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Christ, you have to pay £9 a month to use the remote control stuff on Hive.

Fucking that noise.

No it is either £9 a month or a one of payment. I think

Ah, yes, that's correct. It was a really badly-worded advert.

I had a new boiler put in 2 years ago. I told the plumber I wanted a good quality one that would be large enough to deal with extra\larger radiators when we extended the house.

So I paid £2500 for a huge combi boiler with a 10 year guarantee. Its been brilliant never had a single issue and the house is always warm when needed.

Only issue with is the controls on the boiler, it has one of those wheels with tiny teeth that you need to push out with a pen to set when you want the heating on, we are always trying to do this with our fingers and then knocking the inner wheel that sets the time. So we end up with heating that should be on a 5am coming on at 8am

There is a wireless thermostat with it but that's shit.

So the main thing I want this for is just easy programing and turning the heating on and off. My wife can turn it on when she is out and have the house warm and also if I'm honest I won't need to get off my arse to turn it off when the living room is too hot and the heat has made me sleepy

Hive is not as good as the new Nest as I don't think it has any or as much learning on how you use the heating, it does have a feature that turns the heating on if its a certain temperature in the house but not sure much more. I'll ask the fitter what it does in this area tomorrow.

If I'm honest I regret not getting Nest, but Hive was just easier to order as I have Homecare and Gas from BG, it will deal with the main things so it will be an improvement.

You know what you should do with that fancy boiler? Tape a pen lid on a bit of string to it.

Seriously, it will make the world of difference to your altering the heating times on that wheel, but look stupid as fuck.

Jem got a free Hive Hub and multicoloured lightbulb thing through the post the other week, so we set it up.

It's decent enough, but I can't help but think it's easier to just use the fucking switch on the wall than go through the rigmarole of opening the app, waiting for it to sign in, realising that it's signed you out because the session has expired, try and remember your password, get it wrong a few times, have to go through the forgotten password feature, reset your password, then login with the new password, then tell your light to come on.

That doesn't sound right, I just had a look at the Hive app on one of my work mates phones, he doesn't have to sign in.

He has the heating installed but his app will also let him add bulbs and hubs so I'm guessing its the same one you are using

You do have to be signed in, but I get the feeling it's supposed to remember that you're signed in so you don't have to keep doing it.

My app does that sometimes, but most of the time not.

We had a new boiler a few years ago and like others, I asked for the best!

I paid a fair bit and got a boiler with a digital panel where you programme the times it comes on and off. I also have a wireless thermostat on the wall in my hall.

I’ve set the times on the boiler for the heating to come on and off and the thermostat occasionally gets turned up or down a notch, depending on how warm it is.

This has worked absolutely fine in the time I’ve had the boiler… I don’t think I’m the right market for this new fangled technology and as for anyone that says “You can set the heating to come on while you’re out…” Pffft, Pointless.

I've got one and I completely agree with you. It is pointless.

Setting it come on when you're 10 minutes away in freezing weather... that's numberwang

Nest turns itself on when you're coming home. Pressing buttons is for cavemen.

In the Leaf, I can set the climate control timer to come on so that the car's nice and toasty before I leave the house in the morning.

However, the software will only allow you to do one on/off cycle a day, so I can't make it do it before I leave work too.

PAIN IN THE ARSE.

You should just leave work earlier.

How bizarre.

All in and working for me now

So far I've just replicated the heating schedule we had before, but like the shinny and smart phone connection.

Didn't have the thermostat put on the wall and will probably chuck more money to BG for a stand and frame

My wife is far from impressed, coldness will be her motivator as I don't think the heating will work via the boiler wheels anymore. The engineer set that to always on and Hive sits over that now. She is pregnant and tired at the moment but will thank me one day:)

That's not patronising at all Good job she's not a beex-er!

I was joking I've gone through it with her now and explained that she can only control the heating via he phone or the Hive thermostat

Already see improvements with Hive, I have the heating set to the same times and temperature as the old one, before the heating just used to be on for the full time period and towards the end the house was too hot.

Now I see it going off maybe an hour before the end as the house is at the specified temperature, so I guess maybe the old thermostat was broken.

Also like the anywhere access, surprising how the house holds its temperature during the day, also can boost it from anywhere via the phone if needed.

My heating does all that too!

o/

I have ordered, it gets installed on Monday.

It it is crap, I am going to come round and smash your baubles

Best get those baubles ready Asfish!

Not chance there will be any left by then Anyhow that issue is nothing compared to his latest stunt, I fear for my wife's sanity at the moment

So just over 2 weeks in and its fallen over

Came home after a day out and got my phone out to boost the heating, I get a "Heating Offline" message

So try a few things the app suggests and nothing works, so called Hive. To their credit my call was answered in 2-3 mins by a human with good English.

There then followed 35 mins of me pressing buttons, rebooting things and reporting on the blinking patterns and colors of various lights.

In the end I said enough as nothing was working, I asked them to send somebody out. Was put on hold to be given some vague promise of a call back re a engineer

So I kicked off told them it was less that 30 days old, that i have young kid and pregnant wife and wanted a firmed up date

Have a engineer around tomorrow 12-6 with a confirmation call 30 mins before he gets here.

Heating is very restrictive once this goes down, only option is to turn in fully on or off by a button on the the receiver, still only a day to put up with it.

£5 to your favorite charity says you don't.

My heating is working fine tonight.

Curse your doubt casting

I just called them again and spoke to a different guy and pretended I couldn't remember the appointment time

Just wanted to check the last person wasn't just fobbing me off, he said I have an engineer booked in so guess i have to wait now.

Great but I bet you can't manage it from a smart phone can you..........well neither can I right now

So's mine, for the first time in nearly 2 weeks now that the gas valve has been replaced. The funny thing is we didn't really notice the house being much colder without heating. Yay concrete walls.

18 is fine. I'm not home.

16 better.

My flat is 21°C even with no heating on. The guy downstairs lives in a sauna.

Free heat! Awesome

Fine in winter (for the most part). Summer is pretty horrible.

Have they been yet?

Yes he turned up at 1.30pm.

4 hours later he left having replaced everything 3 times and still nothing works, they can't get things to connect to each other.

I even shut down all the wireless connections on my router and that made no difference.

So money back at the least and anything else I can get out of them.

The guy who came today showed me that I can have timed heating just no thermostat function, that will be fine as I'm off for the next 2 weeks

So Nest in the New Year I guess

Babe you saved£300 yet?

Babe?

something we should know?

I called them today to see what they have proposed to move this forward

They were going to send another engineer out today but we went to see Santa with my son and I didn't want to have to be rushing home

So I put them off to the 28th when they will try one more time.

EDIT: Fixed it, the guy moved the receiver that attached to the boiler and everything connected in 10 mins

Amazon have bith on deal! £135 nest 3rd gen, or £156 hive with installation.

Go nest? Nest prettier

Nest is far prettier, and easier to install (at least it was X years ago when I got one).

i have Hive.. it just works. Might get more add ons

Nest is also supposed to be a bit better in terms of learning, not sure how well this works with a standard set up where you have one thermostat in the house though.

Also look to be a lot more 3rd party devices for Nest although I find many are US only or still at Kickstarter stage.

Sometimes wish I had got Nest, but as said Hive just works so unless it blows up I won't change it.

Still pleased with our Hive.

It's buzzin'.

Late to the party, but Evohome is still the best for UK systems because it replaces TRVs with two-way controllers. Up to 12 zones. Can also do zone valving and water - but not water in a combi, the idiots.

Even more idiots, the newer Nest ripoff Lyric can't do all the fancy stuff that makes Evohome stand out.

Spendy, though.

I still don't get these things.

It's a thermostat you can turn on from your phone (or Google Home and stuff like that). It works out when to turn the heating on to get your house to the temperature you want it.

That's about it. Posh thermostat that's a little more efficient than a "normal" timer.

Yeah, but only a little more efficient? I just don't understand the need for them. Don't get me wrong... People can spend their money on what they want but for me, I just don't see the point of them over the normal timer. I have a normal timer and it works just fine and I don't have to think about it.

I have no idea how effeciant, to be honest, I don't remember what I used to pay.

But if I go out for the day, or go on holiday, or whatever, the house just deals with that.