Taking the Brexit

Zardoz · **Posted:** Fri Jan 15, 2021 10:18

That's a salad.

Mimi · **Joined:** 27th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 23047

Is that fish eating a courgette? What the heck? :DD

That’s some fancy kind of aquarium friend you have there. What is it? We just have some platys for Darwin, but they are great orange girlies.

Cras · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 48752

It is, yes - they like courgette

He's a blue-eyed lemon bristlenose pleco.

Mimi · **Joined:** 27th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 23047

He’s great! Are they a bit like catfish? He looks a bit like a cross between The Lorax and a humming fish.

Mimi · **Joined:** 27th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 23047

Zardoz wrote:

That's a salad.

It does look suspiciously like he’s prepared himself as sushi.

Cras · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 48752

They're a type of catfish, yes. The Plecostomus family is 300+ types of suckermouth catfish. Bristlenose plecos are good for home tanks because they don't grow more than 5-6 inches and they're not too territorial.

Mimi · **Joined:** 27th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 23047

It’s great, and also slightly scary, and a lot bigger than I thought.

devilman · **Posted:** Mon Jan 25, 2021 10:01

I've still got my website closed at the moment, mainly due to lockdown, but also partly while I decide what to do about my EU customers and whether I should even ship internationally at all for a while.

In the meantime, some of my regulars are already proposing solutions to avoid them having to pay customs charges:

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so yesterday I learnt what escamotage means (trickery or sleight of hand), but 'fraud' seems a more accurate description. Obviously I won't be going along with it.

Kern · **Posted:** Mon Jan 25, 2021 10:28

That's a good example of the new costs and red tape small businesses across the country are having to deal with.

Who's your MP? Might be fun to write to them asking for their advice, particularity if they voted for the agreement.

Of course, you can always just lie back and think of all that lovely sovereignty.

Kern · **Posted:** Mon Jan 25, 2021 10:28

Oh, and thanks for the new word!

Giphy "escamotage":
https://media4.giphy.com/media/5ttKizoQCq2Xu/giphy-loop.mp4

DavPaz · **Joined:** 27th Jun, 2008 **Posts:** 37098

I remember play.com used to play fast and loose with customs rules. Everything was less than £20 and the p&p was shocking. But IIRC they were based in Jersey

TheVision · **Posted:** Mon Jan 25, 2021 10:45

I used to use play.com all the time. It was great!

DavPaz · **Joined:** 27th Jun, 2008 **Posts:** 37098

I used to get my Region 1 DVDs from them. Had The Matrix and Blair Witch Project before the UK cinema release

Hearthly · **Joined:** 11th May, 2008 **Posts:** 13178

Also handy to get uncut R1 DVDs, as the BBFC were notoriously scissor happy at the time. Still got the R1 DVDs I bought from play.com back in the day on the shelves upstairs.

(Even The Matrix got cut in the UK, I imported the R1 DVD and as noted above, also got it early.)

Mimi · **Joined:** 27th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 23047

devilman wrote:

I've still got my website closed at the moment, mainly due to lockdown, but also partly while I decide what to do about my EU customers and whether I should even ship internationally at all for a while.

In the meantime, some of my regulars are already proposing solutions to avoid them having to pay customs charges:

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so yesterday I learnt what escamotage means (trickery or sleight of hand), but 'fraud' seems a more accurate description. Obviously I won't be going along with it.

A couple of my friends with small businesses keep being asked to falsely declare the amount on customs forms/receipts and have had angry responses when they’ve said they can’t do that, usually finished with a ‘You deserve to have no business, Brexit idiots!’ parting shot, which hurts doubly when you’ve been stridently anti-Brexit from the start, seen it happen to your distress, are now losing business and dealing with that

Trooper · **Joined:** 4th Mar, 2010 **Posts:** 21724

What you state is the value is immaterial to customs, if they stop the parcel they will define the value and charge accordingly.
That's how it used to be anyway.

Mimi · **Joined:** 27th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 23047

Yeah, someone said there was a set idea of value on ‘wool and animal fibres’, but it didn’t seem to fit the value of their items at all (seeing as you can spend between £4-80 on a ball of animal fibre yarn).

devilman · **Posted:** Mon Jan 25, 2021 11:50

Mimi wrote:

devilman wrote:

I've still got my website closed at the moment, mainly due to lockdown, but also partly while I decide what to do about my EU customers and whether I should even ship internationally at all for a while.

In the meantime, some of my regulars are already proposing solutions to avoid them having to pay customs charges:

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escamotage.PNG

so yesterday I learnt what escamotage means (trickery or sleight of hand), but 'fraud' seems a more accurate description. Obviously I won't be going along with it.

A couple of my friends with small businesses keep being asked to falsely declare the amount on customs forms/receipts and have had angry responses when they’ve said they can’t do that, usually finished with a ‘You deserve to have no business, Brexit idiots!’ parting shot, which hurts doubly when you’ve been stridently anti-Brexit from the start, seen it happen to your distress, are now losing business and dealing with that

Absolutely. I'm lucky that my site isn't my main income, so that if I do go UK-only, I'll still get regular orders, but I'd estimate at least 50% of the site income came from the EU, so there's going to be a significant hit there.

Dr Zoidberg · **Joined:** 15th Oct, 2010 **Posts:** 4364

DavPaz wrote:

I used to get my Region 1 DVDs from them. Had The Matrix and Blair Witch Project before the UK cinema release

Didn't everyone. It was mandatory, along with a Samsung DVD player that you could make region free with a universal remote.

Hearthly · **Joined:** 11th May, 2008 **Posts:** 13178

Dr Zoidberg wrote:

DavPaz wrote:

I used to get my Region 1 DVDs from them. Had The Matrix and Blair Witch Project before the UK cinema release

Didn't everyone. It was mandatory, along with a Samsung DVD player that you could make region free with a universal remote.

Heh

https://www.beexcellenttoeachother.com/ ... wa#p711486

Bizarrely, you could also soft-mod it with a handful of very specific AIWA stereos of the time, and it just so happened we owned one of the ones on this list.

I can't remember the button combo, and you had to do it every time you turned the DVD player on (Samsung 709, fact fans), but it allowed R1 DVDs to play.

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Dr Zoidberg · **Joined:** 15th Oct, 2010 **Posts:** 4364

Ah yes, the 709. I couldn’t remember the model number but that’s definitely it.
Oh, and Starship Troopers on a flipper DVD.

TheVision · **Posted:** Tue Mar 16, 2021 13:39

It's alright, I've only been waiting for this parcel since November....

Kern · **Posted:** Thu Mar 18, 2021 8:04

Hey, it's not a delay, it's the Sovereignty Bonus!

In other news, Dominic Raab tells some Americans that it's not me, it's EU

Guardian wrote:

Raab said: It is the EU that by trying to erect a barrier down the Irish Sea between Northern Ireland and Great Britain that is challenging the spirit of Northern Ireland Protocol and the Good Friday agreement

*sigh* No, this was something Boris Johnson agreed to and then Parliament voted for. International treaties are not Itunes EULA - you should have read and understood it before agreeing to it. You broke it, you own it.

Also, I'm not sure that criticising the Irish to a US audience on St Patrick's Day was the wisest move, but then Raab only recently discovered Dover.

Squirt · **Joined:** 31st Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 6132

I was hoping that at least Brexit would mean that UK politicians would no longer be able to blame their bad descisions on the EU.

Kern · **Posted:** Thu Mar 18, 2021 11:16

If they think the EU's being mean, imagine how nasty the US will be. It's almost as if size matters.

MaliA · **Posted:** Mon Mar 22, 2021 14:29

Oh my

https://twitter.com/adampayne26/status/ ... 1998915585

The @Foodanddrinkfed has published a snapshot of UK food & drink exports in January to accompany the ONS data. Stark stats galore: Salmon exports to the EU fell by 98% compared to Jan 2020, beef by 91.5%. Pork (-86.9%) & cheese (-85.1%) close behind. Exports to ðŸ‡®ðŸ‡ª fell by 84.9%. pic.twitter.com/ofLxYP9ugW
— Adam Payne (@adampayne26) March 22, 2021

JBR · **Joined:** 2nd Jun, 2008 **Posts:** 2534

Pah. You clearly haven't looked at the list of seminars available on the official government opportunities site. Up first was "selling food in Mongolia". I'm sure it was massively over-subscribed so I am hugely reassured and certain these changes can be fixed really easily.

TheVision · **Posted:** Mon Mar 22, 2021 14:51

JBR wrote:

Pah. You clearly haven't looked at the list of seminars available on the official government opportunities site. Up first was "selling food in Mongolia". I'm sure it was massively over-subscribed so I am hugely reassured and certain these changes can be fixed really easily.

JBR · **Joined:** 2nd Jun, 2008 **Posts:** 2534

It might be even more popular than I'd thought - Midlands only! Hope I haven't raised anyone's hopes.

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myp · **Posted:** Mon Mar 22, 2021 17:34

Well you have now!

Mimi · **Joined:** 27th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 23047

Does anybody now have an idea of how ordering things from the EU works, post Brexit. I want to order something around £15 in cost, from The Netherlands, but I’m worried about being stung by import duties as I don’t understand at all how it works and when I search the information is so very confused that I feel I now know less than when I knew nothing.

Dr Zoidberg · **Joined:** 15th Oct, 2010 **Posts:** 4364

Mimi wrote:

Does anybody now have an idea of how ordering things from the EU works, post Brexit.

Badly

Dr Zoidberg · **Joined:** 15th Oct, 2010 **Posts:** 4364

More seriously, it's just VAT for anything under £135 at which point duty and a handling fee kick in.

zaphod79 · **Joined:** 16th Apr, 2008 **Posts:** 14208

Dr Zoidberg wrote:

More seriously, it's just VAT for anything under £135 at which point duty and a handling fee kick in.

And also expect a really long delivery delay

BikNorton · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 9452

Problem is that "just" is a ballache for everyone involved that doesn't have an office on both sides of the channel

Amazon is doing a roaring trade dealing with it on behalf of everyone "fulfilled by Amazon"

Mimi · **Joined:** 27th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 23047

Thanks everyone. I was struggling to wrap my head around it. I was hoping to order some bulbs from The Netherlands, so I’ll have to check my timings to see how long they might take to arrive. Thanks for the safe and simple advice.

Grim... · **Posted:** Mon Apr 26, 2021 1:46

Mimi wrote:

It’s great, and also slightly scary, and a lot bigger than I thought.

Very delayed title of your sex tape.

MaliA · **Posted:** Mon Apr 26, 2021 7:53

‘It’s a betrayal’: Cornish fishing vote turns against Tories over Brexit deal

Quote:

Bosustow, 48, a Brexit supporter, will not be supporting the Tories on 6 May. “We are not going to forget when it comes to voting time,” he says. “I don’t feel like they [the Conservatives] deserve my vote at the moment.”

Further down the quay, Brackan Pearce, 28, is restocking his trawler. He travelled up the Thames as part of a flotilla of fishing boats demanding control of British waters during the referendum campaign in 2016. Now he feels betrayed. “They lied to us. They’ve used us to get Brexit. Without the boats going up the Thames, Brexit would never have happened,” he says from the deck of his boat.

I mean, I want to sympathise, but they won. They should get over it.

Mimi · **Joined:** 27th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 23047

Grim... wrote:

Mimi wrote:

It’s great, and also slightly scary, and a lot bigger than I thought.

Very delayed title of your sex tape.

I had to scroll through quite a way to work out what I was even referring to, but it was Craster’s huge ginger ...fish

Kern · **Posted:** Fri Apr 30, 2021 8:01

Speaking of fish, here's another amazing Brexit bonus:

BBC wrote:

UK fleets will have no access to Norway's sub-Arctic waters

BBC: UK and Norway fail to reach fishing deal

According to the article, we can still import fish caught by Norwegian vessels tariff-free, so we're still benefiting from our exciting trade freedom.
Go-go Global Britain!

Kern · **Posted:** Thu May 06, 2021 8:16

Top story on the news this morning was about the Royal Navy protecting post-Brexit fishing rights. It would be churlish to make a cynical connection between the government's decision to release that story and the fact it's an election day where the broadcasters refrain from political reporting.

I suppose I'm a churl, then.

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