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| Author: | Bamba [ Mon Mar 13, 2017 17:59 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild |
Satsuma wrote: Let's not pretend he's the second coming of the Messiah. I've watched a fair few of his videos and I find him to be a fucking irritating self aggrandising cockbag. In his defence, the 'persona' he puts on for the Jimquisition videos is just that and is a very exaggerated version of himself by his own admission. In our defence, no one here has implied anything like him being the second coming of the Messiah. |
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| Author: | Satsuma [ Mon Mar 13, 2017 18:17 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild |
Bamba wrote: In our defence, no one here has implied anything like him being the second coming of the Messiah. Mentioning him in the same sentence as AP is as close as you'll get. Not to you, mind, cause you're not from WoS and no one knows where you came from. Some say you were birthed in a laboratory; some say you were hatched from a scotch egg - we'll never know. |
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| Author: | Pundabaya [ Mon Mar 13, 2017 18:42 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild |
Amiga Power wasn't exactly the first coming of the Messiah, to be fair. Now, Your Sinclair... (I merely mentioned AP as they similarly used the full range of their scoring scale, along with Edge.) |
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| Author: | Hearthly [ Mon Mar 13, 2017 18:55 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild |
I've not finished the game yet but from what I've played so far I'd say his review is fair and balanced, but the things that he finds really quite irksome don't bother me so much. My feeling at the moment is maybe 849/1000, although that may yet be subject to change, of course. |
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| Author: | Pundabaya [ Mon Mar 13, 2017 19:20 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild |
TheVision wrote: Personally I think the game deserves a higher score but I can see from his writing that it's a good game and he did enjoy it... just with a few niggles. Why does it deserve a high score? What an odd idea. |
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| Author: | TheVision [ Mon Mar 13, 2017 19:47 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild |
I just would mark it higher than a 7. That's all. I think it's better than that. |
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| Author: | Grim... [ Tue Mar 14, 2017 10:29 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild |
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| Author: | TheVision [ Tue Mar 14, 2017 10:44 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild |
That's brilliant. |
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| Author: | TheVision [ Tue Mar 14, 2017 14:49 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild |
My progress in this game remains slow but that doesn't matter because I'm absolutely loving it. I'm supposed to be doing a quest but I keep getting sidetracked with fighting, killing and eating. It's glorious. Every place I go, I see things in the distance which sucker me into travelling further and further and before I know it, I'm miles away and it starts raining. At first I was worried about my weapons being crap but I'm not starting to see some better weapons that seem to last a little while longer. I still run away from the majority of fights as I don't have any proper armour yet but that's ok. I'm sure that will come in time. |
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| Author: | Satsuma [ Tue Mar 14, 2017 15:15 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild |
I haz this! It's shit 5/10. More thoughts when I open the wrapper. |
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| Author: | Mr Dave [ Tue Mar 14, 2017 15:57 ] |
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I also had this. It is also still in wrapper. |
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| Author: | Mr Dave [ Wed Mar 15, 2017 9:01 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild |
Well,I played a little yesterday. It's not a strong start. First of all (and perhaps because I was playing on the pad rather than the TV) it was Terribly washed out, which just made everything indistinct and hard to resolve. Secondly "have this weapon" *monster* *hit monster* *hit monster a second time* *weapon breaks*... Seriously? |
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| Author: | TheVision [ Wed Mar 15, 2017 10:47 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild |
Is this the Wii U version Dave because the Switch version doesn't appear washed out to me. As for the weapons, yeah. The first lot you get are shit. They get better though. |
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| Author: | Mr Dave [ Wed Mar 15, 2017 11:13 ] |
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It is, indeed, the WiiU version. As things stand, I'm not too likely to get a switch. |
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| Author: | TheVision [ Wed Mar 15, 2017 11:27 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild |
Don't worry. I'll let you play on mine at the Cotta8e. You were kind enough to let us all sweat in your Vive so it's the least I can do. |
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| Author: | Satsuma [ Wed Mar 15, 2017 12:18 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild |
He's playing it on the pad screen, it's bound to look like dogshit! 
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| Author: | myp [ Wed Mar 15, 2017 12:21 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild |
Satsuma wrote: He's playing it on the pad screen, it's bound to look like dogshit! Yeah, it's not a great screen. |
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| Author: | TheVision [ Wed Mar 15, 2017 14:21 ] |
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I've discovered that this isn't a great game to play on my lunch break. I've been late back every day since I've had it. |
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| Author: | Hero of Excellence [ Wed Mar 15, 2017 14:29 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild |
I'm not really used to this style of game (don't own an Xbone or PS4, don't play console games that aren't on Nintendo machines), and I'm finding it very overwhelming. Sort of aimless, even. I think I'm more suited to the traditional Zelda style of going from event A to place B to get item C to unlock area D, to be honest: I think I'm going to struggle going further, and I've finished all the 3D Zelda games which aren't Skyward Sword. |
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| Author: | TheVision [ Wed Mar 15, 2017 14:48 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild |
Hero of Excellence wrote: Sort of aimless, even. I must admit, I struggled with this too. I've had to get into the mindset that it doesn't matter what I do in the world, it'll all be for the greater good eventually. |
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| Author: | Mr Dave [ Wed Mar 15, 2017 14:56 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild |
Satsuma wrote: He's playing it on the pad screen, it's bound to look like dogshit! It took so long to update (probably about 20 minutes, all while displaying "4 seconds remaining" that I'd moved away from the TV by the time it started. |
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| Author: | Satsuma [ Wed Mar 15, 2017 16:22 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild |
Mr Dave wrote: Secondly "have this weapon" *monster* *hit monster* *hit monster a second time* *weapon breaks*... Seriously? I've been reading some comments about this elsewhere in that the game is designed to push you to use different tactics away from a typical 1 on 1 sword fight approach so the rapidly degrading weapons are part of the encouragement to make you think about fighting in other ways/using the environment blah blah blah. I don't know cause it's still in the wrapper. 3/10 |
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| Author: | TsuMuch [ Thu Mar 16, 2017 21:47 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild |
Been playing this on Wii U. Only a little over 10 hours in, barely scratched the main plot line, but pretty certain already it is the best Zelda game ever made. It is basically the elegance and humour of classic Zelda, with combat inspired by Dark Souls and exploration that's more tense and exciting than Minecraft. And unlike Minecraft, where the world is procedurally generated, here it has been carefully designed and is packed full of the kind of magic that you only find in Nintendo games. It is mind-boggling when you think about how big the world is. Aside from the massive map, probably the biggest difference between this and other Zelda games (at least since LTTP) is that in previous games the only real difficulty came from getting stuck on a puzzle. Here you are very unlikely to get stuck puzzling (at least in what I've seen), but you will die through getting into fights you're not ready for or failing to pay careful enough attention to the environment. I've died at least 20 times already, but thankfully death is much less punitive here than in Dark Souls. So yeah, it is pretty damn good. Indeed, it's the first videogame in a very long time that's made me care enough to ask, "I wonder what the excellent folk at BETEO make of this?" And I'll admit I'm slightly sad to log on here for the first time in several years and not find a greater plurality of answers to that question. But hey, I'm also pleased that the gentle moderation that lets these threads meander around is still in force. While there are certainly more exciting things to talk about on this subject than the battery life of controllers, the fact this is the only game on the Wii U that's made me notice how short the battery life is on the gamepad certainly tells its own story. Anyway, can more of you go play this and report back please? It's worth taking out the wrapper at least. |
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| Author: | Pundabaya [ Thu Mar 16, 2017 22:11 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild |
No. I don't like Nintendo. So there. |
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| Author: | Sir Taxalot [ Thu Mar 16, 2017 22:36 ] |
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Yes, send money plz and I will go buy |
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| Author: | TsuMuch [ Mon Mar 20, 2017 9:09 ] |
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Pundabaya wrote: I don't like Nintendo. 
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| Author: | Zardoz [ Mon Mar 20, 2017 10:19 ] |
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TsuMuch wrote: Pundabaya wrote: I don't like Nintendo. They're thieves. |
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| Author: | Mr Dave [ Mon Mar 20, 2017 11:48 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild |
Zardoz wrote: TsuMuch wrote: Pundabaya wrote: I don't like Nintendo. They're thieves. A.K.A. They had a crap loyalty scheme. The game, however, is much fun. |
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| Author: | Satsuma [ Mon Mar 20, 2017 16:36 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild |
It's still in the wrapper. |
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| Author: | Pundabaya [ Mon Mar 20, 2017 18:23 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild |
TsuMuch wrote: Pundabaya wrote: I don't like Nintendo. There's something um... Nintendo-ey about all their games that annoys me. I can't put my finger on it... it's something about the feel of the games. The hardware is fine, I suppose, except that all the games are Nintendo games. |
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| Author: | Mr Dave [ Mon Mar 20, 2017 21:06 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild |
Been playing it more, is a quite absorbing game. Still don't feel like I've got at all far in it, just plenty of exploring. Some annoyances , controls aren't the most intuitive, rains to often and no option to turn off the voice acting. |
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| Author: | Zardoz [ Mon Mar 20, 2017 22:34 ] |
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Rain? |
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| Author: | zaphod79 [ Tue Mar 21, 2017 1:32 ] |
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Zardoz wrote: Rain? In game rain , when it happens you'll have problems navigating or climbing stuff - its one of the common complaints (especially when your trying to get to the top of something :-( http://kotaku.com/i-swear-if-it-rains-i ... 1793220766 |
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| Author: | TsuMuch [ Tue Mar 21, 2017 10:22 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild |
Controls are fiddly, I think that's fair. Largely a reflection that the underlying systems are much more sophisticated than previous Zelda games. It's a shame they don't give you the option to fully remap the controls, but after an admittedly long period of adjustment I've reached the point now I'm comfortable with them. But the rain? It is a fundamental part of the simulation that is key to making this an effective and enjoyable survival game. Personally, I'm thrilled to play something that doesn't just use it to make it harder to change direction when running. Here it puts out fire, makes surfaces slippery, interacts with electricity, and likely does all manner of other things I've yet to discover. It's one of the many elements that makes this - quite unlike any other Nintendo title - a game which will give you 100 unique stories to tell. For example, last night I climbed to a high point to attempt to glide across a canyon. I knew it was 50-50 whether I'd have the uplift to fully breach the gap, but with my recently improved stamina I knew that if I fell short I ought to still be able to climb the rest of the way up. So heroically I launch myself from the highest tree on my side of the canyon. Unfortunately, I am in the air less than 10 seconds when it starts raining. I think the rain must add weight to my glider, because my angle seems to detoriate a little and I crash against the cliff edge on the other side. Link helpfully grabs on automatically, but the cliff is a sheer 90 degree angle. If it were dry I'd have no problem, I could climb up the last 5 meters and be exploring a brand new continent in a matter of seconds. But no, it is raining. I try to climb anyway. We get about a metre further up, but then the rock gives way and Link starts to slide back to where we started, except now with a little less precious stamina. I check my inventory in case I find an item I'd forgotten I picked up that improves my grip, but no such luck. I try to push up again taking a slightly different route, but the result is the same. The only way is down. What is at the bottom of this canyon anyway? It was too deep to easily see from the top. I slide slowly, carefully down. Soon it becomes clear it's a river, but with no banks to rest on either side. And of course at this point, Link is exhausted. He has no stamina for swimming. He drowns. Annoying? To some maybe. But this game autosaves pretty frequently, so I've not lost much progress. And this game generally gives you at least half a dozen ways of achieving your ends, so when I reload I climb down the tree I'd tried to glide from and look into other ways to cross the canyon. I spot smoke in the distance and follow it to find another traveller who tells me a few legends about what's on the other side, says that there's a bridge out to the east, but it's a long old road. He also says it would surely be folly to try to cross any other way... I could go on, but safe to say as I headed out east there more exciting, tense, funny moments of emergent gameplay, that makes me think this really is the first game to live up to the term "sandbox". If ever you were inclined to give Nintendo a second chance, I assure you this is the game to try. See smarter people than me talking along similar lines here. |
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| Author: | Pundabaya [ Tue Mar 21, 2017 15:02 ] |
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Sounds pretty shit, to be honest. |
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| Author: | TheVision [ Tue Mar 21, 2017 18:21 ] |
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Nah, I can see what Tsu Much is saying and it's spot on. This is a wonderful game. |
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| Author: | Pundabaya [ Tue Mar 21, 2017 18:26 ] |
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I have Horizon: Zero Dawn and Nier: Automata. Why do I need a game that needlessly fucks you over randomly, on the console that is the whitest of all Nintendo's elephants? |
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| Author: | Satsuma [ Tue Mar 21, 2017 18:46 ] |
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Far as I understand it, Horizon: Zero Dawn is to BOTW what Saints Row is to GTA: pretty good but one is on another level. EDIT: not from my experience though as I've no interest in bland Horizon and BOTW is still in the wrapper. |
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| Author: | TheVision [ Tue Mar 21, 2017 18:50 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild |
Pundabaya wrote: I have Horizon: Zero Dawn and Nier: Automata. Why do I need a game that needlessly fucks you over randomly, on the console that is the whitest of all Nintendo's elephants? It doesn't fuck you over, it just rains so you have to change your plans slightly. Instead of climbing a mountain, you try to walk around it and see what you can find that way. |
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| Author: | TsuMuch [ Tue Mar 21, 2017 19:04 ] |
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Pundabaya wrote: Why do I need a game that needlessly fucks you over randomly, on the console that is the whitest of all Nintendo's elephants? Err, because you aren't ever "fucked over"? The penalty for dying is minimal. It's often as funny as when you die in something like Trials HD. For the first time, we have an open game world that is in a genuine state of flux, exciting and unpredictable. There's more than one way to do things. Moreover there's a gazillion things to do. The game rewardsyou for being adaptable instead of persisting with plan A when the circumstances change. Surely only miserable dullards and shareholders in the next Brown Corridor Collect-em-up would believe that these are bad things? |
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| Author: | Hearthly [ Tue Mar 21, 2017 20:39 ] |
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The Angry Joe review is worth a watch, he gives it a rock solid 9/10 with a few niggles dropping it down from a 10/10, but he can get on board with those who peg it at 10/10. I know Angry Joe's style might not be to everyone's taste, but me and Mrs Hearthly just watched the whole thing and thought it was pretty funny, whilst making all the right points. The game itself is an absolute masterpiece IMO. |
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| Author: | Mr Dave [ Tue Mar 28, 2017 16:03 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild |
Well, I'm getting broadly toward the end (In that people are telling me to go do the final main quest thing) I'd rather not. I don't really want this to end. |
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| Author: | myp [ Tue Mar 28, 2017 16:11 ] |
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Mr Dave wrote: I don't really want this to end. We'll always have Paris |
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| Author: | Mr Dave [ Tue Mar 28, 2017 18:16 ] |
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Lonewolves wrote: Mr Dave wrote: I don't really want this to end. We'll always have Paris I'm never going to Paris with you. |
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| Author: | TheVision [ Tue Mar 28, 2017 20:48 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild |
Mr Dave wrote: Well, I'm getting broadly toward the end (In that people are telling me to go do the final main quest thing) I'd rather not. I don't really want this to end. Have you done all the divine beats then? I've only fine one so far and that was the big elephant. |
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| Author: | MaliA [ Tue Mar 28, 2017 20:53 ] |
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Mr Dave wrote: Lonewolves wrote: Mr Dave wrote: I don't really want this to end. We'll always have Paris I'm never going to Paris with you. Paris is rubbish. It is one of the reasons I never became a bike racer. I'm not sweating my balls off for over three thousand clicks to end up in Paris. |
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| Author: | Mr Dave [ Tue Mar 28, 2017 21:05 ] |
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TheVision wrote: Mr Dave wrote: Well, I'm getting broadly toward the end (In that people are telling me to go do the final main quest thing) I'd rather not. I don't really want this to end. Have you done all the divine beats then? I've only fine one so far and that was the big elephant. Yup. All beasts, a master sword, all memories. A fair few side quests to go, but the reason I haven't done them so far is that for many of them I haven't a clue how. ( "Find all the parts of this thing and take photos" "Where" "Dunno, Could be anywhere" "Find my four friends", ""Any clues" "No" "Well at least it's a small world..." "Find My Wife" "I'm not even going to ask") or they require killing a big thing that scares me. |
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| Author: | Sir Taxalot [ Tue Mar 28, 2017 23:35 ] |
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Mr Dave wrote: Well, I'm getting broadly toward the end (In that people are telling me to go do the final main quest thing) I'd rather not. I don't really want this to end. That says a lot. I really want to play this game 
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| Author: | Jem [ Wed Apr 05, 2017 9:08 ] |
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My sister brought her Wii U round yesterday and I saw about 20 mins of Zelda and fuck I want this game. |
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| Author: | Nik [ Wed Apr 05, 2017 9:17 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild |
You do! My wife has started asking me if we can play it instead of watching tv - it's usually the other way around. Edit: just realised that might appear horribly sexist - not intended. What I meant was this game takes over your life, and much like life, every time you go to do something, you get distracted by five or six other things to be done. It's immense. |
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