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Author:  MaliA [ Wed Mar 01, 2017 10:32 ]
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markg wrote:
Yeah ours had that the other week It wasn't too bad at all really. Apart from the three days of nursery care I paid for but we never used. >:(


Yeah, the other one looked clean, so i took her in this morning. Not sure how long it'll last, I hit up a doctor friend about it last night but she hasn't fotten back to me. We had a cottage booked with MrsA's uni friends this weekend, but we now cannot go because reasons, but that was cash so no bill to pay for that.

Author:  MaliA [ Wed Mar 01, 2017 10:35 ]
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Kern wrote:
Take a photo of yourself holding a sign saying she's got it in front of something showing today's date. This is so if there is an outbreak at her university in 18 years' time and she calls you urgently to know if she had it, you can reassure her and send the photo as proof.


Best case for me is that she is dumb enough to just get by, but pretty enough to marry wealthy, so I can dodge cost of uni.

Author:  Jem [ Wed Mar 01, 2017 10:44 ]
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MaliA wrote:
markg wrote:
Yeah ours had that the other week It wasn't too bad at all really. Apart from the three days of nursery care I paid for but we never used. >:(


Yeah, the other one looked clean, so i took her in this morning.


Chicken pox is contagious for about a week before the spots appear so you've probably just caused a nursery epidemic. :DD

Author:  MaliA [ Wed Mar 01, 2017 10:45 ]
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Jem wrote:
MaliA wrote:
markg wrote:
Yeah ours had that the other week It wasn't too bad at all really. Apart from the three days of nursery care I paid for but we never used. >:(


Yeah, the other one looked clean, so i took her in this morning.


Chicken pox is contagious for about a week before the spots appear so you've probably just caused a nursery epidemic. :DD


Omlette, eggs.

Author:  Grim... [ Wed Mar 01, 2017 10:53 ]
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Which is a good thing. You want your child to get chicken pox.

When the Grimlet had his all the other kids came over to play :)

(It's contagious about two days before the spots appear until about five days afterwards)

Author:  MaliA [ Wed Mar 01, 2017 10:54 ]
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Grim... wrote:
Which is a good thing. You want your child to get chicken pox.

When the Grimlet had his all the other kids came over to play :)

(It's contagious about two days before the spots appear until about five days afterwards)


This is what I thought, but nobody listens to me in my house, anymore.

Author:  markg [ Wed Mar 01, 2017 10:54 ]
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I think we'd probably be vaccinating against it by now if it weren't for all the MMR idiocy.

Author:  Jem [ Wed Mar 01, 2017 10:56 ]
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Grim... wrote:
Which is a good thing. You want your child to get chicken pox.


True dat. My ex got it when Izzy did and it wasn't pleasant (for him I mean.. it was hilarious for me)

Author:  Grim... [ Wed Mar 01, 2017 10:59 ]
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markg wrote:
I think we'd probably be vaccinating against it by now if it weren't for all the MMR idiocy.

I doubt it. It's not dangerous, is it?

Measles is the dangerous "spotty" one.

Author:  markg [ Wed Mar 01, 2017 11:02 ]
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https://www.theguardian.com/science/occ ... e-shingles

Author:  TheVision [ Wed Mar 01, 2017 11:03 ]
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Isn't it more dangerous the older you get?

Author:  MaliA [ Wed Mar 01, 2017 11:03 ]
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TheVision wrote:
Isn't it more dangerous the older you get?


Title

Author:  Jem [ Wed Mar 01, 2017 11:12 ]
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TheVision wrote:
Isn't it more dangerous the older you get?


That was what I thought. :S

Author:  Grim... [ Wed Mar 01, 2017 11:14 ]
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Me too.

Author:  DavPaz [ Wed Mar 01, 2017 11:35 ]
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My former boss had shingles and it put him on his arse for 6 weeks

Author:  DBSnappa [ Wed Mar 01, 2017 11:44 ]
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My daughter had chicken pox when she was about 3 or 4 and shingles when she was 18. I don't think they're actually the same exactly so the old wives tale about getting the pox young means you won't get it later in life might be true, but shingles isn't the pox.

Author:  markg [ Wed Mar 01, 2017 11:46 ]
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It's not an old wives tale, it definitely is the exact same virus it's just that whilst most people will develop immunity an unfortunate few won't.

Author:  DBSnappa [ Wed Mar 01, 2017 12:17 ]
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markg wrote:
It's not an old wives tale, it definitely is the exact same virus it's just that whilst most people will develop immunity an unfortunate few won't.

Same virus, different disease apparently. As I understand it from having just spent some time reading about it, 1 in 3 adults over a certain age who have had chicken pox will get shingles later in life as like most viruses it stays in your 'system' but is suppressed by your immune system. Age and other ailments can suppress your immune system and then the virus can resurface.
Although not 100% true, due to chicken pox being highly contagious and shingles not being very contagious, it's very unlikely you'll get shingles unless you've had chicken pox, or a chicken pox immunisation jab. Also, if you've never had chicken pox and you're exposed to someone with shingles, in the unlikely event that the virus (you would need direct contact with the sores, so getting it on your hands and then rubbing your eyes or similar), transfers, you'll very likely get chicken pox and not shingles.

Author:  JBR [ Wed Mar 01, 2017 13:10 ]
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My parents have both had shingles - and recovered okay. Mum just recently, she was most worried about how it looked. Dad had it around Christmas time, and the local carol singers called round. When they heard he was ill upstairs they offered to sing "Shingle Bells", which I thought was superb.

Author:  Bamba [ Wed Mar 01, 2017 14:33 ]
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Doesn't all this make a mockery of people trying to ensure their kids get chicken pox? If you've never had it the most you can get is chicken pox; you can't go from never having had either of them straight to shingles. As you can only get shingles if you've previously had chicken pox, isn't the best course of action just to try not to get chicken pox in the first place?

Author:  markg [ Wed Mar 01, 2017 14:36 ]
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I think chickenpox can be a lot worse if you're older when you first get it.

Author:  Curiosity [ Wed Mar 01, 2017 14:42 ]
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Grim... wrote:
markg wrote:
I think we'd probably be vaccinating against it by now if it weren't for all the MMR idiocy.

I doubt it. It's not dangerous, is it?

Measles is the dangerous "spotty" one.


8000 deaths globally in 1990, down to 7,000 in 2013 (from chickenpox).

Equivalent figures for measles were 545,000 down to 96,000.

So good work on the measles prevention team, but that is still a shitload of deaths (mostly under 5s).

Christ, they reckon it was 2.6 MILLION deaths per year in 1980.

Author:  Bamba [ Wed Mar 01, 2017 14:45 ]
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markg wrote:
I think chickenpox can be a lot worse if you're older when you first get it.


Having ever had chickenpox massively increases the risk of getting shingles as an adult though and that brings it's own risks so I do wonder if that trade off is worth it.

Author:  Curiosity [ Wed Mar 01, 2017 14:47 ]
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My belt doesn't quite fit!

Because it's a little loose due to my losing weight :D

Author:  markg [ Wed Mar 01, 2017 15:00 ]
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Bamba wrote:
markg wrote:
I think chickenpox can be a lot worse if you're older when you first get it.


Having ever had chickenpox massively increases the risk of getting shingles as an adult though and that brings it's own risks so I do wonder if that trade off is worth it.

I think the point is that it's fairly certain that you will encounter the virus at some point and it's better to do it sooner rather than later.

Author:  ApplePieOfDestiny [ Wed Mar 01, 2017 15:08 ]
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markg wrote:
Bamba wrote:
markg wrote:
I think chickenpox can be a lot worse if you're older when you first get it.


Having ever had chickenpox massively increases the risk of getting shingles as an adult though and that brings it's own risks so I do wonder if that trade off is worth it.

I think the point is that it's fairly certain that you will encounter the virus at some point and it's better to do it sooner rather than later.

And encounter the virus for the first time when you have cancer, you could well die. So best to pick it up when you're a cancer free 3 year old.

Author:  Bamba [ Wed Mar 01, 2017 16:02 ]
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ApplePieOfDestiny wrote:
markg wrote:
Bamba wrote:
markg wrote:
I think chickenpox can be a lot worse if you're older when you first get it.


Having ever had chickenpox massively increases the risk of getting shingles as an adult though and that brings it's own risks so I do wonder if that trade off is worth it.

I think the point is that it's fairly certain that you will encounter the virus at some point and it's better to do it sooner rather than later.

And encounter the virus for the first time when you have cancer, you could well die. So best to pick it up when you're a cancer free 3 year old.


Being over 50, having cancer and getting cancer treatments are all factors that increase your risk of the virus coming out of hibernation as shingles though so people who've already had chickenpox are still at risk in that regard. I suppose it's possible that the recurrence as shingles wouldn't be as dangerous as the initial chickenpox infection but I'm struggling to find details about the severity of adult onset chickenpox vs shingles. You're sort of trading off the risk of getting your first chicken pox infection (something you can at least try to mitigate by limiting the people you come into contact with) against the existing infection recurring from inside your own body (which presumably you've got no real control over).

I'm just sort of rambling around this than giving strong arguments I realise as I've never looked into it before.

Author:  KovacsC [ Wed Mar 01, 2017 16:57 ]
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Curiosity wrote:
Grim... wrote:
markg wrote:
I think we'd probably be vaccinating against it by now if it weren't for all the MMR idiocy.

I doubt it. It's not dangerous, is it?

Measles is the dangerous "spotty" one.


8000 deaths globally in 1990, down to 7,000 in 2013 (from chickenpox).

Equivalent figures for measles were 545,000 down to 96,000.

So good work on the measles prevention team, but that is still a shitload of deaths (mostly under 5s).

Christ, they reckon it was 2.6 MILLION deaths per year in 1980.


If only you convince the anti vaxers

Author:  ApplePieOfDestiny [ Wed Mar 01, 2017 18:32 ]
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Iirc then shingles is rarely fatal under any circumstances but can reduce your immunity to leave you exposed to other shit. Although generally you'd only retrigger shingles in low immunity scenarios so not sure if that is provable.

Although saying that when the boy had shingles he was kept in as an inpatient isolation on iv antibiotics for a week despite being generally fine, so there must be some worry about it.

However, the health workers position on chicken pox even though he's immune is to keep the fuck away from chicken pox.

Author:  Dr Zoidberg [ Wed Mar 01, 2017 19:08 ]
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My cat hasn't been himself for a couple of days. When I took him to the vet they found he had a blocked bladder and needed to be put under a general anaesthetic and have a catheter fitted. That went well, and they don't think it's caused any permanent damage to his kidneys, but it'll probably cost about £6-700 by the time I get him back.

Author:  asfish [ Wed Mar 01, 2017 20:09 ]
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markg wrote:
I think we'd probably be vaccinating against it by now if it weren't for all the MMR idiocy.


I paid for my son to get vaccinated against this, think it was £150, there were 2 spaced out doses.

Wouldn't wish this on anyone so figured it was the least I could do

Author:  Jem [ Thu Mar 02, 2017 10:49 ]
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Dr Zoidberg wrote:
My cat hasn't been himself for a couple of days. When I took him to the vet they found he had a blocked bladder and needed to be put under a general anaesthetic and have a catheter fitted. That went well, and they don't think it's caused any permanent damage to his kidneys, but it'll probably cost about £6-700 by the time I get him back.


Poor puddy cat. Good thing you caught it early though. Hope he's back to his normal self soon :luv:

Author:  Dr Zoidberg [ Thu Mar 02, 2017 11:22 ]
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Jem wrote:
Dr Zoidberg wrote:
My cat hasn't been himself for a couple of days. When I took him to the vet they found he had a blocked bladder and needed to be put under a general anaesthetic and have a catheter fitted. That went well, and they don't think it's caused any permanent damage to his kidneys, but it'll probably cost about £6-700 by the time I get him back.


Poor puddy cat. Good thing you caught it early though. Hope he's back to his normal self soon :luv:


The catheter was working fine overnight and he's feeling much better, but now that's blocked so they've had to remove it. Now waiting to see if he's weeing ok without it, or if they have to put a new one in :(

Author:  Jem [ Thu Mar 02, 2017 11:27 ]
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Aww bums :( keeping fingers crossed

Author:  Mr Burrrrt [ Thu Mar 02, 2017 12:12 ]
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Dr Zoidberg wrote:
Jem wrote:
Dr Zoidberg wrote:
My cat hasn't been himself for a couple of days. When I took him to the vet they found he had a blocked bladder and needed to be put under a general anaesthetic and have a catheter fitted. That went well, and they don't think it's caused any permanent damage to his kidneys, but it'll probably cost about £6-700 by the time I get him back.


Poor puddy cat. Good thing you caught it early though. Hope he's back to his normal self soon :luv:


The catheter was working fine overnight and he's feeling much better, but now that's blocked so they've had to remove it. Now waiting to see if he's weeing ok without it, or if they have to put a new one in :(


It's caused by crystals in the urine blocking the urethra as it is very narrow in male cats. It's fairly common. Most recover, but some need to have an operation on the penis to open it up a bit and will probably have to have a special diet afterwards.

Author:  Dr Zoidberg [ Thu Mar 02, 2017 12:44 ]
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He's got to nearly 12 years old without problems. Hopefully it won't come to that.

Author:  GazChap [ Thu Mar 02, 2017 12:51 ]
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Mr Burrrrt wrote:
but some need to have an operation on the penis to open it up a bit

Just got images in my head of a Predator's mouth now.

Author:  markg [ Thu Mar 02, 2017 12:52 ]
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Yeah, our male cat seems to have problems like that from time to time. The other one prefers biscuits and if he snaffles too many of those it seems to aggravate it.

Author:  Cras [ Thu Mar 02, 2017 13:02 ]
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GazChap wrote:
Mr Burrrrt wrote:
but some need to have an operation on the penis to open it up a bit

Just got images in my head of a Predator's mouth now.


I went to Blade II

Author:  TheVision [ Thu Mar 02, 2017 13:42 ]
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Cras wrote:
GazChap wrote:
Mr Burrrrt wrote:
but some need to have an operation on the penis to open it up a bit

Just got images in my head of a Predator's mouth now.


I went to Blade II


I went with the American office when Dwight asks a gay couple how they decide which penis is going to open up to accept the other.

Author:  Jem [ Thu Mar 02, 2017 17:02 ]
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Yay, a wine delivery I ordered AGES ago arrived today!

Nay, one of the bottles is sealed but completely empty. :o :'(

Author:  Dr Zoidberg [ Thu Mar 02, 2017 17:56 ]
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Diet wine

Author:  Goddess Jasmine [ Thu Mar 02, 2017 18:03 ]
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My car cost me £225.

I have brakes!

Author:  Dr Zoidberg [ Thu Mar 02, 2017 18:18 ]
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Morbo is feeling sorry for himself.

Author:  Zardoz [ Thu Mar 02, 2017 18:30 ]
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Daw, mend well Morbo x

Author:  asfish [ Thu Mar 02, 2017 19:50 ]
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After 2 weeks of having my suggestion to buy a world book day costume instead of making one refused, my wife came down at 17.00 in a panic

She opened with "Shit I just checked the letter from the school and its tomorrow not Monday"

At this point we maybe had 40% of the Mr Bump costume ready, so a rush around Tesco buying bandages and other stuff followed.

I even bought a backup costume (Willy Wonka) as we hadn't even tried it on him at this point.

It all worked out and he looks pretty good, and we did what you are supposed to do and made it.

Mr Bump looks like this BTW :)

http://mrmen.wikia.com/wiki/Mr._Bump

Author:  Mr Dave [ Thu Mar 02, 2017 19:53 ]
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Goddess Jasmine wrote:
My car cost me £225.

I have brakes!

Do you have a car to go with them?

Author:  Kern [ Thu Mar 02, 2017 19:54 ]
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Mr Dave wrote:
Goddess Jasmine wrote:
My car cost me £225.

I have brakes!

Do you have a car to go with them?


I spent more on brakes today than Jazzy did on her car. Ouch.

Author:  Goddess Jasmine [ Thu Mar 02, 2017 19:57 ]
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Kern wrote:
Mr Dave wrote:
Goddess Jasmine wrote:
My car cost me £225.

I have brakes!

Do you have a car to go with them?


I spent more on brakes today than Jazzy did on her car. Ouch.

I wish my car only cost me that much! :D

Author:  Kern [ Thu Mar 02, 2017 20:26 ]
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:facepalm:

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