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I've just remembered Grim... and Crasters high five from the cottage and I think my ear popped.


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I've just remembered Grim... and Crasters high five from the cottage and I think my ear popped.

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So how long before that ridiculous slobbering cunt Johnson takes over the Tory leadership then?


I think that'd be fantastic, he could properly sink the Tories IMO, a thoroughly nasty piece of work and any sort of election campaign would reveal him for what he is, same as happened with May.

In the same way Corbyn was supposed to sink Labour?


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I've just remembered Grim... and Crasters high five from the cottage and I think my ear popped.

Curio.


You're right, my mistake. The shockwaves must have played with my memory.


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most people knew/know it's complete, unaffordable pie-in-the-sky

Wasn't it scrutinised by all sorts of financial experts who confirmed that it was, in fact, completely affordable and legit?


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That's the clip they'll use to introduce him to Mr Trump.

What's the deal with Trump's weird handshaking shit anyway? I would so love for some politician, as soon as he got his arm back, to just say "what the fuck's all this about?" whilst miming his stupid arm pulling thing, ideally adding "you strange cunt" afterwards.


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I think he once read a book on power postures and decided that exaggerating such behaviour would make him look even more dominant.


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 Post subject: Re: General Election 2017
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Just seen on BBC that May is going to see the Queen at 12.30 to ask permission to form a government so guess the DUP are on board


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 Post subject: Re: General Election 2017
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most people knew/know it's complete, unaffordable pie-in-the-sky

Wasn't it scrutinised by all sorts of financial experts who confirmed that it was, in fact, completely affordable and legit?


Heh. Depends which "financial experts" Corbyn spoke to, I guess.

But look, as I said, whilst I am extremely angry and bitter about all of this, I don't want this to unduly come across as sour grapes. No doubt about it, Corbyn vastly exceeded mine, and just about everyone else's pre-election expectations, and the fact that the precise converse is true for May does not in any way diminish his own achievements in this respect. I could say that he 'bought' the vote of students with promises of free tuition, and inflationary wage increases to the public sector - but how is this different to Cameron 'buying' the grey vote with triple-lock pensions protection and suchlike?

I recoil in horror at the massive planned business taxes increases proposed by Corbyn, but, I think, the Tories have done *just* enough to remain in power. We'll have to see about that, though.

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I don't think Labour could form a government anyway. If there's a proper coalition with a majority on the table, why would a minority government even be considered?

The arrogance of May to think she's a legitimate leader of this country right now though is galling.


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 Post subject: Re: General Election 2017
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In the same way Corbyn was supposed to sink Labour?


Some of us were saying all along he could be a very good thing for the Labour party and politics in general.


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Obviously the absolute worst thing to come out of politics over the last while is the loss of my ability to be smugly annoyed at the rest of the country for voting Tory. Seriously, what the fuck huge chunks of Scotland?


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 Post subject: Re: General Election 2017
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The really promising thing for me is the way Corbyn's Labour Party has energised young voters, who unlike the selfish old people who keep voting Conservative, won't be dying any time soon.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... cial-media

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I have friends who registered to vote for the first time, so that they could vote for Corbyn, because they saw the potential there to elect someone who seemed – despite his vintage – to be doing politics differently. He may be a white-haired jam-maker, but they saw something in him that was lacking in other candidates. I suspect that the right wing of the Labour party underestimated the appeal of an old-fashioned socialist to a generation who felt that their predecessors, who benefited so much from the generosity of the welfare state, were breaking the social contract. Having witnessed those who reaped the rewards of a free education hike tuition fees to ridiculous levels (a formative political experience for many my age), the appeal of someone who actually believes in intergenerational fairness was unparalleled. Not to mention the appeal of a politician likely to keep their promises.

Brexit will also have had an effect. The baby boomer and grandparent vote is what won it, and the analysis did not shy away from that. Young people were furious – suddenly politics was being talked about in terms of generational divides. Those of us under 30 were asking how it could be fair that a chunk of the population who might not be around much longer should be able to dictate the future state of the country in this way. People were upset with their parents and grandparents for what they perceived as craven selfishness. We grew up with an open, pro-European outlook, and felt that our elders were limiting our options while thinking only of themselves. Anger is a great motivator, and I think Theresa May underestimated how long it can simmer for when she called a snap general election less than a year after the referendum vote.


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Obviously the absolute worst thing to come out of politics over the last while is the loss of my ability to be smugly annoyed at the rest of the country for voting Tory. Seriously, what the fuck huge chunks of Scotland?

Welcome to the "WTF?" party. Other member include: The North East, The North West and Parts of Yorkshire.


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In the same way Corbyn was supposed to sink Labour?


Some of us were saying all along he could be a very good thing for the Labour party and politics in general.

I was very pro-Corbyn when he became leader of the Labour party but went off him very badly at his lack of enthusiasm for staying in the EU and his poor handling of pretty basic issues. However he ran an excellent campaign with a well thought out manifesto and I definitely warmed back up to him.

Out of all the major party leaders his position must be seen as the most safe now, which is incredible really.

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Obviously the absolute worst thing to come out of politics over the last while is the loss of my ability to be smugly annoyed at the rest of the country for voting Tory. Seriously, what the fuck huge chunks of Scotland?


Yes mate, we did our bit and then you and Wales fuck it up. ;)

I think it's because nationalism in Scotland is on the wane. Very few have the appetite for yet ANOTHER vote and Ruth Davidson seems like a very proficient politician - better than Dugdale anyway.

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Welcome to the "WTF?" party.

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Welcome to the "WTF?" party.

You get my vote.

Good. My manifesto is just a load of giphy links
Giphy "manifesto":
https://media2.giphy.com/media/fDij6uO25JBCg/giphy-loop.mp4

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 Post subject: Re: General Election 2017
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Good. My manifesto is just a load of giphy links


Engaging the youth vote, there.

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 Post subject: Re: General Election 2017
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Obviously the absolute worst thing to come out of politics over the last while is the loss of my ability to be smugly annoyed at the rest of the country for voting Tory. Seriously, what the fuck huge chunks of Scotland?


It is indeed ironic, is it not, that once again and just like the election before last, the SNP comes to the rescue of the Tories. Were it not for Nicola Sturgeon's own very premature Indyref2 posturing (ignoring the distinct lack of appetite for yet another key referendum so soon, among many quarters - very bad and naive, ideology-driven politics), we most certainly would not be looking at so much of Scotland turning blue. Can you imagine where the Tories would be if they were a further 11 or 12 seats down? It's easily the difference between forming a majority government with the DUP, and being completely fucked.

So despite everything I've already conceded, it's still a case of "phew", even now, from a Tory perspective.

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But isn't it the case that Scottish Labour has joined the choir eternal and the two-party system in Scotland is now SNP v Tory? If you'd have voted Labour in the past, and can look beyond independence, I reckon you're more likely to go SNP than Labour so you can keep the Tories out.


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Obviously the absolute worst thing to come out of politics over the last while is the loss of my ability to be smugly annoyed at the rest of the country for voting Tory. Seriously, what the fuck huge chunks of Scotland?


It is indeed ironic, is it not, that once again and just like the election before last, the SNP comes to the rescue of the Tories. Were it not for Nicola Sturgeon's own very premature Indyref2 posturing (ignoring the distinct lack of appetite for yet another key referendum so soon, among many quarters - very bad and naive, ideology-driven politics), we most certainly would not be looking at so much of Scotland turning blue. Can you imagine where the Tories would be if they were a further 11 or 12 seats down? It's easily the difference between forming a majority government with the DUP, and being completely fucked.

So despite everything I've already conceded, it's still a case of "phew", even now, from a Tory perspective.
One other thing it probably means is that they can take hard Brexit off the table whilst saying to the anti-EU lot within their party that their hands are tied.

The negotiations are still going to be a car crash of epic proportions though and the European issue will never, ever go away for them.


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@Mark - completely agree. Which, in turn, means the Tory Party is fractured beyond belief and the return of Farage. Etc.

(Although, the DUP are even more Eurosceptic than the Tories, so it might yet be a case of business as usual re. Hard Brexit negotiations)

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Nuttall just resigned

Shame. A lovely man and principled politician

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Shame. A lovely man and principled politician


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Nuttall just resigned


Farage is coming back isn't he? Good grief...


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Farage is coming back isn't he? Good grief...


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Farage is coming back isn't he? Good grief...

Argh, I can't bear seeing his rubbery goon face all over the news again.

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He said last night that if Theresa May wasn't going to enforce a hard Brexit, then he'd have no choice but to come back to active politics.

Presumably to not get elected for an 8th time.


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But isn't it the case that Scottish Labour has joined the choir eternal and the two-party system in Scotland is now SNP v Tory? If you'd have voted Labour in the past, and can look beyond independence, I reckon you're more likely to go SNP than Labour so you can keep the Tories out.


It's the "looking beyond independence" that's the thing though. I think a lot of people who would otherwise be happy with the SNP are strongly against independence and think a vote for the SNP is a vote for that; so won't do it. That should really just put them back in the Labour camp again but for some reason those votes seem to be going Tory and I don't entirely understand that. I'd assumed that Labour were just dying on their arse in general over dissatisfaction with Corbyn but the rest of the country has shown that not to be the case so, yeah, I dunno.


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I wonder what Ruth Davidson, a lesbian, thinks of a potential coalition with the homophobic DUP.

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I wonder what Ruth Davidson, a lesbian, thinks of a potential coalition with the homophobic DUP.

AND, as the DUP works closely with Sinn Fein, are they going to be labelled as "terrorist sympathisers"?


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From what I've been reading, the DUP is to the Ulster Resistance as Sinn Fein is to the IRA.

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I wonder what Ruth Davidson, a lesbian, thinks of a potential coalition with the homophobic DUP.

AND, as the DUP works closely with Sinn Fein, are they going to be labelled as "terrorist sympathisers"?

The DUP are endorsed by the UDA, who are loyalists. They power share with Sinn Fein but it's like if Labour and the Tories governed together.

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it's like if Labour and the Tories governed together.


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I have literally NO idea about Irish government, or the UDA, UDP, IRA, Sinn Fein or whoever these people are, so someone will have to either explain in very basic terms about who they are and why they matter(ed) or tell me what to think in a straight manner without any kind of satire/sideways glances/mocking because otherwise I won't get it.

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I wonder what Ruth Davidson, a lesbian, thinks of a potential coalition with the homophobic DUP.


How are the DUP homophobic? Citation?
(I've no idea btw, genuine q. I have virtually no knowledge of N.I. politics)

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I wonder what Ruth Davidson, a lesbian, thinks of a potential coalition with the homophobic DUP.


How are the DUP homophobic? Citation?
(I've no idea btw, genuine q. I have virtually no knowledge of N.I. politics)


They repeatedly vote against same sex marriage (as well as women's rights e.g. abortion) etc

They're all a bunch of cunts basically :)

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I have literally NO idea about Irish government, or the UDA, UDP, IRA, Sinn Fein or whoever these people are, so someone will have to either explain in very basic terms about who they are and why they matter(ed) or tell me what to think in a straight manner without any kind of satire/sideways glances/mocking because otherwise I won't get it.


My (very limited, see above) understanding is that the DUP are the Unionist (pro-UK) party of N.I. and, ideologically speaking, pretty close fit to the Conservative Party.

So in effect, the DUP are (more or less) the Conservatives' bedfellows, and indeed usually can be relied upon for parliamentary support anyway. What this means (IMO) is that the Tories have dodged the bullet of out-and-out Armageddon by the tiniest margin of, perhaps, 3 seats. Which explains why the Scottish +11 seat gain over the SNP is of such vital significance, and is literally the difference between a Tory and Labour/rainbow government moving forwards.

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I wonder what Ruth Davidson, a lesbian, thinks of a potential coalition with the homophobic DUP.


How are the DUP homophobic? Citation?
(I've no idea btw, genuine q. I have virtually no knowledge of N.I. politics)


They repeatedly vote against same sex marriage (as well as women's rights e.g. abortion) etc

They're all a bunch of cunts basically :)


Do people like this still exist in mainstream politics? Incredible, really.
Do they permit women to vote? :D

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I wonder what Ruth Davidson, a lesbian, thinks of a potential coalition with the homophobic DUP.


How are the DUP homophobic? Citation?
(I've no idea btw, genuine q. I have virtually no knowledge of N.I. politics)


They repeatedly vote against same sex marriage (as well as women's rights e.g. abortion) etc

They're all a bunch of cunts basically :)


Do people like this still exist in mainstream politics? Incredible, really.

Ireland, in many respects, mirrors the religious politics you get over in t'US.

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I have literally NO idea about Irish government, or the UDA, UDP, IRA, Sinn Fein or whoever these people are, so someone will have to either explain in very basic terms about who they are and why they matter(ed) or tell me what to think in a straight manner without any kind of satire/sideways glances/mocking because otherwise I won't get it.


Ok from what I know it's like this, any Northern Irish people please feel free to correct me if I've got any of it wrong:

IRA (Irish Republican Army) are/were Northern Irish paramilitary republicans seen as terrorists by the British
UDA (Ulster Defence Association) are/were Northern Irish paramilitary loyalists (to the Crown) seen as terrorists by the Irish

Sinn Fein is a political party that is/was endorsed by the IRA - left wing nationalists a bit like the SNP I guess.
Democratic Unionist Party is a political party that is/was endorsed by the UDA - right wing conservatives.

They both power share in Northern Ireland as part of the Good Friday Agreement (the binding peace agreement).

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I've just read that a candidate in Walsall lost his seat after 38 years. He'd been there since 1979.

Amazing! The longest I've had a job is 5 years....


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How long do you think May will survive then?

There must be daggers out for her, Torys went from predicted landslide to hung parliament largely thanks to the way she was perceived.


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I've just read that a candidate in Walsall lost his seat after 38 years. He'd been there since 1979.

Amazing! The longest I've had a job is 5 years....

Walsall North, yep. In Walsall South the Labour MP increased her majority, so feck off Northern Walsall.

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How long do you think May will survive then?

There must be daggers out for her, Torys went from predicted landslide to hung parliament largely thanks to the way she was perceived.

2 more years until the Brexit deadline hits. She's going to coalise with the UDP.

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I have literally NO idea about Irish government, or the UDA, UDP, IRA, Sinn Fein or whoever these people are, so someone will have to either explain in very basic terms about who they are and why they matter(ed) or tell me what to think in a straight manner without any kind of satire/sideways glances/mocking because otherwise I won't get it.


Ok from what I know it's like this, any Northern Irish people please feel free to correct me if I've got any of it wrong:

IRA (Irish Republican Army) are/were Northern Irish paramilitary republicans seen as terrorists by the British
UDA (Ulster Defence Association) are/were Northern Irish paramilitary loyalists (to the Crown) seen as terrorists by the Irish

Sinn Fein is a political party that is/was endorsed by the IRA - left wing nationalists a bit like the SNP I guess.
Democratic Unionist Party is a political party that is/was endorsed by the UDA - right wing conservatives.

They both power share in Northern Ireland as part of the Good Friday Agreement (the binding peace agreement).

Thank you. That has helped a little, but I reckon it'll all come good for my understanding over the next few weeks.

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Has anyone seen any analysis of what happens to May's thin coalition majority in the light of EVEL and the reliance on Scottish Conservative MPs?


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Define: EVEL


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English Votes for English Laws.

https://www.parliament.uk/about/how/law ... lish-laws/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Loth ... l_election

Prevents Scottish MPs from voting on laws that only affect England and Wales. Designed by Cameron to shield the Commons from SNP influence. Now potentially about to backfire.


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