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Author:  Mimi [ Thu Jun 08, 2017 15:44 ]
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Squirt wrote:
Mimi wrote:
Squirt wrote:
I've actually been looking at learning old English recently, for an even more useless language than latin. Bera sceal on hæðe, eald and egesfull!

Bear something on the heath(?) old and something. We did a bit of this at school and once you start picking up the alphabet morphing it starts to become understandable for the most part, but you need to almost get yourself into the rhythm and mindset. Is it Beowulf?

It's from Maxims - The bear must be on the heath, old and terrible! It's close enough to modern english that you can sort of work it out by staring at it, almost. My brain doesn't get all the inflexion stuff though.


I think that's it. If you read it aloud (in your head, so to speak... do you 'hear' your voice when you read?) you can understand a lot of it. I remember doing a lot of work on The Great Vowel Shift for A-Level.

Author:  Squirt [ Thu Jun 08, 2017 16:37 ]
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Mimi wrote:
Squirt wrote:
Mimi wrote:
Squirt wrote:
I've actually been looking at learning old English recently, for an even more useless language than latin. Bera sceal on hæðe, eald and egesfull!

Bear something on the heath(?) old and something. We did a bit of this at school and once you start picking up the alphabet morphing it starts to become understandable for the most part, but you need to almost get yourself into the rhythm and mindset. Is it Beowulf?

It's from Maxims - The bear must be on the heath, old and terrible! It's close enough to modern english that you can sort of work it out by staring at it, almost. My brain doesn't get all the inflexion stuff though.


I think that's it. If you read it aloud (in your head, so to speak... do you 'hear' your voice when you read?) you can understand a lot of it. I remember doing a lot of work on The Great Vowel Shift for A-Level.

Ahh, thats a chunk more academic than anything I'm looking at! I just like the idea of talking about mead and spears and swear at people in the language of my distant ancestors!

Author:  MrChris [ Thu Jun 08, 2017 22:05 ]
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Fucking hell the exit polls....

May will be in a ditch with a knife in her back by morning.

Author:  zaphod79 [ Thu Jun 08, 2017 22:06 ]
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Exit polls say a tory win but not a majority

Author:  Findus Fop [ Thu Jun 08, 2017 22:06 ]
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MrChris wrote:
Fucking hell the exit polls....

May will be in a ditch with a knife in her back by morning.


And so ends another night on the lash through the wheat fields.

Author:  MrChris [ Thu Jun 08, 2017 22:07 ]
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Corbyn will be kicking himself he said no coalitions. Tory minority government and another election within months. Fucking fucking hell...brexit is going to be fecked.

Author:  MrChris [ Thu Jun 08, 2017 22:11 ]
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Hilariously, that marketing company "poll" today was the most accurate.

Loving Osborne and Balls on ITV. Better than the "you don't have to be Dimbleby to work here but it helps" BBC.

Author:  MrChris [ Thu Jun 08, 2017 22:12 ]
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And thanks to bobby it's likely even worse.

Author:  MrChris [ Thu Jun 08, 2017 22:12 ]
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And it looks like the DUP will finally matter.

Author:  Curiosity [ Thu Jun 08, 2017 22:13 ]
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I still think the Tories might sneak it.

Could be a long night.

Author:  DavPaz [ Thu Jun 08, 2017 22:19 ]
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Stop raising my hopes, exit polls. We've danced this jig before

Author:  MrChris [ Thu Jun 08, 2017 22:22 ]
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No, the exit polls were broadly right last time. It was the polls beforehand that were all shite. Possibly.

Author:  myp [ Thu Jun 08, 2017 22:24 ]
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Tory leaders self-owning themselves two years running is pretty hilarious though.

Even if they win a slim majority it's no different to 2015 and will be deemed a fucking waste of time.

Author:  MrChris [ Thu Jun 08, 2017 22:25 ]
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Given the effects of it, no, not very hilarious.

Author:  myp [ Thu Jun 08, 2017 22:26 ]
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MrChris wrote:
Given the effects of it, no, not very hilarious.

Very hilarious.

Author:  MrChris [ Thu Jun 08, 2017 22:28 ]
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What, Cameron's self owning leading to brexit is hilarious? Brexit is hilarious?

Author:  MrChris [ Thu Jun 08, 2017 22:29 ]
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Its certainly a very good example of hubris, yes, but hilarious?

Author:  MrChris [ Thu Jun 08, 2017 22:30 ]
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Speaking of hilarious, Mali is giving a good turn on ITV's coverage.

Author:  Cavey [ Thu Jun 08, 2017 22:49 ]
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Ooooooooooooooooooooh shit.
I'm sensing a 5-egg omelette on face moment

Author:  Kern [ Thu Jun 08, 2017 23:02 ]
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Had a board game evening in the pub tonight. Saw the exit poll - jaw dropped further than in 2015. Oh Britain, you never cease to fascinate me. So many DPhils to be written about this decade.

Author:  Kern [ Thu Jun 08, 2017 23:14 ]
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Go away Neil Hamilton. 1997 called: return to your time period.

Author:  TheVision [ Thu Jun 08, 2017 23:19 ]
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I met Neil Hamilton once. I was with my parents and my mom wanted a picture with him... He said to her "Come here, I like them like you". My dad responded "What's that? Old?"

Author:  Kern [ Thu Jun 08, 2017 23:46 ]
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Have a nagging feeling that the Tories will sneak past the line.

Author:  Curiosity [ Thu Jun 08, 2017 23:56 ]
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Cavey wrote:
Ooooooooooooooooooooh shit.
I'm sensing a 5-egg omelette on face moment


I think most of us would have at least 3 eggs if this sticks.

Author:  Kern [ Fri Jun 09, 2017 0:03 ]
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If Oxford West & Abingdon returns to the Lib Dems I'll be very happy.

In other exciting election news, I've just had to do a full channel rescan as C4, CNN, and ITV HD strangely disappeared from my Freesat box. Not that I'm going to watch anything other than BBC1, but it's the principle of the thing.

Author:  Cras [ Fri Jun 09, 2017 0:07 ]
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I've been interviewed four times by weird European news outlets. This is an odd evening

Author:  Kern [ Fri Jun 09, 2017 0:08 ]
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Cras wrote:
I've been interviewed four times by weird European news outlets. This is an odd evening


Ace. You've said different things to each network, right?

Author:  DavPaz [ Fri Jun 09, 2017 0:09 ]
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Cras wrote:
I've been interviewed four times by weird European news outlets. This is an odd evening

I'm guessing you're not in your lounge

Author:  Kern [ Fri Jun 09, 2017 0:10 ]
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I'd planned to be in bed by now...

Author:  zaphod79 [ Fri Jun 09, 2017 0:12 ]
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Kern wrote:
If Oxford West & Abingdon returns to the Lib Dems I'll be very happy.


They got my vote but there a lot of election paperwork through for the torys and they were the only ones to actually knock on doors around here.

Author:  myp [ Fri Jun 09, 2017 0:13 ]
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Still laughing. No matter what happens, May is toast. She's run the laziest, most cynical campaign ever and is reaping the rewards.

Author:  Kern [ Fri Jun 09, 2017 0:13 ]
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zaphod79 wrote:
Kern wrote:
If Oxford West & Abingdon returns to the Lib Dems I'll be very happy.


They got my vote but there a lot of election paperwork through for the torys and they were the only ones to actually knock on doors around here.


I think the Lib Dems were placing their bets on the Oxford West part of the constituency. Things are very different in Abingdon.

Author:  DavPaz [ Fri Jun 09, 2017 0:14 ]
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Did Ken Clark just call the North East the "rust belt"?

Prat.

Author:  Kern [ Fri Jun 09, 2017 0:15 ]
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Lonewolves wrote:
Still laughing. No matter what happens, May is toast. She's run the laziest, most cynical campaign ever and is reaping the rewards.


If she becomes the new Douglas-Hume of Tory leaders I'll be very happy. Still, she hasn't screwed up as much as Eden. Other than that Brexit thing. Oh.

Author:  Kern [ Fri Jun 09, 2017 0:16 ]
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Heck, she could become even more hated than Heath, whose main achievement she's undoing. We might be entering her into the Bonar Law leagues of crap Tory PMs.

Author:  Findus Fop [ Fri Jun 09, 2017 0:19 ]
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Cras wrote:
I've been interviewed four times by weird European news outlets. This is an odd evening

Author:  Kern [ Fri Jun 09, 2017 0:19 ]
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It seems the UKIP vote is returning back to its Tory and Labour homelands. So perhaps we should be comparing against 2010 or 2005 to get a truer picture.

Author:  Kern [ Fri Jun 09, 2017 0:24 ]
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Hoping to see Craster I just flipped over to France24 and have just fallen in love with their in-studio expert.

Author:  Cras [ Fri Jun 09, 2017 0:45 ]
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The only one with video was Swedish :)

Author:  TheVision [ Fri Jun 09, 2017 0:48 ]
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I should be in bed but instead, I'm contemplating a can of Pepsi while I watch the results.

Author:  Kern [ Fri Jun 09, 2017 0:48 ]
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I don't have those channels, alas.

I've been thinking about this a lot, and I honestly believe that had Mrs May said something along the lines of "the referendum vote was too split to go for a hard Brexit, so whilst we'll leave the EU we're going to work to keep a lot of what the 48% like about it whilst also respecting the 52%" she might have been more of a national , unifying figure. But her position in the Tory party was so precarious she couldn't risk holding out an olive branch.

Author:  Kern [ Fri Jun 09, 2017 0:50 ]
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TheVision wrote:
I should be in bed but instead, I'm contemplating a can of Pepsi while I watch the results.


All of a sudden I'm working from home on Friday....

Author:  Malc [ Fri Jun 09, 2017 0:55 ]
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I'd love to work from home, but left my laptop at work, so better go in...

I do plan on staying up though...

Author:  Kern [ Fri Jun 09, 2017 0:56 ]
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I'll be very happy if the SNP lose seats.

Author:  Cras [ Fri Jun 09, 2017 1:06 ]
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Kern wrote:
I don't have those channels, alas.

I've been thinking about this a lot, and I honestly believe that had Mrs May said something along the lines of "the referendum vote was too split to go for a hard Brexit, so whilst we'll leave the EU we're going to work to keep a lot of what the 48% like about it whilst also respecting the 52%" she might have been more of a national , unifying figure. But her position in the Tory party was so precarious she couldn't risk holding out an olive branch.


Her problem was that she tried to outflank /herself/ on the right.

Author:  Malc [ Fri Jun 09, 2017 1:14 ]
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First gain of the night, Labour take Rutherglen and Hamilton West from SNP

Author:  Kern [ Fri Jun 09, 2017 1:14 ]
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265 is the marginal vote to beat...

Author:  Kern [ Fri Jun 09, 2017 1:15 ]
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Cras wrote:
Her problem was that she tried to outflank /herself/ on the right.


Heh, yes.

Author:  myp [ Fri Jun 09, 2017 1:16 ]
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Prick Davies may have lost to the WEP in Bradford! Amber Rudd may be gone!

Author:  Kern [ Fri Jun 09, 2017 1:17 ]
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Lonewolves wrote:
Prick Davies may have lost to the WEP in Bradford!


Don't tell Mali!

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