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Author:  asfish [ Tue Dec 05, 2017 20:41 ]
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Quote:
Jimmy Saville was never convicted in a court.


He did die before all of his abuse came to light!

Author:  MaliA [ Tue Dec 05, 2017 20:44 ]
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asfish wrote:
Quote:
Jimmy Saville was never convicted in a court.


He did die before all of his abuse came to light!


Because nobody spoke out, as he was in a position of power. Which is sort of a point here

Author:  LewieP [ Sat Dec 23, 2017 11:09 ]
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Max Landis accused of having beaten up several women. Seemingly those he was in abusive relationships with.

Fourth high profile instance of something along these lines from Netflix in the last few months, right? I wonder if it's them being new kids on the block and not having policies to combat this stuff. Or maybe not being as experienced in covering it up. Or not having as many establishment connections etc.

Author:  myp [ Sat Dec 23, 2017 11:29 ]
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A lot of people said he was a complete arsehole which was enough to put me off watching Dirk Gently, so I'm not entirely surprised by this.

Author:  LewieP [ Sat Dec 23, 2017 11:34 ]
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Yeah Chronicle was good, but rest of his work I've seen has been pretty bad.

And from what I've seen him voluntarily say/do publicly I thought he was probably a bit of a jerk, so hearing these allegations about his private life didn't come as much of a surprise.

Being the son of a famous Hollywood director is probably somewhat conducive to thinking you can get away with anything. Kinda feels like he's fallen upward for most of his career.

Author:  Mimi [ Thu Jan 11, 2018 10:37 ]
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Closest fitting thread I could find: I Made the Pizza Cinnamon Rolls from Mario Batali’s Sexual Misconduct Apology Letter

Author:  Trousers [ Thu Jan 11, 2018 10:54 ]
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Mimi wrote:


I just read that after you Tweeted it and thought it was excellent. Not the rolls though.

The Scroobius Pip Distraction Pieces podcast with Lena Heady covers the subject well - Lena Heady seems to be a bit awesome.

Author:  myp [ Sun Jan 14, 2018 23:32 ]
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Aziz Ansari. :'(

https://babe.net/2018/01/13/aziz-ansari ... ssion=true

Author:  Grim... [ Mon Jan 15, 2018 1:12 ]
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Eliza "Faith off Buffy" Dushku was apparently assaulted on the set of True Lies by her stunt coordinator.

https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/20 ... llegations

She was twelve.

Author:  Cras [ Mon Jan 15, 2018 2:02 ]
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Fucking hell

Author:  DavPaz [ Tue Jan 16, 2018 14:50 ]
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Lonewolves wrote:


https://mobile.nytimes.com/2018/01/15/o ... sment.html

Author:  Curiosity [ Tue Jan 16, 2018 14:58 ]
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That New York Times article completely ignores that even AFTER she had said ‘no’ he continued to push for sex and try to manipulate her into it. It says he stopped at that point.

Which does seem to somewhat cheapen their point that he’s fine because he stopped as soon as she said she was uncomfortable.

Author:  myp [ Tue Jan 16, 2018 15:31 ]
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Curiosity wrote:
That New York Times article completely ignores that even AFTER she had said ‘no’ he continued to push for sex and try to manipulate her into it. It says he stopped at that point.

Which does seem to somewhat cheapen their point that he’s fine because he stopped as soon as she said she was uncomfortable.

:this:

Author:  Grim... [ Fri Feb 02, 2018 23:37 ]
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Bill S. Preston :(

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/ ... ar-1081204

Author:  Curiosity [ Sat Feb 03, 2018 10:57 ]
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Grim... wrote:


In case anyone doesn't click the link, it's him revealing he was abused, not him being accused.

Author:  Pundabaya [ Sat Feb 03, 2018 21:24 ]
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Curiosity wrote:
Grim... wrote:


In case anyone doesn't click the link, it's him revealing he was abused, not him being accused.


Yeah, I think everyone's heart sank when Grim.. posted that.

And then were relieved when it just turned out he'd been horribly sexually abused when he was a kid.

Which says something about the human condition.

Author:  Mr Dave [ Sun Feb 04, 2018 9:01 ]
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Pundabaya wrote:
Curiosity wrote:
Grim... wrote:


In case anyone doesn't click the link, it's him revealing he was abused, not him being accused.


Yeah, I think everyone's heart sank when Grim.. posted that.

I thought it was the deathless thread.

Author:  Grim... [ Sun Feb 04, 2018 13:12 ]
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Well, he is a vampire.

Author:  Mimi [ Tue Dec 25, 2018 13:45 ]
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So, what the heck is Kevin Spacey doing?

Author:  Dr Zoidberg [ Tue Dec 25, 2018 13:49 ]
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Going for all-out creepy.

Author:  Mimi [ Tue Dec 25, 2018 13:55 ]
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I think he’s eclipsed creepy. This is some new level of weird.

Author:  LewieP [ Tue Dec 25, 2018 14:17 ]
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I half expected him to pull out a gun and suicide at the end of the video.

I hope he stays in character for the court case (s).

Author:  Doctor Glyndwr [ Tue Dec 25, 2018 14:29 ]
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Mimi wrote:
So, what the heck is Kevin Spacey doing?

Trying to dig himself out of a PR hole so deep he can’t see the sun by (checks notes) deliberately entangling his own public persona with that of a famous character he played who, by any reasonable moral or legal standard, was an evil shithead.

It’s a bold strategy, Cotton. Let’s watch it not pay off.

Author:  Mimi [ Tue Dec 25, 2018 14:34 ]
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Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
Mimi wrote:
So, what the heck is Kevin Spacey doing?

Trying to dig himself out of a PR hole so deep he can’t see the sun by (checks notes) deliberately entangling his own public persona with that of a famous character he played who, by any reasonable moral or legal standard, was an evil shithead.

It’s a bold strategy, Cotton. Let’s watch it not pay off.

Well, yes, but how can he be so deluded as to think that this is a tactic that will in any way play in his favour?

Mind you... he also claimed he was mugged on a 4:30 dog walk that time, so he’s got some odd ideas of what he can get away with.

Maybe because he did get away with reprehensible things, perhaps... allegedly.

Author:  Hearthly [ Tue Dec 25, 2018 18:01 ]
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I think he should reprise his role from 'Consenting Adults' and take the stand in character.

Author:  Dr Zoidberg [ Sat Sep 16, 2023 18:15 ]
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To the surprise of nobody at all, Russell Brand has been accused of all sorts of unpleasant shit, up to and including rape.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-66831593

He tried to preempt this by blaming a mainstream media conspiracy against him, which makes me more likely to believe it’s true.

Author:  Findus Fop [ Sat Sep 16, 2023 20:34 ]
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Here's the times story. Pretty grim reading. And he always seemed such a good egg!

https://archive.ph/nS2wu

Author:  Dr Zoidberg [ Sat Sep 16, 2023 21:24 ]
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Several high profile people have come out in support of him.
Lawrence Fox, Andrew Tate and Elon Musk…..

Author:  KovacsC [ Sun Sep 17, 2023 19:13 ]
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Dr Zoidberg wrote:
Several high profile people have come out in support of him.
Lawrence Fox, Andrew Tate and Elon Musk…..


He must be innocent then.

Author:  Warhead [ Sun Sep 17, 2023 21:31 ]
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KovacsC wrote:
Dr Zoidberg wrote:
Several high profile people have come out in support of him.
Lawrence Fox, Andrew Tate and Elon Musk…..


He must be innocent then.


He's always been a nobhead, imo.

Author:  Dimrill [ Mon Sep 18, 2023 11:39 ]
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I'd tried to be excellent regarding the matter, but I failed. I wonder if his bezzie mate N**l F**l***g is going to launch his Twitter "F****dmice" followers onto the victims like he's done several times before.

Author:  Dr Zoidberg [ Mon Sep 18, 2023 12:32 ]
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Warhead wrote:
KovacsC wrote:
Dr Zoidberg wrote:
Several high profile people have come out in support of him.
Lawrence Fox, Andrew Tate and Elon Musk…..


He must be innocent then.


He's always been a nobhead, imo.


I never found him to be at all funny, and he's clearly been drifting into alt-right grifting territory for several years now.

It'll be interesting to see how much of this behaviour was known or suspected, and whether people who absolutely should have known better were turning a bit of a blind eye to it when he was successful

Author:  JohnCoffey [ Mon Sep 18, 2023 13:24 ]
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Wha? no ! he always seemed like such a nice, grounded, well rounded lad to me. Oh, hang on, there was this one time....

https://www.ladbible.com/news/russell-b ... v-20221022

Author:  Satsuma [ Mon Sep 18, 2023 14:08 ]
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Dimrill wrote:
I'd tried to be excellent regarding the matter, but I failed. I wonder if his bezzie mate N**l F**l***g is going to launch his Twitter "F****dmice" followers onto the victims like he's done several times before.


The same guy who was dating a 16 year old Pixie Geldoff when he was in his thirties?

Author:  Dimrill [ Mon Sep 18, 2023 14:36 ]
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Satsuma wrote:
Dimrill wrote:
I'd tried to be excellent regarding the matter, but I failed. I wonder if his bezzie mate N**l F**l***g is going to launch his Twitter "F****dmice" followers onto the victims like he's done several times before.


The same guy who was dating a 16 year old Pixie Geldoff when he was in his thirties?


Blimey, I hadn't heard that. What an excellent person! I'm sure he's happy now mooing in his moom voice about cakes and "look what I'm wearing! I'm mad, me!" comedy.

Author:  Mimi [ Mon Sep 18, 2023 16:11 ]
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I read about the Pixie Geldof relationship today (as far as I can tell there is no suggestion of wrongdoing in the way there is with Brand, but from the little I know of Geldof she was likely quite vulnerable as well as, obviously, very young), but what’s the other stuff you are referring to, Dimmers? I remember you referencing it once before, and I went on quite an extensive Google but couldn’t find anything (because my search terms were too vague, I think, as I didn’t know what I was really trying to find out).

Author:  JohnCoffey [ Mon Sep 18, 2023 16:32 ]
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Satsuma wrote:
Dimrill wrote:
I'd tried to be excellent regarding the matter, but I failed. I wonder if his bezzie mate N**l F**l***g is going to launch his Twitter "F****dmice" followers onto the victims like he's done several times before.


The same guy who was dating a 16 year old Pixie Geldoff when he was in his thirties?


Ohhh. Maybe that is why Bob called him a cunt.

Edit. Yeah I bet it was. Bob called him a cunt in 2006 at an award show. At the time Pixie would have been 16, given she was born in 1990.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RwzDyQRARE0&t=85s

"Russell Brand, what a cunt".

Author:  Dimrill [ Mon Sep 18, 2023 16:47 ]
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Mimi wrote:
I read about the Pixie Geldof relationship today (as far as I can tell there is no suggestion of wrongdoing in the way there is with Brand, but from the little I know of Geldof she was likely quite vulnerable as well as, obviously, very young), but what’s the other stuff you are referring to, Dimmers? I remember you referencing it once before, and I went on quite an extensive Google but couldn’t find anything (because my search terms were too vague, I think, as I didn’t know what I was really trying to find out).


Cookdandbombd did an article probably about 10 years ago now about celebs using their fanbase to hound people. MooMoo was one of them after he used the term "retarded" in a tweet and someone pulled him up on his choice of words. He then sent his mob out after them. The person at the receiving end had depression and they tried, unsuccessfully thank thor, to commit suicide. As their one avenue of interacting with the world became a cesspit of people insulting them and sending death threats. All gleefully watched over by the horrible twat.

S*m*n P#*g also did it to a reviewer who'd given one of his films a bit of a bad review. Belatedly he regretted his actions the next day and apologised to the reviewer and asked his followers to calm down. But that horse had already bolted.

The person who came out the best was Charlie Brooker, who, when addressing negative tweets he received, redacted the username in order to keep things civil and nonwitchuntery. Class bloke. Of course that spurred on a subset of trolls upset that their fleeting moment of recognition was taken away from them by such redactions.

Author:  Mimi [ Mon Sep 18, 2023 17:04 ]
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Grim reading. Blinkered canvases are such a weird thing. I can’t think of anyone I like so much that if people started saying ‘hey, this person did some BAD stuff’ that I’d overlook it for their work or because I really thought their YouTube channel was great :s

I mean, sure I’d be disappointed as heck if Attenborough was an awful person or Toksvig did some awful stuff, but I’d not rally around to defend them regardless.

Author:  Warhead [ Mon Sep 18, 2023 17:08 ]
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Who is MooMoo?

Author:  GazChap [ Mon Sep 18, 2023 18:45 ]
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I'm not sure, but I think they're both justified and ancient.

Author:  Mimi [ Mon Sep 18, 2023 19:51 ]
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Giphy "ice cream van":
https://media3.giphy.com/media/FUy2i1uHNOVOvtPkNg/giphy-loop.mp4

Author:  Mimi [ Mon Sep 18, 2023 19:53 ]
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Of course it’s knitted

Author:  Dimrill [ Tue Sep 19, 2023 0:02 ]
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Warhead wrote:
Who is MooMoo?


Someone who now looks at cakes and I'd rather not type his name as his fanbase scour the net for references to him. Excellently, of course

Mimi wrote:
Grim reading. Blinkered canvases are such a weird thing. I can’t think of anyone I like so much that if people started saying ‘hey, this person did some BAD stuff’ that I’d overlook it for their work or because I really thought their YouTube channel was great


Ain't that the truth. I can't watch cake show anymore. The sole programme I've watched with the fucker on it was Taskmaster. And I did that through gritted teeth.

I forgot that the office dance bastard had also done it. Not surprising really.

The article is on the Wayback Machine if someone was so inclined to read it. Not linking it because... well.

Author:  DavPaz [ Tue Sep 19, 2023 6:03 ]
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Warhead wrote:
Who is MooMoo?

Edmonds at second slip (4,8)

Author:  Grim... [ Tue Sep 19, 2023 11:39 ]
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DavPaz wrote:
Warhead wrote:
Who is MooMoo?

Edmonds at second slip (4,8)

:claps:

Author:  Warhead [ Tue Sep 19, 2023 12:41 ]
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Dimrill wrote:
Warhead wrote:
Who is MooMoo?


Someone who now looks at cakes and I'd rather not type his name as his fanbase scour the net for references to him. Excellently, of course

...............


Understood. The world is getting crazier every day.

Author:  Mimi [ Fri Sep 22, 2023 11:27 ]
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Watched the Channel 4 Dispatches about this a few days ago. Though it is *horrible*, and shocking, it’s just so unsurprising. Like Saville, he spent most of his career telling everyone what he was doing, and that era of brash, taking advantage of anyone who was vulnerable ‘comedy’ was defended as a laddish laugh and you couldn’t complain about it in casual conversation as you were either deemed too thick to understand why it was funny or without a sense of humour. Same goes for Ricky Gervais and David Walliams & Matt Lucas, and honestly I hope it comes back to slap them down in some way.

One thing did come up, I can’t remember if in the documentary or mentioned elsewhere, but it was on this whole ‘Sachsgate’ thing. When the apologies came, the apologies were made to Andrew Sachs, NOT to his granddaughter. In the Dispatches episode, she said that he (Sachs) subsequently didn’t speak to his granddaughter for *eight years*. There may have been some other dynamics at play, but on the surface that’s some world class victim blaming there.

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