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 Post subject: Re: Nintendo Switch (formerly "NX")
PostPosted: Wed Dec 11, 2019 11:17 
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Sir Taxalot wrote:
It might be a little bit old now, but I hadn't read this thread for a while - that's interesting reading and I didn't really think about it in much detail before (and of course, I'm no developer or anywhere even close). Thanks for sharing that, I learned some things from reading it and a few of the comments before my poor little mind got a bit too lost in the detail.

Oh, me too. Some of the basic principles I'm familiar with (state management is crucial in the sort of distributed processing systems I do a lot of for my day job.) But I hadn't ever thought about applying those principles to games in any detail. Some of the stuff, like how checkpoints are flexible so the game engine tries to never save a checkpoint in an unwinnable state, is really interesting. Also I'd seen games where the "save my game" menu option would be greyed out - for example, I think in the Fallout and Elder Scrolls games, you can save if you character is in mid-air. But I'd never really pondered why that is.


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 Post subject: Re: Nintendo Switch (formerly "NX")
PostPosted: Fri Dec 13, 2019 9:16 
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In better news today, I got a Switch Lite as an early xmas present yesterday! I have mario kart and breath of the wild coming in the post today, and i'll probably get the goose game.

Commutes are looking up :)

In other news, how come Nintendo are still riduculously shit at anything online? Need a Nintendo account to even look at the eshop, but you can't setup an account from the Switch directly? Jesus Nintendo.


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 Post subject: Re: Nintendo Switch (formerly "NX")
PostPosted: Fri Dec 27, 2019 16:33 
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I got this for Christmas and I love it.


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 Post subject: Re: Nintendo Switch (formerly "NX")
PostPosted: Fri Dec 27, 2019 23:53 
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Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
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The loss of old-fashioned save/load functionality (FOR ABSOLUTELY NO GOOD REASON) is one of the most teeth-grindingly annoying things about modern games IMO
In general, when making sweeping statements about how other people are wrong, it’s good form to acknowledge that maybe things are more complex than they appear to you.

For example, consider this:


Sorry I didn't see this reply at the time, hence the delayed response.

That Twitter thread seems entirely reasonable, but doesn't explain games that do have 'save anywhere' functionality, or indeed quicksave/quickload from a single key on PC.

Thinking of games I've played recently that managed to offer 'save anywhere'.

Death Stranding (PS4)
The Outer Worlds (PC)
Dishonored 2 (And Dishonored) (PC)
Zelda Link's Awakening (Switch)

So it's clearly possible across a range of genres and platforms.

From the responses to the Twitter thread it looks like it's something that needs to be thought about ahead of time, and where this is done it's achievable.

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 Post subject: Re: Nintendo Switch (formerly "NX")
PostPosted: Sun Jan 26, 2020 20:26 
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I’ve been playing some New Super Mario Bros. U Switch (& New Super Luigi Bros. U Switch). It was fun for about 10 minutes but after that it’s just been fucking boring. I enjoy old Mario games but this seems like a significant step back from the likes of even Super Mario Bros. 3. Why isn’t it more fun!?


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 Post subject: Re: Nintendo Switch (formerly "NX")
PostPosted: Sun Jan 26, 2020 21:43 
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I seem to have bought a lightly used switch lite as it was cheap.
What’s worth playing?


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 Post subject: Re: Nintendo Switch (formerly "NX")
PostPosted: Sun Jan 26, 2020 21:53 
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Bayonetta 2.

Little Nightmares.

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 Post subject: Re: Nintendo Switch (formerly "NX")
PostPosted: Sun Jan 26, 2020 22:08 
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Yes, yes, Zelda; Mario Ody; Xenoblade; Bayonetta 2; Cuphead, i no rite!


As above.

Add Katana Zero.


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 Post subject: Re: Nintendo Switch (formerly "NX")
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 Post subject: Re: Nintendo Switch (formerly "NX")
PostPosted: Mon Jan 27, 2020 20:35 
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Now we’re with more. Any chance on playomg a little mario kart tomorrow.. with gamecube comtrollers?

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 Post subject: Re: Nintendo Switch (formerly "NX")
PostPosted: Mon Jan 27, 2020 21:57 
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Grim... wrote:
And Little Nightmares.


Noted ;)


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 Post subject: Re: Nintendo Switch (formerly "NX")
PostPosted: Mon Jan 27, 2020 23:12 
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And Little Nightmares.


Noted ;)


And ordered


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 Post subject: Re: Nintendo Switch (formerly "NX")
PostPosted: Tue Jan 28, 2020 14:04 
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Dr Zoidberg wrote:
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And Little Nightmares.


Noted ;)


And ordered


For balance, I thought it was pretty balls when I played it on the PC. Infuriatingly wooly platforming and nothing much new or interesting about it apart from that (aside from the aesthetic which was pretty nice).


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 Post subject: Re: Nintendo Switch (formerly "NX")
PostPosted: Tue Jan 28, 2020 14:13 
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It was alright but it’s hardly an Switch must-have; especially if you’ve got other platforms to play it on too. It’s about £30 on the eShop and £24 on PSN. I’m sure it’s been much cheaper during the sales too. If you’ve played the likes of Inside there’s no reason to play it. And if you haven’t played Inside then it’s £18 on the Switch and the better game.


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 Post subject: Re: Nintendo Switch (formerly "NX")
PostPosted: Tue Jan 28, 2020 14:56 
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Satsuma wrote:
It was alright but it’s hardly an Switch must-have; especially if you’ve got other platforms to play it on too. It’s about £30 on the eShop and £24 on PSN. I’m sure it’s been much cheaper during the sales too. If you’ve played the likes of Inside there’s no reason to play it. And if you haven’t played Inside then it’s £18 on the Switch and the better game.


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 Post subject: Re: Nintendo Switch (formerly "NX")
PostPosted: Tue Jan 28, 2020 22:15 
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I got it for £12 with the DLC, I think.

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 Post subject: Re: Nintendo Switch (formerly "NX")
PostPosted: Thu Feb 13, 2020 22:09 
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Bought smash bros second hand for 20 Pounds. Far more fun than i thought actually... characters seem to have far more weight than the wii u version

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