Yeah, cause Thatcher took us out of Europe. Oh no.
Really not in a good mood for this puerile shite.

I'm really not in the mood for this so probably best I avoid saying something in anger I might later regret.

Let's not get personal here, people (all people).

What the fuck are you dribbling on about?

Let's not get personal here, people (all people).

I genuinely haven't the first clue what he's talking about?

Ok, it is an emotional time for all at the moment, let's try not turning on each other right now. We could all do with a bit of support.

I posted this before but I broadly agree with this analysis
http://www.perc.org.uk/project_posts/th ... of-brexit/

Thatcherism & New Labour's failure to mend the harm it caused are a major explanation for why many people, especially in the North, voted Leave.

I'm telling you it's absolutely the people getting fucked that have voted us out. Why are they blaming foreigners/people with different coloured skin? because the reality that their own government could fuck them this badly and really not give a fuck is far too hard to comprehend. They actually think it's the fault of the Polish/Muslims etc.

So instead we get the demonising of people and races and creeds.

I will type up a post soon because tbh I can't go on like this. Fucking hiding from every forum I frequent and being torn to pieces by people with no sense of reality at all.

I'm telling you it's absolutely the people getting fucked that have voted us out. Why are they blaming foreigners/people with different coloured skin? because the reality that their own government could fuck them this badly and really not give a fuck is far too hard to comprehend. They actually think it's the fault of the Polish/Muslims etc.

So instead we get the demonising of people and races and creeds.

I will type up a post soon because tbh I can't go on like this. Fucking hiding from every forum I frequent and being torn to pieces by people with no sense of reality at all.

But what is it I have supposedly done to you?

Lol.
Yeah, I must have an alter ego or something.

Got a screenshot for non-subs?

Wait, you think that this is a good thing that races and creeds are demonised? Surely if you recognise that this is bad and that it is the government at fault, you'd vote remain rather than ally with the far right and get a more right wing government hellbent on increasing austerity and further screwing over the poor?

Wait, you think that this is a good thing that races and creeds are demonised? Surely if you recognise that this is bad and that it is the government at fault, you'd vote remain rather than ally with the far right and get a more right wing government hellbent on increasing austerity and further screwing over the poor?

Ian Duncan Smith, the man who's spent the last 10 years demolishing disability support in the UK, was running the leave campaign.

tl;dr you voted Leave to fuck the Tories, without ever stopping to consider that the Leave campaign was run by Tories.

Edit -- including IDS, the man who architected cutting your benefits to the bone.

John, you've basically written a page of reasons why voting for leave would be an utterly terribly choice, for you specifically. And that's why a lot of people are angry at leave voters. Because they've outright voted to harm everyone in the country, and the poor and vulnerable most of all, for reasons that have nothing to do with the EU - and in the most case, for reasons that the EU has helped to make less bad than they would otherwise have been.

Obviously the racists and so on are the ones being demonised right now.

This country is going the way of the USA and the poor are powerless to stop it. All they can do is get some satisfaction that they lost some cocky smarmy cunt his job.

I'm telling you, that's where your 52% comes from. Obviously the racists and so on are the ones being demonised right now. See? like I say, our country is fucking good at that. Ignore the actual fundamental reason why people reacted in anger and spite and blame it on a bunch of dummity cunts.

Well... Good?

Leave vs. Remain voters is an awfully convenient zeitgeist to draw attention from the fact that, despite whatever legitimate reasons people had for their vote, Leave has legitimised xenophobia. This is a massive failing in the Leave campaign, and needs to be acknowledged by both sides before it gets worse. Those people need to know that there isn't room for their views in modern, globalised Britain.

Also, I'm not saying anyone here specifically has said this, but the whole "informed voter" thing is starting to irk me. What the hell is an informed vote anyway? I guess that disqualifies everyone apart from experts from voting, eh? So long as people did not cast a vote for xenophobic reasons, I honestly don't condemn anyone for having voted either side — that sort of dichotomy is exactly what makes American politics so fucking horrendous and it saddens me to see that in the UK.

I'm not even saying that people shouldn't be angry at the result, but surely now it's about trying to make progress as a nation rather than finger-pointing? Would be so much better if there was actually decisive leadership at the helm, what a total disaster.

Well... Yeah dude but they're not the cause of this problem. They are being painted as it, though. They're the ones being quoted and so on.

I don't see any articles about some poor cunt who lost his job to an immigrant because he knew he could not afford to survive on that amount of money?

or the disabled cunt like me who is being screwed over because the bankers fucked up?

It goes a lot deeper than some bigot twat with no brains. However, as I said it's them being demonised right now (even if they deserve it it's all completely misguided).

I did. I understood it all perfectly. I knew about the trade deals and all of the other positive things we got from it but still I would have voted in anger. Like I said, either way I am going to get fucked. So are the people with money though, so hey, at least we all pretty much feel the same way right now.

Sorry JC. I do sympathise with your anger. I've had a bit of a bad start to life, my mother had her disability benefit taken away from her despite the fact she couldn't stand... Many things I've written about here, and many more things I sadly can't, or wouldn't.

But oh my goodness, as much as I can read your pain your choice to leave has screwed everyone. Your friends and neighbours, the younger generations who won't have a chance. It's given justification for racism to the worst people in our society, and the failures that follow will hit those struggling most already the hardest.

As a side-point, my mum's ex-partner is from Brixton. It's full of racists. He is mixed-race and has been on the recieving end of enough of it. Being from a multi-cultural area does not mean that you are not a racist. I'm not saying that you are, I have no comment on that, but it's not s good idea to use the idea that you live near people of different races as proof that you can't be racist.

So it didn't go the way people were expecting it to? of course not. This has to be THE best Epic Fail ever. Cameron was so confident in himself and the rich people he hangs out with who all probably wanted to stay in that he simply didn't understand. How many people out there that had grudges against him and his band of merry men (glares at IDC) and so on.

Will their lives change much? maybe. Maybe they'll lose a few quid as the pound plummets.