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 Post subject: Re: General Election 2017
PostPosted: Sat Jun 10, 2017 7:23 
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From the BBC

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The DUP are pro-union (not Europe but UK), pro-Brexit and socially conservative.
The party, which returned 10 MPs to Westminster, has garnered a reputation for its strong, sometimes controversial views.
It opposes same-sex marriage and is anti-abortion - abortion remains illegal in Northern Ireland, except in specific medical cases.
One MP is a devout climate change denier, while a former MP once called for creationism - the belief that human life did not evolve over millions of years but was created by God - to be taught alongside evolution in science classes.


Worse than UKIP! Still, May can look forward to better relations with Trump now she has these nutters on board.


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 Post subject: Re: General Election 2017
PostPosted: Sat Jun 10, 2017 8:32 
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Chris Leslie, former shadow chancellor said on today (lifted from Graun):

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There’s fantastic results … but the Conservatives got 318 seats; that means they’re going to be able to form a government.

We haven’t won that election. He [Corbyn] did very well in some areas … but I come back to the point: we haven’t won that election. We shouldn’t pretend this is a famous victory.

Five years of a Conservative government: I can’t, I’m afraid, be a cheerleader for that outcome.


And he is right, Labour are still in opposition, which'll keep Momentum happy, and I fear the Tory government will get stronger as we start a new chapter of Corbyn mishaps. I think it's great to laugh, and take the piss out of what turns out to be dreadful decisions by May, but, she's still top dog. We shouldn't be cheering second place quite so loudly. As Dom says in the philosophical 4 acts of The Fast and the Furious "It don't matter if you win by an inch or a mile. Winning's winning" and Labour hasn't won.

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On what planet will this government survive five years.


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 Post subject: Re: General Election 2017
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I don't think they will but I also am not totally convinced that Labour can win an outright majority either. Either way I don't envy the task of anyone trying to plot their way forward with this electorate. It seems a bit like trying to second guess the whims and moods of a fucking toddler. They whined and whined and got their precious Brexit but now that toy is just sat in the corner taking up space, but they'd still throw an absolute shit fit if you tried to throw it away.


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 Post subject: Re: General Election 2017
PostPosted: Sat Jun 10, 2017 9:16 
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We accept that May was weak prior to calling the election, and got weaker as the campaign wore on. Her replacement will be stronger, and much better organised.

Corbyn started off weak, bit seemed to get stronger in the final furlongs. But, that's relative to a Conservative campaign described as a "pig's ear".

A massive turnout, which helped Labour, probably won't rematerialise a second time, and the SNP are settling in their normalised seat numbers. The Tory party can regroup, replan and come back stronger. Labour won't.

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 Post subject: Re: General Election 2017
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We accept that May was weak prior to calling the election, and got weaker as the campaign wore on. Her replacement will be stronger, and much better organised.

Corbyn started off weak, bit seemed to get stronger in the final furlongs. But, that's relative to a Conservative campaign described as a "pig's ear".

A massive turnout, which helped Labour, probably won't rematerialise a second time, and the SNP are settling in their normalised seat numbers. The Tory party can regroup, replan and come back stronger. Labour won't.


That's one way it could pan out, or alternatively the PLP could now get behind Corbyn and a proper left wing agenda, sort out the front benches with some competent performers, and build on the momentum (no pun intended) they've gathered at this election, and start to think about who they want their next leader to be.

The Tory base is old and literally dying, Labour has energised a new generation of voters, and history shows that once people are politically engaged, they stay so.

A very smart move for Corbyn now IMO would be to reach out to the Blairite wing of the party, and get some of those faces in his shadow cabinet. He's proven that there's a hunger for a real alternative in politics, and that simply fighting over the ever-shifting centre ground isn't the only way, that's a MASSIVE thing as prior to this election that had become pretty much accepted wisdom.

Look at what Corbyn achieved at this election in the face of overwhelming hostility from so many quarters, not least from within his own party. (As I noted back on Page 2 of this thread, imagine how this might have panned out if the party had been united from the start.)

May is a lame duck prime minister heading up a lame duck government that's literally going to be propped up by fucking lunatics.

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 Post subject: Re: General Election 2017
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Lol.

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 Post subject: Re: General Election 2017
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MaliA wrote:
Chris Leslie, former shadow chancellor said on today (lifted from Graun):

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There’s fantastic results … but the Conservatives got 318 seats; that means they’re going to be able to form a government.

We haven’t won that election. He [Corbyn] did very well in some areas … but I come back to the point: we haven’t won that election. We shouldn’t pretend this is a famous victory.

Five years of a Conservative government: I can’t, I’m afraid, be a cheerleader for that outcome.


And he is right, Labour are still in opposition, which'll keep Momentum happy, and I fear the Tory government will get stronger as we start a new chapter of Corbyn mishaps. I think it's great to laugh, and take the piss out of what turns out to be dreadful decisions by May, but, she's still top dog. We shouldn't be cheering second place quite so loudly. As Dom says in the philosophical 4 acts of The Fast and the Furious "It don't matter if you win by an inch or a mile. Winning's winning" and Labour hasn't won.

You have to place it in context I think. It was a big swing towards Labour. They overly defended safe seats because they were worried of getting destroyed due to the inaccurate polls. They gained 3 million more votes than in 2015. This was against a backdrop of huge opposition from the media and Corbyn's own party.

This government won't last 5 years - minority ones last months at best historically. And when there's another GE Labour will feel emboldened enough to go on the attack in marginals next time rather than defending safe seats. Some of the majorities they increased in those (including Chris Leslie's/my constituency) was ridiculous.

But if they want to win, people like Leslie need to support the current leadership team rather than actively work against it like they have for the last two years.

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Reading how the power-sharing executive is currently vacant and only works in NI if you have a neutral UK govt. The other option is Direct Rule which no one will want either. So basically it appears TM is willing to let peace in NI go to hell in a hand basket just to cling onto power.

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 Post subject: Re: General Election 2017
PostPosted: Sat Jun 10, 2017 11:26 
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Great piece here. One of the best things about this election IMO is that the power of the rightwing press is massively diminished, they chucked EVERYTHING at Corbyn, the vilest abuse and lies, and it didn't work.

Fuck The Mail and fuck Paul Dacre.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... ail-labour

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The Mail sells its world of pain based on fear. The attack it tried to sustain over a panicked 13 pages just looked hyperbolic. Instead, the warnings about Labour became ignorable rages. With May refusing to engage, unable to be spontaneous, Corbyn often just appeared pleasant and bemused. Having destroyed Ed Miliband, the tabloids took it for granted it could be done again with a few key words. Tax. Extremist. Terrorist.

The world has moved on. This is not only the end of austerity, it is surely the end of the hankering for Thatcherism that is still the lifeblood of the men who run these papers.

It matters significantly now that they are out of touch. It matters that their relentless negativity did not chime. In this one moment they are cut down to size: not fixers of government, not the high priests of the electorate but strange angry blokes selling seven varieties of hate while ranting to themselves.


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 Post subject: Re: General Election 2017
PostPosted: Sat Jun 10, 2017 11:50 
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MaliA wrote:
Chris Leslie, former shadow chancellor said on today (lifted from Graun):

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There’s fantastic results … but the Conservatives got 318 seats; that means they’re going to be able to form a government.

We haven’t won that election. He [Corbyn] did very well in some areas … but I come back to the point: we haven’t won that election. We shouldn’t pretend this is a famous victory.

Five years of a Conservative government: I can’t, I’m afraid, be a cheerleader for that outcome.


And he is right, Labour are still in opposition, which'll keep Momentum happy, and I fear the Tory government will get stronger as we start a new chapter of Corbyn mishaps. I think it's great to laugh, and take the piss out of what turns out to be dreadful decisions by May, but, she's still top dog. We shouldn't be cheering second place quite so loudly. As Dom says in the philosophical 4 acts of The Fast and the Furious "It don't matter if you win by an inch or a mile. Winning's winning" and Labour hasn't won.


https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... -open-goal

He mentions credibility, which is a hard currency with McDonnel, Abbott and Gardiner in high profule roles in the shadow cabinet. The only one with credibility is Starmer, I think.

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 Post subject: Re: General Election 2017
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The gutter press have less influence because young people don't just believe everything they read. No doubt in part due to being brought up on the internet.


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 Post subject: Re: General Election 2017
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He mentions credibility, which is a hard currency with McDonnel, Abbott and Gardiner in high profule roles in the shadow cabinet. The only one with credibility is Starmer, I think.


Definitely an important issue, but the Tories ought to be there for the taking on that front - they've got... no one. Previously I've always grudgingly respected the kind of 'listen to no one maintain image of power and control' strength tories projected, even the 'softer' ones like Howe, never mind Heseltine, or even the more toxic ones like Archer or Parkinson. But now? Hunt has alienated half the NHS, Grayling screwed the NHS and doesn't understand his current job (to quote Moneybox's Paul Lewis, Grayling was either lying or doesn't understand present care home rules, Leadsom has become invisible (bit of a theme, that) but is in charge of climate change policy, Johnson and disgraced former minister Fox are economical with the truth and safe pair of libertarian crazy hands Davies seems to have gone a bit mad. Labour's talent has absented itself but exists. The Tories had better hope they have a lot of clever people tucked away on the back benches or they're in serious trouble.


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 Post subject: Re: General Election 2017
PostPosted: Sun Jun 11, 2017 8:23 
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A delightful excoriation in The Observer today.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... ay-debacle

Between May and Cameron it's almost impossible to overstate how much damage the 'natural party of government' have done to this country, and I think the British people now see the Tories for what they are.

I'm calling it now, Labour will win the next election.

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One of May’s most prominent attacks on Labour was that a vote for Corbyn was a vote for a coalition of chaos. There is a terrible irony in the fact it is now May who will be forced to rely on an agreement with the DUP in order to govern. Members of a party rooted in conservative Christianity, the DUP’s MPs are some of the most reactionary, socially illiberal voices in parliament. Anti-gay marriage and anti-abortion, the party counts creationists and climate change deniers within its ranks. Any alliance with the DUP would be at odds with efforts by Conservatives to shed their image as the nasty party.

May finds herself in an impossible position. She must respond to the electorate’s rejection of austerity and hard Brexit. There are moderates in her party who will demand it of her. But those to the right of her will try to prevent her from doing so. This election result calls for a far more open style of governing. There is a need to build a coalition in the Commons for a Brexit deal that puts Britain’s economic prosperity first: the obvious arrangement would be continued membership of the single market. Yvette Cooper’s proposal for Brexit talks to be led by a cross-party commission with the Brexit secretary at the helm deserves consideration.

Discredited, humiliated, diminished: May has lost credibility and leverage in her party, her country and across Europe. Where there was respect, there is ridicule; where there was strength, there is weakness; where there was self-assurance, there is doubt. She looks too weak to deliver her manifesto, too vulnerable to tackle dissent and too enfeebled to lead Britain. It is impossible to see her having the influence, authority or credibility to serve her country.


EDIT - Rawnsley's piece is splendid, too.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... d-no-power

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In the time left to her, Mrs May’s fate is to flicker on in Downing Street, dead but not quite buried. She is in office, but not in power. She will not be able to impose her will on government, never mind the country. Britain has a zombie prime minister.


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 Post subject: Re: General Election 2017
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I've noticed few times that the Tories have referred to themselves as "The Conservative and Unionist Party"

Is this to placate the mobilised Celts?


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I think I am going to sit back and watch this shit show unfold, as if it didn't have abjectly terrifying consequences, it'd be hilarious.

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 Post subject: Re: General Election 2017
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I've noticed few times that the Tories have referred to themselves as "The Conservative and Unionist Party"

Is this to placate the mobilised Celts?


Yes, they've been emphasising their full title a lot since the indyref to catch the non-SNP vote even though the '& Unionist' bit originally related to Ireland.


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 Post subject: Re: General Election 2017
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I think I am going to sit back and watch this shit show unfold, as if it didn't have abjectly terrifying consequences, it'd be hilarious.


Oh, it's brilliant. You could almost film a cinematic trilogy, starting with Cameron in 2010 and ending at 22:01 on 5th May 2015, then the referendum farce and his defenestration, then ending on the premiership of Mrs May. I'd totally watch that.


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Watching House of Cards Season 5 was a lot scarier this year.

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Watching House of Cards Season 5 was a lot scarier this year.

And yet a lot less shocking, as I felt I'd seen so much of it play out with Trump.

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Thankfully every single character in House of Cards seems a lot more intelligent and capable than any of Trump's lot, though.


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I feel like rewatching The New Statesman. I reckon Alan B'stard would be more likeable than Teresa May


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MaliA wrote:
I think I am going to sit back and watch this shit show unfold, as if it didn't have abjectly terrifying consequences, it'd be hilarious.


Oh, it's brilliant. You could almost film a cinematic trilogy, starting with Cameron in 2010 and ending at 22:01 on 5th May 2015, then the referendum farce and his defenestration, then ending on the premiership of Mrs May. I'd totally watch that.


Starring Mr Chris as John McDonnel, Cavey as Dennis Skinner, MaliA as George Osbourne, Cras as David Cameron and Myp as Bing.

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MaliA wrote:
I think I am going to sit back and watch this shit show unfold, as if it didn't have abjectly terrifying consequences, it'd be hilarious.


Oh, it's brilliant. You could almost film a cinematic trilogy, starting with Cameron in 2010 and ending at 22:01 on 5th May 2015, then the referendum farce and his defenestration, then ending on the premiership of Mrs May. I'd totally watch that.


Starring Mr Chris as John McDonnel,

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Could you BE anymore insulting?


At least he didn't call you malicool.

That Myp is the most Malicool person on the forum is something of a given now.


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Looks like the DUP are playing hardball a bit, as the Queen's Speach has been delayed...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-40243782

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At least he didn't call you malicool.

That Myp is the most Malicool person on the forum is something of a given now.


I don't think you are in the position to make that call, Mr Dave.

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At least he didn't call you malicool.

That Myp is the most Malicool person on the forum is something of a given now.


I don't think you are in the position to make that call, Mr Dave.

He's more Malicool than anyone I know here. It's possible, I suppose, that someone I've never met - John Coffey, Hearthly etc etc are more Malicool than he is, I will concede.


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I quite fancy the Dennis Skinner gig to be fair. :D

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Looks like the DUP are playing hardball a bit, as the Queen's Speach has been delayed...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-40243782


I got the impression from 'Private Eye' that Brenda wasn't too keen on having her summer programme interrupted by a new Parliament in the first place. She won't be happy about this.


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I quite fancy the Dennis Skinner gig to be fair. :D


It'll stretch credibility, what with you playing an older guy trying to talk his sense into a room full of braying hotheads who think the time for his ideas has passed, but i think you can do it.

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Watching House of Cards Season 5 was a lot scarier this year.

And yet a lot less shocking, as I felt I'd seen so much of it play out with Trump.

Cracked started a "trump presidency as tv drama" thing, After The Trump http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL ... rDduM6VfjU

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So despite everything I've already conceded, it's still a case of "phew", even now, from a Tory perspective.


Indeed, thank God the Tories are still in, propped up by the lovely people from the DUP. We're saved.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... -power-dup

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The Tories will maintain that abortion is not really a significant issue in the deal with the DUP. The deal is all that matters. Women’s rights and LGBT rights are once again sidelined.

But all of us watching know that reproductive rights are not a side issue. We watch Donald Trump and his cronies legislate over the bodies of women and we know that we have to be vigilant over what we assume to be basic rights. No, this is not The Handmaid’s Tale, we are told, in a “calm down, dear” sort of way, and we should merely accept the DUP’s mix of creationism, misogyny and homophobia as a quirk of coalition. No.

Any government beholden to the DUP represents another step backwards for women. Make no mistake. Belatedly, perhaps, many have woken up to the struggles of women in Northern Ireland.

Now that they have, Theresa May should take off that T-shirt . This is not what a feminist looks like. This is what a woman who would sell out other women looks like. It is the face of betrayal.


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I think that's really taking things out of context (my original comments obv, not your quoted stuff about the DUP). You're angry (which is entirely understandable; *I'm* angry as well); this thing sits very uncomfortably for both of us I have no doubt. I'm not interested in defending bigotry and/or intolerance on any level, and some of the things I've heard these last few days have made my last remaining hairs curl on end.

Ever the optimist I know, but actually I think there could be at least some good aspects to this though? For a start, hard Brexit is well and truly off the table. A large part of May's reasoning to call this election was to strengthen her hand in Parliament with a much larger working majority of Tory MPs, such that those Europhile (or even just Euro moderate) MPs who chose to rebel key votes would not be able to blow anything off course. But a minority government (itself comprising of "pseudo subgroups" like the Scottish Conservatives, who can effectively be regarded as distinctive coalition partners, not part of some homogeneous Conservative Party voting bloc), that's a whole different bag. I was quite a fan of the Con/Lib coalition, far more so than the outright Tory administration that followed it; I think history will judge it/them far more kindly than folks around these parts would ever care to admit/concede. In some ways, I think we're kind of back there now, albeit with some pretty dodgy elements to contend with as well. Even the DUP, though, will absolutely not accept a hard Brexit border with the Republic, so actually in this one specific respect, even they could even be helpful.

In broader terms, a delicate minority administration must be, by definition, vastly more collegiate and inclusive in its approach (if it's to survive), so for now at least, I think we can all forget about hard Right fundamentalist stuff like binning off social care/winter fuel payments and whatever other nonsense was mooted. Brexit is going to be quite enough to be getting on with.

From my side I have serious doubts, though, about how long things will last - I reckon it'll either implode almost immediately within days or a very few weeks, or failing that we might be looking at 1-2 years before the next GE. The massive uncertainty that a hung Parliament brings, not least to plummeting business confidence and grossly weakened negotiating hand with the EU is very much to be regretted, but nothing we can do about that now, I guess.

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I'd agree with the broad thrust of what you're saying there Cavey in some regards, but it's only a slightly comforting side-effect of a fuck-up so big you can see it with the naked eye from space, but the DUP are disgusting and to me this demonstrates how the Tories will just do absolutely bloody anything to cling onto the power they clearly believe they were put on this earth to wield.

So yes, if this neuters the worst excesses of the Brexit that was originally mooted then it's to the good, but then again we need to remember that May went into this election looking for a mandate to take a wrecking ball to the UK economy and the hopes and aspirations of millions of people, especially the young.

The whole thing is a dreadful spectacle, Cameron and now May in the space of a couple of years have proven to be astonishingly reckless, literally gambling with the fate of a nation out of hubris and arrogance.

At least it finally blows apart the lie that the Conservative Party is the 'steady hand of government' or whatever other nonsense they love to trot out on a regular basis.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... y-of-chaos

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Somehow the myth of strong and stable Conservative government persists. For example: time and again, surveys suggest that voters trust the Tories more on the economy, despite the chaos unleashed by the pound-crashing, inflation-inducing referendum. Maybe it’s the patrician bearing of men like Cameron. Or the determined authoritarianism of May. This is unpleasant medicine, but you’re going to take it – it’ll do you good in the end. We know best. We’re the natural party of government, after all.

If the last seven years have taught us anything, it’s that this is pure fantasy – worse, a brazen lie. Forget the rhetoric, forget the home-counties-accountant demeanour of Philip Hammond. These people cannot be trusted to run the country. The record demonstrates clearly that they are the real party of chaos.

In the end it wasn’t Jeremy Corbyn who transported us back to the 1970s, but May. In February 1974 Edward Heath asked “Who Governs?”, before losing an election and paving the way for a second that October. It’s now 2017, but the question seems relevant again. Who do you believe is capable of governing in the national interest? Today’s Conservatives have shown beyond doubt that it isn’t them.


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I think I am going to sit back and watch this shit show unfold, as if it didn't have abjectly terrifying consequences, it'd be hilarious.


Oh, it's brilliant. You could almost film a cinematic trilogy, starting with Cameron in 2010 and ending at 22:01 on 5th May 2015, then the referendum farce and his defenestration, then ending on the premiership of Mrs May. I'd totally watch that.


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I didn't want my me seeing that.

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