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Author:  Doctor Glyndwr [ Wed Apr 24, 2019 15:42 ]
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Grim... wrote:
Games are absurdly cheap. I hate to think how far behind inflation they are.
That's not how pricing theory and markets work, man.
Author:  Cras [ Wed Apr 24, 2019 15:51 ]
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Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
Grim... wrote:
Games are absurdly cheap. I hate to think how far behind inflation they are.
That's not how pricing theory and markets work, man.

*Looks at everything else I own*
*Is unconvinced*
Author:  Grim... [ Wed Apr 24, 2019 16:05 ]
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Bamba wrote:
Grim... wrote:
Bamba wrote:
Grim... wrote:
As long as you don't have to buy them. If it's stopping the game costing £70-80 then I'm all for it.

What's stopping the games without microtransactions from costing £70-80?

I dunno!

If you don't know then it's probably not all that credible to suggest that microtransactions are the reason your game doesn't cost more.

Probably a good job I didn't do that then. Imagine how silly I'd look!
:shrug:

Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
Grim... wrote:
Games are absurdly cheap. I hate to think how far behind inflation they are.

That's not how pricing theory and markets work, man.

Probably a good job I didn't say that then. Imagine how silly I'd look!
:shrug:
Author:  myp [ Wed Apr 24, 2019 16:13 ]
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Err
Author:  Bamba [ Wed Apr 24, 2019 16:14 ]
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Grim... wrote:
Probably a good job I didn't do that then. Imagine how silly I'd look!
:shrug:


I genuinely don't know how else to interpret this:

Grim... wrote:
As long as you don't have to buy them. If it's stopping the game costing £70-80 then I'm all for it.
Author:  Grim... [ Wed Apr 24, 2019 16:15 ]
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Okay.
Author:  Doctor Glyndwr [ Wed Apr 24, 2019 16:21 ]
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Mr Chonks wrote:
Err

i either just read grim...'s post a few times or i'm having a stroke, it's hard to be sure
Author:  Grim... [ Wed Apr 24, 2019 16:21 ]
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Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
Mr Chonks wrote:
Err

i either just read grim...'s post a few times or i'm having a stroke, it's hard to be sure

Do you smell toast?
Author:  Doctor Glyndwr [ Wed Apr 24, 2019 16:28 ]
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no i just see

"If it's stopping the game costing £70-80 then I'm all for it."
...
"Probably a good job I didn't do that then."

flashing before my eyes forever, looped around my brainstem in fiery letters like it's the engraving on the One Ring
Author:  myp [ Wed Apr 24, 2019 16:33 ]
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Same
Author:  markg [ Wed Apr 24, 2019 16:34 ]
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Cras wrote:
Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
Grim... wrote:
Games are absurdly cheap. I hate to think how far behind inflation they are.
That's not how pricing theory and markets work, man.

*Looks at everything else I own*
*Is unconvinced*

Physical goods maybe but it seems pretty cheap to listen to music or watch films now too.
Author:  Doctor Glyndwr [ Wed Apr 24, 2019 16:55 ]
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In other news, the Switch version of Mortal Kombat 11 apparently will lock most of the game modes out if you're not connected to wifi. What a bizarre decision for a portable console. Appears to be because of consistency checks, apparently savegame hacking to bypass the microtransactions was a thing on previous versions?
Author:  Grim... [ Wed Apr 24, 2019 16:57 ]
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Oh, that's some powerful bullshit. Which ones are going to be unlocked?
Author:  Doctor Glyndwr [ Wed Apr 24, 2019 17:00 ]
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markg wrote:
Physical goods maybe but it seems pretty cheap to listen to music or watch films now too.

Here's some US data I've seen that spans the last twenty years. (I don't have any handy UK data that's equivalent, but it looks broadly similar for most categories I think.)

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Technology is far, far cheaper than it was. Clothing, cars, and furniture is flat, which means they're all significantly cheaper in real terms today than in the late 90s. (check the "average hourly earnings" line.) Food is a little cheaper than it was.

Inflation isn't a universal constant; it's an aggregate effect across lots of market segments, some of which are actually deflating.
Author:  Doctor Glyndwr [ Wed Apr 24, 2019 17:01 ]
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Grim... wrote:
Oh, that's some powerful bullshit. Which ones are going to be unlocked?

Dunno, just someone on a mailing list in work saying "most modes can't be accessed." I guess any of the ones where you earn or spend the Koins, if it is indeed an anti-hacking measure.
Author:  Doctor Glyndwr [ Wed Apr 24, 2019 17:05 ]
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Grim... wrote:
Oh, that's some powerful bullshit. Which ones are going to be unlocked?

https://www.gamerevolution.com/guides/5 ... connection

"Both the Krypt and Towers of Time, as well as the standard online fighting fare against opponents around the world, won’t be accessible if you don’t have an internet connection. Any unlocks, such as costumes and skins, also won’t be available until you connect to the Mortal Kombat 11 servers. ... However, there is some good news... MK 11‘s story mode is playable from start to finish offline, as is the Klassic Towers offline mode. It’s just the Krypt and Towers of Time that require an internet connection. It’s absolutely recommended that, if possible, you play Mortal Kombat 11 while being connected to the web. Not only will you be missing out on rewards from various fights, and a large chunk of the game’s modes, but even prizes from the game’s Tutorials, such as the uber-cool Shao Kahn announcer voice, can’t be accessed."

This affects all platforms, but obviously much less of a hassle on PS4/Xbox/PC...
Author:  Grim... [ Wed Apr 24, 2019 17:07 ]
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Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
Technology is far, far cheaper than it was.

Maybe in general - consoles aren't, though. I wonder what "computer software" means, too.
Author:  Doctor Glyndwr [ Wed Apr 24, 2019 17:15 ]
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Grim... wrote:
Maybe in general - consoles aren't, though. I wonder what "computer software" means, too.

I don't see any meaningful trend up or down for console launch prices in this data:
https://uk.ign.com/articles/2016/10/04/ ... -inflation
Author:  Grim... [ Wed Apr 24, 2019 17:19 ]
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Wait is inflation a thing again now?
Author:  Doctor Glyndwr [ Wed Apr 24, 2019 17:19 ]
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Grim... wrote:
Wait is inflation a thing again now?

Depends what you want to discuss.
Author:  Doctor Glyndwr [ Wed Apr 24, 2019 17:29 ]
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Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
Grim... wrote:
Maybe in general - consoles aren't, though. I wonder what "computer software" means, too.

I don't see any meaningful trend up or down for console launch prices in this data:
https://uk.ign.com/articles/2016/10/04/ ... -inflation

Here's a graph of that data. Adjusted for inflation, consoles are cheaper these days.
Author:  Grim... [ Wed Apr 24, 2019 17:34 ]
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/blinks
Author:  Goddess Jasmine [ Wed Apr 24, 2019 17:37 ]
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Grim... wrote:
/blinks

Belinda?!
Author:  Satsuma [ Wed Apr 24, 2019 17:47 ]
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In case anyone is too lazy to click it’s because of the Neo Geo & 3DO.

EDIT: Weren’t there different versions of the Neo Geo though. One was called Neo Geo AGS or something which was a bit cheaper ... maybe.

EDIT 2: Oh it was called the AES and that was the home console version of the arcade machine. There’s also the Neo Geo CD which was cheaper too. But much crapper.
Author:  Doctor Glyndwr [ Wed Apr 24, 2019 22:42 ]
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Grim... wrote:
/blinks

Don’t blink at me, Mr “I didn’t say the thing I blatantly said.”
Author:  zaphod79 [ Wed May 08, 2019 9:42 ]
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Putting this in here because it seems to be the only place we've talked about the new MK

https://twitter.com/WritNelson/status/1 ... 4643181570




Link : https://medium.com/token-interactive-pr ... 73b40dbedf
Author:  Mr Dave [ Wed May 08, 2019 13:03 ]
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That's all well and good, but how do I "be" Goro?
Author:  Pundabaya [ Wed May 08, 2019 18:47 ]
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You can't. He's dead.

Anyway, I thought everyone was moaning about the Towers of Time, not The Krypt?
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