subject:  Re: Fallout 76

Bamba wrote:
Kris wrote:
Yeah, going to be playing it on the PC anyway so I decided not to bother (It's the same price it'll be).


Plus, there is always a chance that it'll suck (or have buggy/broken online play or whatever) so you might as well wait for the reviews.


With the BETA I doubt you would even have to wait that long tbh.

Author:  Kris [ Tue Jun 12, 2018 13:07 ]
Post subject:  Re: Fallout 76

The GF absolutely loves fallout, she buys everything so I'll definitely be playing it on release, but it'll be a case of watching for reviews of the beta beforehand.

Author:  nickachu [ Thu Jun 14, 2018 17:31 ]
Post subject:  Re: Fallout 76

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gi8PTAJ2Hjs

Pretty interesting documentary about the making of the game. It looks good to me. I'll probably get it day1

Author:  Cras [ Thu Jun 14, 2018 17:34 ]
Post subject:  Re: Fallout 76

I imagine I will as well, but I really hope between now and then they'll be up front about a lot of the decisions they're making and allow time to change the approach if necessary.

Author:  nickachu [ Thu Jun 14, 2018 17:38 ]
Post subject:  Re: Fallout 76

Todd seemed to imply the beta would be a way for them to iron out the cracks, and it sounds (from the documentary I linked above) that they'll see what happens for a bit and then adapt from there. There's a whole studio that's gonna support it so hopefully it'll run and keep being fun and interesting for a while, with free DLC too. Question is though do I PC or PS4? Never played fallout on the PC.

Author:  Cras [ Thu Jun 14, 2018 17:42 ]
Post subject:  Re: Fallout 76

Note that the only way any game has ever been griefer-proofed, to my knowledge, is private instances.

Author:  Doctor Glyndwr [ Thu Jun 14, 2018 18:24 ]
Post subject:  Re: Fallout 76

nickachu wrote:
Todd seemed to imply the beta would be a way for them to iron out the cracks, and it sounds (from the documentary I linked above) that they'll see what happens for a bit and then adapt from there.

I've listened to a couple of interviews and he sounds rather like a guy making it up as he goes along. I think if they had a grand master plan to make it griefer-proof, he'd be telling people to neutralise the FUD. I think there's a worrying chance this is a shitshow on public servers. I've heard him veering from "death isn't bad, you don't lose any of your stuff, it won't get frustrating" to "we want some drama from PvP." Those are mutually incompatible. There's either something at risk when a player comes after you, or there isn't.

Author:  Doctor Glyndwr [ Thu Jun 14, 2018 18:24 ]
Post subject:  Re: Fallout 76

Cras wrote:
Note that the only way any game has ever been griefer-proofed, to my knowledge, is private instances.

I can only assume you've somehow never gamed with Mr "I brought a shotgun to a stealth game" Grim....

Author:  Cras [ Thu Jun 14, 2018 18:40 ]
Post subject:  Re: Fallout 76

Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
Cras wrote:
Note that the only way any game has ever been griefer-proofed, to my knowledge, is private instances.

I can only assume you've somehow never gamed with Mr "I brought a shotgun to a stealth game" Grim....


Yeah, but for some reason we invite him to games.

Author:  Grim... [ Thu Jun 14, 2018 20:51 ]
Post subject:  Re: Fallout 76

Because griefing the person stupid enough to pick up the fuel can in L4D was one of the funniest things ever.

Author:  Cras [ Thu Jun 14, 2018 21:05 ]
Post subject:  Re: Fallout 76

Not as funny as the witch cheevo

Author:  Grim... [ Thu Jun 14, 2018 21:07 ]
Post subject:  Re: Fallout 76

Christ, yes.

Author:  myp [ Thu Jun 14, 2018 21:45 ]
Post subject:  Re: Fallout 76

Cras wrote:
Not as funny as the witch cheevo

I joined Malabar and LitlChef for the first time during their "get the witch cheevo" run through and stormed in and got it first try. Rach was not impressed.

Author:  Cras [ Thu Jun 14, 2018 22:50 ]
Post subject:  Re: Fallout 76

Lonewolves wrote:
Cras wrote:
Not as funny as the witch cheevo

I joined Malabar and LitlChef for the first time during their "get the witch cheevo" run through and stormed in and got it first try. Rach was not impressed.


This was when we told Nase there was a specific cheevo for running up to the witch and shooting her in the head with the basic pistol.

Author:  devilman [ Thu Jun 14, 2018 23:23 ]
Post subject:  Re: Fallout 76

Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
Cras wrote:
Note that the only way any game has ever been griefer-proofed, to my knowledge, is private instances.

I can only assume you've somehow never gamed with Mr "I brought a shotgun to a stealth game" Grim....


I like to imagine that's how he plays all games.
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Author:  Cras [ Thu Jun 14, 2018 23:27 ]
Post subject:  Re: Fallout 76

:D :D :D

Author:  Bamba [ Thu Jun 14, 2018 23:36 ]
Post subject:  Re: Fallout 76

Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
nickachu wrote:
Todd seemed to imply the beta would be a way for them to iron out the cracks, and it sounds (from the documentary I linked above) that they'll see what happens for a bit and then adapt from there.

I've listened to a couple of interviews and he sounds rather like a guy making it up as he goes along. I think if they had a grand master plan to make it griefer-proof, he'd be telling people to neutralise the FUD. I think there's a worrying chance this is a shitshow on public servers. I've heard him veering from "death isn't bad, you don't lose any of your stuff, it won't get frustrating" to "we want some drama from PvP." Those are mutually incompatible. There's either something at risk when a player comes after you, or there isn't.


At best this is "we have some genuinely good ideas for a multiplayer game and we want to leverage the Fallout IP for it". At the much more likely worst we have, "We want a multiplayer game because we hear they make much more money and, wait, what's the most popular thing we own..."

Author:  GazChap [ Fri Jun 15, 2018 9:26 ]
Post subject:  Re: Fallout 76

Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
I've listened to a couple of interviews and he sounds rather like a guy making it up as he goes along.

Compared to the interviews with Chris Roberts about Star Citizen, Todd sounds like he's already got everything developed and ready to launch ;)

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