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 Post subject: Re: Windows 10
PostPosted: Tue Nov 14, 2017 10:29 
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 Post subject: Re: Windows 10
PostPosted: Tue Nov 14, 2017 10:34 
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Did they decide not to remove it then? Or did I imagine it in an exceptionally boring dream?
Anyway, Paint 3D in Windows 10 is good.


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 Post subject: Re: Windows 10
PostPosted: Tue Nov 14, 2017 10:39 
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Did they decide not to remove it then? Or did I imagine it in an exceptionally boring dream?
Anyway, Paint 3D in Windows 10 is good.


They were going to remove it entirely--and I think they still technically have if you do a fresh install of the latest Win10 version--but they've put it up on the Windows Store to download for free so anyone who wants it can lay their hands on it.

ETA: https://www.theguardian.com/technology/ ... dows-store


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 Post subject: Re: Windows 10
PostPosted: Mon Mar 12, 2018 22:22 
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A useful, welcome tip from Windows 10.

Considering that this is on my main PC connected to the mains.

The 'battery' it's referring to is a UPS.....

It's not the first time it's lobbed this shit at me either. This evening it happened because I dared to invoke Firefox.

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 Post subject: Re: Windows 10
PostPosted: Tue Mar 13, 2018 11:03 
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I bought, and paid for, a Windows 10 Pro key about six months or so ago. The only issue with these keys is that you have to phone Microsoft and switch them to your hardware. Good thing is that they can only be switched once, so you know some poopy head isn't going to end up using your key. However, at the time the servers were down (I tried in vain for about a week) and so I erm "Activated" it myself. Ever since then Defender is desperate to get rid of the activation. It has tried numerous times to delete the tool that keeps it activated, even though I continually tell it to leave it alone. I wonder why that is? maybe they are not allowed to just delete it from your PC and must get you to allow it? IDK, strange.

Of course it's easily remedied by simply reinstalling Windows and activating the serial (if their servers are now back up). What was weird is that if you kept trying you got through to a call centre in India. Who of course could not understand me, nor what I was trying to do.

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 Post subject: Re: Windows 10
PostPosted: Tue Mar 13, 2018 11:49 
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I bought, and paid for, a Windows 10 Pro key about six months or so ago. The only issue with these keys is that you have to phone Microsoft and switch them to your hardware.
So you bought a bootleg enterprise key off a forum or Reddit for £10-20, yes?

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However, at the time the servers were down (I tried in vain for about a week)
I don't believe this is true. What you are suggesting happened is that no-one in the world could activate Windows for a week. Think about what you are saying and how big a story that would be. I think it's more likely you were sold a duff key.

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and so I erm "Activated" it myself.
You pirated it. Right.

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Ever since then Defender is desperate to get rid of the activation. It has tried numerous times to delete the tool that keeps it activated, even though I continually tell it to leave it alone. I wonder why that is? maybe they are not allowed to just delete it from your PC and must get you to allow it? IDK, strange.
It'll be because you pirated it HTH HAND. If you're lucky, the "tool" doesn't have any actual malware in it.

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Of course it's easily remedied by simply reinstalling Windows and activating the serial (if their servers are now back up). What was weird is that if you kept trying you got through to a call centre in India. Who of course could not understand me, nor what I was trying to do.
"Why won't Microsoft support my pirated operating system?"


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 Post subject: Re: Windows 10
PostPosted: Tue Mar 13, 2018 12:11 
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I bought the key from Amazon. From, who was at the time of purchasing, a reputable company. I made sure to read the feedback first of course. I ordered a new motherboard without thinking to take the serial out of the Alienware board I had before stripping the rig down. So it was a case of "Rebuild entire PC and take serial off" or "Buy key from Amazon from the same place I got two others from before". As for it being an Enterprise key or whatever else? How do I know? I just saw the key and bought it. As I said, I had done it twice before and the only downside I could see was that you had to phone Microsoft for a string of numbers and letters ETC to activate it. However when I phoned there was terrible interference on the line and thus I could not. And if I let it ring out it would go to a call centre in India and they couldn't understand me.

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I didn't ask why Microsoft won't support my operating system, but oddly they do. They key is genuine, however I would need to reinstall to activate it correctly which I CBA doing. Don't care about your accusations etc etc.

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 Post subject: Re: Windows 10
PostPosted: Tue Mar 13, 2018 12:17 
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It cost nine quid and you're acting surprised it might not be on the up-and-up?


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 Post subject: Re: Windows 10
PostPosted: Tue Mar 13, 2018 12:19 
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I've bought a few OEM codes for family systems. They work. Once. If you change practically any hardware, they'll deactivate. Which is fair enough.


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 Post subject: Re: Windows 10
PostPosted: Tue Mar 13, 2018 12:20 
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DavPaz wrote:
I've bought a few OEM codes for family systems. They work. Once. If you change practically any hardware, they'll deactivate. Which is fair enough.

:this:

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I bought the key from Amazon.

No, you bought the key from "Lizenzking".

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 Post subject: Re: Windows 10
PostPosted: Tue Mar 13, 2018 12:22 
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DavPaz wrote:
I've bought a few OEM codes for family systems. They work. Once. If you change practically any hardware, they'll deactivate. Which is fair enough.

They're a breach of the Microsoft licence for both you and the licence holder who's minting them and selling them on. The fact they generally work is an artefact of imperfect enforcement by Microsoft, nothing more. I don't care about anyone using them but subsequently getting butthurt at Microsoft detecting the copy of Windows isn't licensed is ridiculous.


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 Post subject: Re: Windows 10
PostPosted: Tue Mar 13, 2018 12:23 
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DavPaz wrote:
I've bought a few OEM codes for family systems. They work. Once. If you change practically any hardware, they'll deactivate. Which is fair enough.


They do, but it's still not legit. OEM keys are for OEMs, not consumers. I couldn't care less, but if you pay £9 for something that costs £100, tough shit if it gives you problems tbh.

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 Post subject: Re: Windows 10
PostPosted: Tue Mar 13, 2018 12:23 
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DavPaz wrote:
I've bought a few OEM codes for family systems. They work. Once. If you change practically any hardware, they'll deactivate. Which is fair enough.

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I bought the key from Amazon.

No, you bought the key from "Lizenzking".


He sounds legit.

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 Post subject: Re: Windows 10
PostPosted: Tue Mar 13, 2018 12:30 
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It cost nine quid and you're acting surprised it might not be on the up-and-up?


How do I know? I did what I would normally do and checked out the seller first. As I said, I had two from them before and they both activated fine once I phoned Microsoft. They also seemed quite professional, and would send you an invoice with your key on in the post.

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They also send out what appeared to be a proper invoice with the serial number on which I then put into the box the board came with. I have no idea where they come from but there were loads on Amazon. If the serial was bad or didn't work I would have got a refund, and would not have received it in the post.

I can activate it legitimately but that means hours of messing around. Next time I need to do a full reinstall I will do it then. As for Lizenking? Again, how do I know? all I know is I have Amazon's A-Z. So if it doesn't work I get refunded either way.

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I've bought a few OEM codes for family systems. They work. Once. If you change practically any hardware, they'll deactivate. Which is fair enough.


I activated two others by phone. One with the robot, one with a human voice. He told me that I could not transfer it again and this was the last switch because it was OEM, so I said that was fine. I would not have been a repeat customer three times if I suspected they were stolen/whatever else.

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 Post subject: Re: Windows 10
PostPosted: Tue Mar 13, 2018 12:32 
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I'm sure they are perfectly legit. But they're selling an OEM license key, which it says in the invoice, and you're not an OEM.

It's very widely done, so nobody's condemning you for doing it, but you don't really get to complain about Microsoft if you have problems with it.

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 Post subject: Re: Windows 10
PostPosted: Tue Mar 13, 2018 12:35 
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I'm sure they are perfectly legit. But they're selling an OEM license key, which it says in the invoice, and you're not an OEM.

It's very widely done, so nobody's condemning you for doing it, but you don't really get to complain about Microsoft if you have problems with it.


I wasn't complaining about it I was just saying that Windows Defender keeps trying to remove a file I have repeatedly told it not to lol.

TBH I hadn't even noticed the OEM part. That was only on the paper invoice :)

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 Post subject: Re: Windows 10
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Cras wrote:
I'm sure they are perfectly legit. But they're selling an OEM license key

Those two things don't go together ;)

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 Post subject: Re: Windows 10
PostPosted: Tue Mar 13, 2018 12:45 
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What's the file? If it's something you installed to bypass the activation check then well I can't exactly blame Defender for what it's doing :)

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 Post subject: Re: Windows 10
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Cras wrote:
I'm sure they are perfectly legit. But they're selling an OEM license key

Those two things don't go together ;)


Sure they do, if they say 'you promise you're an OEM, right? Definitely buying this key for resale with a retail system, right?' ;)

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 Post subject: Re: Windows 10
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Something exploiting this perhaps...

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 Post subject: Re: Windows 10
PostPosted: Tue Mar 13, 2018 12:53 
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What's the file? If it's something you installed to bypass the activation check then well I can't exactly blame Defender for what it's doing :)


Nah I can't either it's just annoying haha.

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 Post subject: Re: Windows 10
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Any reason why I can't RDC into my desktop from my laptop? Both on Windows 10, I've tried PC name and IP address, checked that the host has RDC enabled, even disabled/re-enabled the firewall rules, but to no avail. I've rebooted both machines, nada. I've tried connecting with credentials and with no credentials, no dice. It's not working.

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 Post subject: Re: Windows 10
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Why didn't they call it W1nd0ws? Opportunity missed.

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 Post subject: Re: Windows 10
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You on Home or Pro?

It doesn't work on Home without jiggery pokery.

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 Post subject: Re: Windows 10
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It is indeed Home.

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 Post subject: Re: Windows 10
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In that case, officially, it's disabled in Home. (You need Pro or Enterprise.)

Unofficially, there are things like this, but I haven't actually tried them.

Completely at your own risk, obviously!

EDIT - Turns out MS have broken this with Windows Updates, doesn't look like it'll work now anyway.

https://www.ctrl.blog/entry/how-to-rdpw ... win10-home
https://www.download3k.com/articles/How ... tion-02036

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 Post subject: Re: Windows 10
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Thanks but I probably won't bother then. It was only for one specific use case and I have another route I can take.

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 Post subject: Re: Windows 10
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Use Teamviewer.

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 Post subject: Re: Windows 10
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I was under the impression you had to pay for that. I have had some experience of using it before it was banned at my old place.

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 Post subject: Re: Windows 10
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No, it's free for personal use. It's handy to install on a parent's PC, too.

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