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PostPosted: Fri Jan 15, 2021 10:18 
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Is that fish eating a courgette? What the heck? :DD That’s some fancy kind of aquarium friend you have there. What is it? We just have some platys for Darwin, but they are great orange girlies.

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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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It is, yes - they like courgette :)

He's a blue-eyed lemon bristlenose pleco.

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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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He’s great! Are they a bit like catfish? He looks a bit like a cross between The Lorax and a humming fish.


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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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That's a salad.

It does look suspiciously like he’s prepared himself as sushi.

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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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They're a type of catfish, yes. The Plecostomus family is 300+ types of suckermouth catfish. Bristlenose plecos are good for home tanks because they don't grow more than 5-6 inches and they're not too territorial.

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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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It’s great, and also slightly scary, and a lot bigger than I thought.

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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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I've still got my website closed at the moment, mainly due to lockdown, but also partly while I decide what to do about my EU customers and whether I should even ship internationally at all for a while.

In the meantime, some of my regulars are already proposing solutions to avoid them having to pay customs charges:

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so yesterday I learnt what escamotage means (trickery or sleight of hand), but 'fraud' seems a more accurate description. Obviously I won't be going along with it.


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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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That's a good example of the new costs and red tape small businesses across the country are having to deal with.

Who's your MP? Might be fun to write to them asking for their advice, particularity if they voted for the agreement.

Of course, you can always just lie back and think of all that lovely sovereignty.


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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
PostPosted: Mon Jan 25, 2021 10:28 
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Oh, and thanks for the new word!

Giphy "escamotage":
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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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I remember play.com used to play fast and loose with customs rules. Everything was less than £20 and the p&p was shocking. But IIRC they were based in Jersey


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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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I used to use play.com all the time. It was great!


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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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I used to get my Region 1 DVDs from them. Had The Matrix and Blair Witch Project before the UK cinema release


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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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Also handy to get uncut R1 DVDs, as the BBFC were notoriously scissor happy at the time. Still got the R1 DVDs I bought from play.com back in the day on the shelves upstairs.

(Even The Matrix got cut in the UK, I imported the R1 DVD and as noted above, also got it early.)

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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
PostPosted: Mon Jan 25, 2021 11:16 
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I've still got my website closed at the moment, mainly due to lockdown, but also partly while I decide what to do about my EU customers and whether I should even ship internationally at all for a while.

In the meantime, some of my regulars are already proposing solutions to avoid them having to pay customs charges:

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so yesterday I learnt what escamotage means (trickery or sleight of hand), but 'fraud' seems a more accurate description. Obviously I won't be going along with it.

A couple of my friends with small businesses keep being asked to falsely declare the amount on customs forms/receipts and have had angry responses when they’ve said they can’t do that, usually finished with a ‘You deserve to have no business, Brexit idiots!’ parting shot, which hurts doubly when you’ve been stridently anti-Brexit from the start, seen it happen to your distress, are now losing business and dealing with that :(

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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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What you state is the value is immaterial to customs, if they stop the parcel they will define the value and charge accordingly.
That's how it used to be anyway.


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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
PostPosted: Mon Jan 25, 2021 11:22 
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Yeah, someone said there was a set idea of value on ‘wool and animal fibres’, but it didn’t seem to fit the value of their items at all (seeing as you can spend between £4-80 on a ball of animal fibre yarn).

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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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Mimi wrote:
devilman wrote:
I've still got my website closed at the moment, mainly due to lockdown, but also partly while I decide what to do about my EU customers and whether I should even ship internationally at all for a while.

In the meantime, some of my regulars are already proposing solutions to avoid them having to pay customs charges:

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so yesterday I learnt what escamotage means (trickery or sleight of hand), but 'fraud' seems a more accurate description. Obviously I won't be going along with it.

A couple of my friends with small businesses keep being asked to falsely declare the amount on customs forms/receipts and have had angry responses when they’ve said they can’t do that, usually finished with a ‘You deserve to have no business, Brexit idiots!’ parting shot, which hurts doubly when you’ve been stridently anti-Brexit from the start, seen it happen to your distress, are now losing business and dealing with that :(


Absolutely. I'm lucky that my site isn't my main income, so that if I do go UK-only, I'll still get regular orders, but I'd estimate at least 50% of the site income came from the EU, so there's going to be a significant hit there.

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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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DavPaz wrote:
I used to get my Region 1 DVDs from them. Had The Matrix and Blair Witch Project before the UK cinema release


Didn't everyone. It was mandatory, along with a Samsung DVD player that you could make region free with a universal remote.


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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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I used to get my Region 1 DVDs from them. Had The Matrix and Blair Witch Project before the UK cinema release


Didn't everyone. It was mandatory, along with a Samsung DVD player that you could make region free with a universal remote.


Heh :)

https://www.beexcellenttoeachother.com/ ... wa#p711486

Bizarrely, you could also soft-mod it with a handful of very specific AIWA stereos of the time, and it just so happened we owned one of the ones on this list.

I can't remember the button combo, and you had to do it every time you turned the DVD player on (Samsung 709, fact fans), but it allowed R1 DVDs to play.

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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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Ah yes, the 709. I couldn’t remember the model number but that’s definitely it.
Oh, and Starship Troopers on a flipper DVD.


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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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It's alright, I've only been waiting for this parcel since November....


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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
PostPosted: Thu Mar 18, 2021 8:04 
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Hey, it's not a delay, it's the Sovereignty Bonus!

In other news, Dominic Raab tells some Americans that it's not me, it's EU

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Raab said: It is the EU that by trying to erect a barrier down the Irish Sea between Northern Ireland and Great Britain that is challenging the spirit of Northern Ireland Protocol and the Good Friday agreement


*sigh* No, this was something Boris Johnson agreed to and then Parliament voted for. International treaties are not Itunes EULA - you should have read and understood it before agreeing to it. You broke it, you own it.

Also, I'm not sure that criticising the Irish to a US audience on St Patrick's Day was the wisest move, but then Raab only recently discovered Dover.


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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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I was hoping that at least Brexit would mean that UK politicians would no longer be able to blame their bad descisions on the EU.


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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
PostPosted: Thu Mar 18, 2021 11:16 
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If they think the EU's being mean, imagine how nasty the US will be. It's almost as if size matters.


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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
PostPosted: Mon Mar 22, 2021 14:29 
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Oh my

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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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Pah. You clearly haven't looked at the list of seminars available on the official government opportunities site. Up first was "selling food in Mongolia". I'm sure it was massively over-subscribed so I am hugely reassured and certain these changes can be fixed really easily.


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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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Pah. You clearly haven't looked at the list of seminars available on the official government opportunities site. Up first was "selling food in Mongolia". I'm sure it was massively over-subscribed so I am hugely reassured and certain these changes can be fixed really easily.


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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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It might be even more popular than I'd thought - Midlands only! Hope I haven't raised anyone's hopes.

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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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Well you have now!

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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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Does anybody now have an idea of how ordering things from the EU works, post Brexit. I want to order something around £15 in cost, from The Netherlands, but I’m worried about being stung by import duties as I don’t understand at all how it works and when I search the information is so very confused that I feel I now know less than when I knew nothing.

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Mimi wrote:
Does anybody now have an idea of how ordering things from the EU works, post Brexit.


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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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More seriously, it's just VAT for anything under £135 at which point duty and a handling fee kick in.


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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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More seriously, it's just VAT for anything under £135 at which point duty and a handling fee kick in.


And also expect a really long delivery delay


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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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Problem is that "just" is a ballache for everyone involved that doesn't have an office on both sides of the channel

Amazon is doing a roaring trade dealing with it on behalf of everyone "fulfilled by Amazon"


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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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Thanks everyone. I was struggling to wrap my head around it. I was hoping to order some bulbs from The Netherlands, so I’ll have to check my timings to see how long they might take to arrive. Thanks for the safe and simple advice.

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Mimi wrote:
It’s great, and also slightly scary, and a lot bigger than I thought.

Very delayed title of your sex tape.

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‘It’s a betrayal’: Cornish fishing vote turns against Tories over Brexit deal
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Bosustow, 48, a Brexit supporter, will not be supporting the Tories on 6 May. “We are not going to forget when it comes to voting time,” he says. “I don’t feel like they [the Conservatives] deserve my vote at the moment.”

Further down the quay, Brackan Pearce, 28, is restocking his trawler. He travelled up the Thames as part of a flotilla of fishing boats demanding control of British waters during the referendum campaign in 2016. Now he feels betrayed. “They lied to us. They’ve used us to get Brexit. Without the boats going up the Thames, Brexit would never have happened,” he says from the deck of his boat.



I mean, I want to sympathise, but they won. They should get over it.

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Mimi wrote:
It’s great, and also slightly scary, and a lot bigger than I thought.

Very delayed title of your sex tape.

I had to scroll through quite a way to work out what I was even referring to, but it was Craster’s huge ginger ...fish :D

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Speaking of fish, here's another amazing Brexit bonus:

BBC wrote:
UK fleets will have no access to Norway's sub-Arctic waters

BBC: UK and Norway fail to reach fishing deal

According to the article, we can still import fish caught by Norwegian vessels tariff-free, so we're still benefiting from our exciting trade freedom.
Go-go Global Britain!


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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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Top story on the news this morning was about the Royal Navy protecting post-Brexit fishing rights. It would be churlish to make a cynical connection between the government's decision to release that story and the fact it's an election day where the broadcasters refrain from political reporting.

I suppose I'm a churl, then.


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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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5 years. Sheesh.

Had I known how things would pan out, how awfully cynical the out campaign would be, how people would take the chance to punch the government in the balls when given the opportunity, how successive administrations would completely fuck everything up and make the wrong choices at every opportunity, I doubt I'd have be so flippant and occasionally trolling in this thread and elsewhere as I was.

Like Cameron, I thought it was just going to be a long forgotten memory once remain won, probably 52-48. With the result flipped, I thought that the EEA would be the acceptable grudging compromise.. This still seems like the missed path, and made a lot of a sense as for years I was of the view that there'd be a time when some states decided to integrate further whilst others, like the UK, joined an outer orbit. It's probably the case that we'll end up somewhere like that over time as the world opens up post-Covid and people start seeing how distant we are for everything. I took no account of how nasty and rapid the Tory party would be

I do feel like I've learnt far more about how the EU operates, the realities of trade and power projection, and the interconnectedness of everything in the past five years than I ever did before, and that's even counting my degrees in politics.


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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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Five years after the event, and the UK doesn't have the strength to stand up to even UEFA.

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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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Have we reached the bit where Johnson throws a shoe over the pub?


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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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Now we've reached July 1st, it's worth bearing in mind the changes that come in today. Even low-value stuff shipped from the EU will be liable for VAT now. This is one of the big reasons I've paused shipping internationally for now.

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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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PMQs, today:

"Cherilyn Mackrory (Con) says there is real concern in the Cornish daffodil industry that they won’t have enough pickers this year."

Here's an article from four years ago warning that

"... industry could be seriously hurt by a lack of access [post Brexit] to a migrant workforce"

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One daffodils producer in Cornwall, who did not want to be named, said the horticultural industry could be seriously hurt by a lack of access to a migrant workforce.He said that while firms in Cornwall - which produces 80 per cent of all daffodils in the world - may employ 40 staff all year round, they could recruit up to 800 people during the picking season, most of them EU migrants.

The daffodils farmer agreed picking flowers was a hard way to earn a living but said it was an industry that paid well, regardless of whether you are from Budapest or Penzance.

However he admitted that seasonality and working long hours may deter British people, especially those on benefits as they would lose their payments for taking on seasonal work.

He said: "The quality of our pickers has an impact on our balance sheet. We try to do what's best for our workers. We want a high percentage of returnees. It is hard work but a good picker can earn good money.

"All of our jobs are advertised locally too but we don't get many takers, which is why we rely on migrant workers so much. Brexit has created a degree of uncertainty for migrant workers who are now reconsidering their position and whether to work in Britain or not. There has been a surge in anti-foreigners sentiments which is not helping either."

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