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| Author: | Cras [ Tue Mar 06, 2018 16:58 ] |
| Post subject: | Non-gaming PC hardware thread |
I don't think we have a thread like this currently. I'm not particularly abreast of what's a good buy hardware wise right now, so it's time for an RMD. I'm looking for home office kit, pretty much. Up to date hardware where possible, but I'm not going to be doing any video editing or any gaming beyond the odd bit of indie shit in Steam, so there's no point in investing lots in bleeding edge hardware or graphics cards. Probably something like an i5 or equivalent, 8/16GB RAM, and a mid-size SSD (I've got tons of NAS space). So what's good value right now in PCs and panels? |
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| Author: | DavPaz [ Tue Mar 06, 2018 17:07 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Non-gaming PC hardware thread |
You should get an all-in-one. Maybe even an iMac. |
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| Author: | MaliA [ Tue Mar 06, 2018 17:09 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Non-gaming PC hardware thread |
Just get a mac. They are so much better than a PC as a one stop box. |
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| Author: | Cras [ Tue Mar 06, 2018 17:09 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Non-gaming PC hardware thread |
Gotta be windows, but otherwise I'm not averse to all in one type systems. |
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| Author: | Grim... [ Tue Mar 06, 2018 17:09 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Non-gaming PC hardware thread |
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| Author: | Doctor Glyndwr [ Tue Mar 06, 2018 17:10 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Non-gaming PC hardware thread |
MaliA wrote: Just get a mac. They are so much better than a PC as a one stop box. Craster is the only person I know who got a Mac, wiped it, and installed Windows. He is in thrall to BillG. He will never change. He has no truck with Unix. |
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| Author: | Squirt [ Tue Mar 06, 2018 17:13 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Non-gaming PC hardware thread |
Something something something LEDs something something. |
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| Author: | DavPaz [ Tue Mar 06, 2018 17:16 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Non-gaming PC hardware thread |
Cras wrote: Gotta be windows, but otherwise I'm not averse to all in one type systems. I like the Acer all in ones... https://www.acer.com/ac/en/GB/content/series/aspireu27 But we keep ordering Dells 
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| Author: | ApplePieOfDestiny [ Tue Mar 06, 2018 17:16 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Non-gaming PC hardware thread |
Ha Cra$ loves m$ |
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| Author: | Doctor Glyndwr [ Tue Mar 06, 2018 17:18 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Non-gaming PC hardware thread |
Cras wrote: Gotta be windows, but otherwise I'm not averse to all in one type systems. Surface Studio dooooo iiiittt |
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| Author: | Cras [ Tue Mar 06, 2018 17:18 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Non-gaming PC hardware thread |
Doctor Glyndwr wrote: MaliA wrote: Just get a mac. They are so much better than a PC as a one stop box. Craster is the only person I know who got a Mac, wiped it, and installed Windows. He is in thrall to BillG. He will never change. He has no truck with Unix. Fucking right. |
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| Author: | DavPaz [ Tue Mar 06, 2018 17:21 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Non-gaming PC hardware thread |
Doctor Glyndwr wrote: Cras wrote: Gotta be windows, but otherwise I'm not averse to all in one type systems. Surface Studio dooooo iiiittt Oooh, yeah. Do that! |
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| Author: | MaliA [ Tue Mar 06, 2018 17:22 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Non-gaming PC hardware thread |
Cras wrote: Doctor Glyndwr wrote: MaliA wrote: Just get a mac. They are so much better than a PC as a one stop box. Craster is the only person I know who got a Mac, wiped it, and installed Windows. He is in thrall to BillG. He will never change. He has no truck with Unix. Fucking right. It is really weird for beginners when successful commands complete with no output. |
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| Author: | MrChris [ Tue Mar 06, 2018 17:24 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Non-gaming PC hardware thread |
Why does a home office need anything specific? Doesn't literally everything run Word and Excel? |
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| Author: | Cras [ Tue Mar 06, 2018 17:25 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Non-gaming PC hardware thread |
Doctor Glyndwr wrote: Cras wrote: Gotta be windows, but otherwise I'm not averse to all in one type systems. Surface Studio dooooo iiiittt Which part of "not bleeding edge home office" suggests I want to spent three grand?! |
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| Author: | Cras [ Tue Mar 06, 2018 17:25 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Non-gaming PC hardware thread |
MrChris wrote: Why does a home office need anything specific? Doesn't literally everything run Word and Excel? It doesn't. But it specifically doesn't need any of the stuff recommended in the PC gaming hardware thread. |
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| Author: | ApplePieOfDestiny [ Tue Mar 06, 2018 17:30 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Non-gaming PC hardware thread |
Cras wrote: Doctor Glyndwr wrote: Cras wrote: Gotta be windows, but otherwise I'm not averse to all in one type systems. Surface Studio dooooo iiiittt Which part of "not bleeding edge home office" suggests I want to spent three grand?! You don’t want to. But you should. |
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| Author: | Doctor Glyndwr [ Tue Mar 06, 2018 17:31 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Non-gaming PC hardware thread |
Cras wrote: Which part of "not bleeding edge home office" suggests I want to spent three grand?! It’s got a 965M! It’s very definitely not bleeding edge so fulfills 100% of the project brief. |
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| Author: | Doctor Glyndwr [ Tue Mar 06, 2018 17:31 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Non-gaming PC hardware thread |
Cras wrote: It doesn't. But it specifically doesn't need any of the stuff recommended in the PC gaming hardware thread. I’m struggling to see any difference apart from GPU. |
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| Author: | Zardoz [ Tue Mar 06, 2018 17:34 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Non-gaming PC hardware thread |
Controversially, I've been musing over what the minimum spec gaming PC would cost. To be able to play say Day Z with reasonable settings. Should I split myself out? |
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| Author: | Grim... [ Tue Mar 06, 2018 18:03 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Non-gaming PC hardware thread |
http://www.dell.com/en-uk/shop/desktops ... op/cd66202 Bosh |
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| Author: | Bamba [ Tue Mar 06, 2018 18:04 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Non-gaming PC hardware thread |
Help us out (and yourself, otherwise you'll get £3K machines shouted at you as is happening already): what's your rough budget here |
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| Author: | Zardoz [ Tue Mar 06, 2018 18:11 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Non-gaming PC hardware thread |
Me or Craster? If me then under £500. Grim... was that for me? If so x (although it's not very jaggy for a gaming PC, all the gaming ones are really jaggy) |
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| Author: | Cras [ Tue Mar 06, 2018 18:12 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Non-gaming PC hardware thread |
Bamba wrote: Help us out (and yourself, otherwise you'll get £3K machines shouted at you as is happening already): what's your rough budget here Under a grand with a panel, ideally. I am flexible though. |
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| Author: | Cras [ Tue Mar 06, 2018 18:14 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Non-gaming PC hardware thread |
Zardoz wrote: Me or Craster? If me then under £500. Grim... was that for me? If so x (although it's not very jaggy for a gaming PC, all the gaming ones are really jaggy) OMG the thread title literally says non-gaming. GTFO |
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| Author: | Zardoz [ Tue Mar 06, 2018 18:18 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Non-gaming PC hardware thread |
You do know what forum this is, right? |
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| Author: | Cras [ Tue Mar 06, 2018 18:21 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Non-gaming PC hardware thread |
Grim... wrote: http://www.dell.com/en-uk/shop/desktops-and-all-in-ones/inspiron-desktop/spd/inspiron-3662-desktop/cd66202 Bosh I mean, thanks for "Dell Make Desktops FYI", but what do I want? They have iX-7XXX series CPUs, is it worth getting the 8XXX series or are they not worth the expense? Are they good value for the price? |
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| Author: | Mr Dave [ Tue Mar 06, 2018 18:29 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Non-gaming PC hardware thread |
Cras wrote: I don't think we have a thread like this currently. I'm not particularly abreast of what's a good buy hardware wise right now, so it's time for an RMD. I'm looking for home office kit, pretty much. Up to date hardware where possible, but I'm not going to be doing any video editing or any gaming beyond the odd bit of indie shit in Steam, so there's no point in investing lots in bleeding edge hardware or graphics cards. Probably something like an i5 or equivalent, 8/16GB RAM, and a mid-size SSD (I've got tons of NAS space). So what's good value right now in PCs and panels? https://www.amazon.co.uk/Xbox-Elite-Con ... dpSrc=srch |
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| Author: | myp [ Tue Mar 06, 2018 18:45 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Non-gaming PC hardware thread |
Zardoz wrote: Controversially, I've been musing over what the minimum spec gaming PC would cost. To be able to play say PUBG with reasonable settings. Should I split myself out? Fixed |
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| Author: | Grim... [ Tue Mar 06, 2018 19:15 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Non-gaming PC hardware thread |
Cras wrote: Grim... wrote: http://www.dell.com/en-uk/shop/desktops-and-all-in-ones/inspiron-desktop/spd/inspiron-3662-desktop/cd66202 Bosh I mean, thanks for "Dell Make Desktops FYI", but what do I want? They have iX-7XXX series CPUs, is it worth getting the 8XXX series or are they not worth the expense? Are they good value for the price? That one I linked to? Click "buy". It's not especially good value, but it's plenty of PC for your needs. And you're lazy 
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| Author: | Cras [ Tue Mar 06, 2018 19:28 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Non-gaming PC hardware thread |
Jesus, the one you linked to is a Pentium! |
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| Author: | Grim... [ Tue Mar 06, 2018 19:31 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Non-gaming PC hardware thread |
Either you only want it for Word or you don't. That Pentium can run Chrome - three simultaneous tabs! Get this one if you need an "i" in your processor: http://www.dell.com/en-uk/shop/desktops ... op/cd66825 |
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| Author: | myp [ Tue Mar 06, 2018 19:43 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Non-gaming PC hardware thread |
Incredible scenes. |
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| Author: | Doctor Glyndwr [ Tue Mar 06, 2018 19:45 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Non-gaming PC hardware thread |
Grim... wrote: That Pentium can run Chrome - three simultaneous tabs! Are you sure? It only has 8 GB of RAM. |
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| Author: | myp [ Tue Mar 06, 2018 19:46 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Non-gaming PC hardware thread |
Doctor Glyndwr wrote: Grim... wrote: That Pentium can run Chrome - three simultaneous tabs! Are you sure? It only has 8 GB of RAM. I only have 8GB of RAM. 
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| Author: | MaliA [ Tue Mar 06, 2018 20:08 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Non-gaming PC hardware thread |
Lonewolves wrote: Doctor Glyndwr wrote: Grim... wrote: That Pentium can run Chrome - three simultaneous tabs! Are you sure? It only has 8 GB of RAM. I only have 8GB of RAM. ME TOO |
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| Author: | myp [ Tue Mar 06, 2018 20:12 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Non-gaming PC hardware thread |
Funnily enough RAM isn't my issue at the moment. I think I need a new CPU though as it regularly states I am at 100% usage. |
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| Author: | Grim... [ Tue Mar 06, 2018 20:20 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Non-gaming PC hardware thread |
Check for websites doing crypto mining. |
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| Author: | myp [ Tue Mar 06, 2018 20:36 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Non-gaming PC hardware thread |
Grim... wrote: Check for websites doing crypto mining. Interesting. How can I do this? I tend to close my browser windows when I'm not using them out of habit as iRacing is pretty CPU intensive and so is Firefox. |
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| Author: | DavPaz [ Tue Mar 06, 2018 20:44 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Non-gaming PC hardware thread |
open task manager. See if <browser.exe> is still running and hoovering up RAM and CPU time. |
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| Author: | Cras [ Tue Mar 06, 2018 20:45 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Non-gaming PC hardware thread |
Also msiexec, in case windows update is doing background sneakiness. |
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| Author: | myp [ Tue Mar 06, 2018 21:14 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Non-gaming PC hardware thread |
DavPaz wrote: open task manager. See if <browser.exe> is still running and hoovering up RAM and CPU time. Not really. 
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| Author: | myp [ Tue Mar 06, 2018 21:15 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Non-gaming PC hardware thread |
Cras wrote: Also msiexec, in case windows update is doing background sneakiness. Not sure which option to choose. But nothing seems to be running. |
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| Author: | JohnCoffey [ Tue Mar 06, 2018 22:03 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Non-gaming PC hardware thread |
Lonewolves wrote: Grim... wrote: Check for websites doing crypto mining. Interesting. How can I do this? I tend to close my browser windows when I'm not using them out of habit as iRacing is pretty CPU intensive and so is Firefox. Look at your CPU usage. If it is jammed at 100% close Chrome and see what happens... I had the issue recently with a "questionable" football stream. Thing is, with 14 cores and 28 threads I soon notice it, because the back of my PC turns into a storage heater.. I now use MinerBlock and Nocoin attachments for Chrome. That stopped it. |
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| Author: | myp [ Tue Mar 06, 2018 22:27 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Non-gaming PC hardware thread |
I can't close Chrome.
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| Author: | Mr Dave [ Tue Mar 06, 2018 22:30 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Non-gaming PC hardware thread |
Try rebooting. (Also, use something like process explorer and close the entire tree. If something stops this, you should see what causes it) |
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| Author: | Sir Taxalot [ Tue Mar 06, 2018 22:44 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Non-gaming PC hardware thread |
Do you need to run games on it too? Maybe Zardoz could help, I hear he's looking to buy something new. |
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| Author: | DavPaz [ Tue Mar 06, 2018 22:49 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Non-gaming PC hardware thread |
Lonewolves wrote: I can't close Chrome. Not a good sign. |
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| Author: | myp [ Tue Mar 06, 2018 22:50 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Non-gaming PC hardware thread |
DavPaz wrote: Lonewolves wrote: I can't close Chrome. Not a good sign. Would be weirder if I could close an application I don't have installed. |
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| Author: | DavPaz [ Tue Mar 06, 2018 23:17 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Non-gaming PC hardware thread |
Lonewolves wrote: DavPaz wrote: Lonewolves wrote: I can't close Chrome. Not a good sign. Would be weirder if I could close an application I don't have installed. I get it now. |
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