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Author:  Grim... [ Sat Feb 10, 2018 4:05 ]
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Some people think Cap 3 is an Avengers film, some people don't.

The people that don't haven't seen Cap 3.

Author:  myp [ Sat Feb 10, 2018 9:32 ]
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Having characters from the Avengers films in does not an Avengers film make. It's thematically different and pits them against each other, rather than together versus a common foe. A subtle but important difference.

Author:  Cras [ Sat Feb 10, 2018 10:56 ]
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Lonewolves wrote:
Having characters from the Avengers films in does not an Avengers film make. It's thematically different and pits them against each other, rather than together versus a common foe. A subtle but important difference.


Wat. You plank.

Author:  myp [ Sat Feb 10, 2018 11:00 ]
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I have been won over by your powerfully persuasive argument. I am no match for your intellect.

Author:  LewieP [ Sat Feb 10, 2018 18:05 ]
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I don't agree with that reasoning. Both previous avengers movies had conflict within the avengers, both in terms of clashing perspectives, and fisticuffs. It's more pronounced (and not actually resolved by the end) in Civil War, but it's there in the Avengers movies too.

Author:  markg [ Sat Feb 10, 2018 18:11 ]
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I think if there's one thing we can all agree on it's that this is a very important distinction which must be settled one way or the other.

Author:  Pundabaya [ Sat Feb 17, 2018 23:12 ]
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Black Panther: pretty good, but takes too long to get going, and literally every other character is more interesting than the lead.

Author:  myp [ Sat Feb 17, 2018 23:25 ]
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GotGv2: not quite as good as the first film, but still a lot of fun.

Author:  Pundabaya [ Sun Feb 18, 2018 11:32 ]
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Black Panther:not a fan of a lot of the music.

Author:  Pundabaya [ Wed Feb 21, 2018 11:11 ]
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Anyone else think that Infinity War is going to... Suck?

There will be a bunch of fight scenes against generic-cgi-clone armies (a Marvel staple!) that will be worth watching, but I have this feeling it's going to be a mess.

Author:  Curiosity [ Wed Feb 21, 2018 11:45 ]
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To be honest, I can’t see how they could possibly make a coherent film out of that many characters without everything in it being absurdly shallow or silly, or there being huge gaps in the plot and continuity weirdness. It is surely going to be underwhelming.

That said, I’m super excited for it.

Author:  Bamba [ Wed Feb 21, 2018 12:22 ]
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I'm sure it'll be fun and entertaining but yeah, the majority of the characters are going to get glorified bit parts at best (unless it's some five hour long saga, which it'll never be). The 'best' we can hope for is that they just run with this inevitability and pick a couple of characters to focus on just to give some consistency and coherency to the whole thing.

Author:  Grim... [ Wed Feb 21, 2018 13:09 ]
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Bamba wrote:
(unless it's some five hour long saga, which it'll never be)

It's in two parts for a reason.

(Money)

Author:  Curiosity [ Wed Feb 21, 2018 13:46 ]
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Grim... wrote:
Bamba wrote:
(unless it's some five hour long saga, which it'll never be)

It's in two parts for a reason.

(Money)


Strictly speaking it isn’t any more.

But it is.

Author:  Curiosity [ Thu Mar 01, 2018 1:08 ]
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Black Panther was lots of fun. Did a great job with introducing multiple new and interesting characters, and had the best villain in ages (and also let Andy Serkis be a fantastic scenery-chewing second villain).

Author:  Pundabaya [ Thu Mar 01, 2018 1:13 ]
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Mr Serkis clearly had a lot of fun, and was a joy to watch.

Author:  KovacsC [ Thu Mar 01, 2018 13:11 ]
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I really enjoyed BP. Nice to see a well thought out super hero film, that was not saving the galaxy

Author:  Grim... [ Thu Mar 01, 2018 13:45 ]
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KovacsC wrote:
I really enjoyed BP. Nice to see a well thought out super hero film, that was not saving the galaxy

Like every other recent superhero film beside Guardians of the Galaxy 2?

Edit: Nope, turns out that was just life on some planets.

Author:  GazChap [ Thu Mar 01, 2018 13:50 ]
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I thought the implication in GotG 2 was that
ZOMG Spoiler! Click here to view!
Ego was going to turn every planet into his own image

which is pretty well "saving the galaxy" IMO.

Author:  Grim... [ Thu Mar 01, 2018 13:55 ]
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"Thousands" rather than all of them.

But okay, we'll count that.

Author:  KovacsC [ Thu Mar 01, 2018 13:58 ]
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Grim... wrote:
KovacsC wrote:
I really enjoyed BP. Nice to see a well thought out super hero film, that was not saving the galaxy

Like every other recent superhero film beside Guardians of the Galaxy 2?

Edit: Nope, turns out that was just life on some planets.


Ok, slight exaggeration.

I liked BP as it was smaller, the threat was more intimate.

Author:  DBSnappa [ Thu Mar 01, 2018 14:14 ]
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KovacsC wrote:
Grim... wrote:
KovacsC wrote:
I really enjoyed BP. Nice to see a well thought out super hero film, that was not saving the galaxy

Like every other recent superhero film beside Guardians of the Galaxy 2?

Edit: Nope, turns out that was just life on some planets.


Ok, slight exaggeration.

I liked BP as it was smaller, the threat was more intimate.


You make it sound like the movie is about syphillis?

Author:  Satsuma [ Thu Mar 01, 2018 14:20 ]
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:DD

Author:  KovacsC [ Thu Mar 01, 2018 14:24 ]
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ha ha

Author:  Bamba [ Thu Mar 01, 2018 15:34 ]
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RE: Black Panther, I did sort of wonder why Killlmonger spent all that time working with Klaue only to up and murder him at the last minute. He could've killed him at pretty much any time and presented him to Wakanda as proof of his worthiness so why work with him for so long then turn round and kill him at that precise moment?

Author:  Grim... [ Thu Mar 01, 2018 15:58 ]
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"Marvel Cinematic Universe spoiler thread"

Author:  Bamba [ Thu Mar 01, 2018 16:40 ]
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Noted and edited.

Author:  GazChap [ Thu Mar 01, 2018 16:47 ]
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Bamba wrote:
RE: Black Panther, I did sort of wonder why Killlmonger spent all that time working with Klaue only to up and murder him at the last minute. He could've killed him at pretty much any time and presented him to Wakanda as proof of his worthiness so why work with him for so long then turn round and kill him at that precise moment?

I think the idea was that he needed T'Challa to fail to apprehend him to sow the seed of discontent amongst the Wakandans.

It was a bit hamfisted though.

Author:  Bamba [ Thu Mar 01, 2018 17:41 ]
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GazChap wrote:
Bamba wrote:
RE: Black Panther, I did sort of wonder why Killlmonger spent all that time working with Klaue only to up and murder him at the last minute. He could've killed him at pretty much any time and presented him to Wakanda as proof of his worthiness so why work with him for so long then turn round and kill him at that precise moment?

I think the idea was that he needed T'Challa to fail to apprehend him to sow the seed of discontent amongst the Wakandans.

It was a bit hamfisted though.


They all already considered it a massive failure of his father to not capture him; he'd have been better taking out Klaue much earlier and off challenging the old king over it.

ETA: And ultimately it was his position as royal family member that meant the challenge was allowed to go ahead so Klaue's death was arguably pointless.

Author:  Curiosity [ Thu Mar 01, 2018 18:12 ]
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Bamba wrote:
GazChap wrote:
Bamba wrote:
RE: Black Panther, I did sort of wonder why Killlmonger spent all that time working with Klaue only to up and murder him at the last minute. He could've killed him at pretty much any time and presented him to Wakanda as proof of his worthiness so why work with him for so long then turn round and kill him at that precise moment?

I think the idea was that he needed T'Challa to fail to apprehend him to sow the seed of discontent amongst the Wakandans.

It was a bit hamfisted though.


They all already considered it a massive failure of his father to not capture him; he'd have been better taking out Klaue much earlier and off challenging the old king over it.

ETA: And ultimately it was his position as royal family member that meant the challenge was allowed to go ahead so Klaue's death was arguably pointless.


Nah, the only way he could get the 'army' onside, with yer man and his rhinos, was to show himself to be better than T'Challa. So he needed T'Challa to fail and then to succeed himself. That got him as far as the throne room with support, rather than potentially it all blowing up before then.

He could feasibly have done it before T'Challa was King, but maybe the opportunity didn't present itself, or he was preparing.

He was a good antagonist though, given that a lot of what he said was spot on, and in the end the good guys agreed with him about their own failures.

My one, 'huh' moment was when the reinforcements turned up in the final battle... like, they're fighting in a massive open space (yes, rocks and mountains, but you've got sightlines for miles in each direction), where the fuck were they hiding?

Also, the line about vegetarians was laugh out loud funny. As was the one calling Martin Freeman a coloniser.

Author:  GazChap [ Thu Mar 01, 2018 18:28 ]
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Curiosity wrote:
My one, 'huh' moment was when the reinforcements turned up in the final battle... like, they're fighting in a massive open space (yes, rocks and mountains, but you've got sightlines for miles in each direction), where the fuck were they hiding?

See also: the part in The Dark Knight where the Joker gatecrashes Bruce's party for Harvey Dent.

Author:  Grim... [ Thu Mar 01, 2018 18:50 ]
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GazChap wrote:
See also: the part in The Dark Knight where the Joker gatecrashes Bruce's party for Harvey Dent.

ZOMG SPOYLURZ

Author:  Grim... [ Thu Mar 01, 2018 18:51 ]
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Bamba wrote:
Noted and edited.

It doesn't matter too much for people reading, but it's a damn site easier to write posts without spoiler tags :)

Author:  DavPaz [ Fri Mar 16, 2018 15:27 ]
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New Infinity War Trailer


Author:  Grim... [ Fri Mar 16, 2018 15:56 ]
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Yasssss

Author:  Zardoz [ Fri Mar 16, 2018 15:58 ]
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:metul:

Author:  Malc [ Fri Mar 16, 2018 15:58 ]
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Giphy "big cheesy grin":
https://media1.giphy.com/media/LqrkF7RUJAPAc/giphy-loop.mp4

Author:  Malc [ Fri Mar 16, 2018 15:59 ]
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Malc wrote:
Giphy "big cheesy grin":
https://media3.giphy.com/media/l4FGE8A7JwHUHVMzu/giphy-loop.mp4


:(

Author:  Cras [ Sat Mar 17, 2018 1:31 ]
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Pretty psyched.

Author:  Cras [ Wed Mar 21, 2018 1:03 ]
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IW plot revealed:

Author:  Goddess Jasmine [ Wed Mar 21, 2018 7:44 ]
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Heh. :)

Author:  Trooper [ Thu Apr 26, 2018 12:26 ]
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I am in the cinema for infinity war!
Current count is 4 other cheek bastards in with me, will keep you updated.

Author:  LewieP [ Thu Apr 26, 2018 15:47 ]
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I saw it.

Was pretty great.

Don't watch it if you haven't seen most of the other movies.

Author:  Trooper [ Thu Apr 26, 2018 15:57 ]
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I'll give it an 8/10, there were parts in the middle that I was literally nodding off, the whole Thanos/Gamora piece was turgid, however the ending more than made up for that.

I do hope they don't do any timewimey stuff to fix the mess, but I suspect that will happen as it'll fuck up a fair few franchises otherwise!

Author:  LewieP [ Thu Apr 26, 2018 16:31 ]
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ZOMG Spoiler! Click here to view!
My guess is that most people will come back. Avengers 4 is going to focus mainly on the original group of Avengers, not all of them will make it, but all the dust people will be brought back, and possibly even Gamora etc (they might do The Search For Gamora for GOTG3).

Author:  Grim... [ Thu Apr 26, 2018 17:19 ]
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I've not seen Black Panther. Does that matter a lot?

Author:  Trooper [ Thu Apr 26, 2018 17:23 ]
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Grim... wrote:
I've not seen Black Panther. Does that matter a lot?


If you know who black panther is and what wakanda is, then it matters not at all.

Author:  myp [ Thu Apr 26, 2018 17:31 ]
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I've not seen:
Ant-Man
Doctor Strange
Thor Ragnarok
Black Panther

Author:  Trooper [ Thu Apr 26, 2018 17:36 ]
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Lonewolves wrote:
I've not seen:
Ant-Man
Doctor Strange
Thor Ragnarok
Black Panther


Ant man doesn't matter, Thor Ragnarok there are a couple of things you should really know going in, but it won't take you long to pick up if you don't. Dr strange you really should see first if possible.

Author:  Satsuma [ Thu Apr 26, 2018 17:46 ]
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Thor Ragnarok is brill and you should watch it because it’s brill. I’m sick of superhero films but Thor is so much fun I couldn’t help but love it. Interesting cinematography too, unlike, say Ant Man.

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