King of the Veungvirregulians!

First of his name!

There's not one thing that the apple watch can do that's worth the extra money.

Change my mind, fanboys

Apple Pay. It unlocks my laptop automatically. It always shows my next meeting at a glance. It runs a Pomodoro style productivity app that taps me on the wrist when my 25 minutes are up. It has a realtime stock ticker, which allowed me to precisely time selling some shares last month and helped save me thousands of pounds. I can use it to check into somewhere on Foursquare without getting my phone out. It shows the timezone in California so I know when the people I need to talk to there will get to the office without doing timezone arithmetic. I can tap a button on it to turn my living room lights on and off. When I'm listening to music at my desk and a colleague walks up, I can pause music playback with it without having to reach over to where my phone is on charge. When I get on the Tube, I can power up my Bluetooth headphones and use it to resume playback of a podcast without getting my phone out of my pocket (if there's even room to do so, which where sometimes isn't on my commute.)

I'm not a fanboy.

How many of those things don't have a Wear equivalent?

Apple Pay. It unlocks my laptop automatically. It always shows my next meeting at a glance. It runs a Pomodoro style productivity app that taps me on the wrist when my 25 minutes are up. It has a realtime stock ticker, which allowed me to precisely time selling some shares last month and helped save me thousands of pounds. I can use it to check into somewhere on Foursquare without getting my phone out. It shows the timezone in California so I know when the people I need to talk to there will get to the office without doing timezone arithmetic. I can tap a button on it to turn my living room lights on and off. When I'm listening to music at my desk and a colleague walks up, I can pause music playback with it without having to reach over to where my phone is on charge. When I get on the Tube, I can power up my Bluetooth headphones and use it to resume playback of a podcast without getting my phone out of my pocket (if there's even room to do so, which where sometimes isn't on my commute.)

I'm not a fanboy.

Pfff... sounds like you're reaching there

I literally work for Android though.

It runs a Pomodoro style productivity app that taps me on the wrist when my 25 minutes are up.

When I'm listening to music at my desk and a colleague walks up, I can pause music playback with it without having to reach over to where my phone is on charge. When I get on the Tube, I can power up my Bluetooth headphones and use it to resume playback of a podcast without getting my phone out of my pocket (if there's even room to do so, which where sometimes isn't on my commute.)

I can do those things with my Bip!

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=cz.zdenekhorak.amazfittools&hl=en_GB

Which one have you got Mark? Is it this one?
https://www.amazon.co.uk/YIMITECH-Smart ... B07919KHVT

or this one, which appears to be £20 cheaper for the same thing and I have no idea if I'm missing something...
https://www.amazon.co.uk/MI-Amazfit-Glo ... 07BHJRFH7/

I can do those things with my Bip!

How entrenched are you with Apple and iOS gear in general?

Would it be a massive wrench if the bossman (men? persons?) decreed that all google employees stop using Apple products? I'm fully aware that they won't ever do that, but I hear that Apple frowns upon employees using android stuff.

Can you resume podcast playback if you did something else in the meantime? I only podcast on my commute, so inbetween I've been listening to Spotify on my phone. So if the Bip sends a "resume playback" command it'll get music, not podcasts. I'd be surprised if it can invoke a specific app.

I actually use an iOS podcast app (Overcast) with a full, customised Watch app. I can select podcasts, skip forward/back by 30 seconds, etc.

I got mine from here:

https://www.gearbest.com/smart-watches/ ... id=1349303

I got mine from here:

https://www.gearbest.com/smart-watches/ ... id=1349303

Did you get charged import duty on it?

Apple Pay. It unlocks my laptop automatically. It always shows my next meeting at a glance. It runs a Pomodoro style productivity app that taps me on the wrist when my 25 minutes are up. It has a realtime stock ticker, which allowed me to precisely time selling some shares last month and helped save me thousands of pounds. I can use it to check into somewhere on Foursquare without getting my phone out. It shows the timezone in California so I know when the people I need to talk to there will get to the office without doing timezone arithmetic. I can tap a button on it to turn my living room lights on and off. When I'm listening to music at my desk and a colleague walks up, I can pause music playback with it without having to reach over to where my phone is on charge. When I get on the Tube, I can power up my Bluetooth headphones and use it to resume playback of a podcast without getting my phone out of my pocket (if there's even room to do so, which where sometimes isn't on my commute.)

I'm not a fanboy.

Let’s not forget that all your movements, choices and usage data won’t be monetised or sold

So I ordered one of those fit bip things from gearbest on the 23rd. Despite the product page saying it takes on average 3 days to go from paid to processing, I still haven't heard anything nearly 4 weeks later. My support ticket yesterday got an absolutely useless reply telling me the item was in stock(?!) and when I pointed out that this didn't answer my query (why am I still waiting after over 3 weeks and when can I expect them to ship it) they replied with the same comment basically re-worded. So I've cancelled the order and still don't have a fitness watch.

I'm still loving the Bip, BTW. I've charged it once since I got it. I've found a pretty sweet custom watchface that shows everything I need to know at a glance. Great bit of kit.

Is this the one that you can get the Goldeneye interface for? If it is, that's enough to push me over the edge.

For 79p I can get it for my Gear, too.