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Author:  Nik [ Thu Sep 12, 2019 10:21 ]
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Kern wrote:
Nik wrote:
Meanwhile, I'm enjoying the references to Ian "Fucking" Dunt in this month's Viz. Someone there is clearly a listener/follower.


Heh! Excellent.

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Author:  Kern [ Thu Sep 12, 2019 10:31 ]
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Nik wrote:
At the risk of being catastrophic:
https://twitter.com/jeffgrim71/status/1 ... 6150567936





Disgusting.

Author:  Nik [ Thu Sep 12, 2019 10:36 ]
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(Mr Dunt himself has retweeted my posting of those Viz scans, and now my watch is buzzing like mad.)

Author:  Kern [ Thu Sep 12, 2019 10:44 ]
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Nik wrote:
(Mr Dunt himself has retweeted my posting of those Viz scans, and now my watch is buzzing like mad.)


Excellent!

Author:  Findus Fop [ Thu Sep 12, 2019 11:55 ]
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Nik wrote:
(Mr Dunt himself has retweeted my posting of those Viz scans, and now my watch is buzzing like mad.)


Give yourself an exciting Arab strap!

I wonder if Kanye has ever done that. Tweet something, attach his watch to his cock and then feel the love as all the likes and retweets in.

So, serious question, how many retweets would you need in order to come?

Author:  Grim... [ Thu Sep 12, 2019 12:56 ]
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Nik wrote:
(Mr Dunt himself has retweeted my posting of those Viz scans, and now my watch is buzzing like mad.)

Well, it's been at least a month since anyone got angry with you about their copyright.

Author:  Nik [ Thu Sep 12, 2019 13:08 ]
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Well, I’ve plugged Viz, so hopefully they won’t mind. :)

Author:  Nik [ Thu Sep 12, 2019 22:16 ]
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Grim... wrote:
Nik wrote:
(Mr Dunt himself has retweeted my posting of those Viz scans, and now my watch is buzzing like mad.)

Well, it's been at least a month since anyone got angry with you about their copyright.

One of the problems with autism is that I tend not to know how to interpret replies, so (e.g. here) I don’t know if I’m being mocked, criticised, reprimanded, or just a bit paranoid, but, after initially taking things at face value (and responding as such), I end up with it preying on my mind for hours, until I crack and post something like this. My best guess is that I should stop using this place to moan about self-inflicted intellectual property dramas?

Author:  Mimi [ Thu Sep 12, 2019 22:23 ]
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Nik wrote:
Grim... wrote:
Nik wrote:
(Mr Dunt himself has retweeted my posting of those Viz scans, and now my watch is buzzing like mad.)

Well, it's been at least a month since anyone got angry with you about their copyright.

One of the problems with autism is that I tend not to know how to interpret replies, so (e.g. here) I don’t know if I’m being mocked, criticised, reprimanded, or just a bit paranoid, but, after initially taking things at face value (and responding as such), I end up with it preying on my mind for hours, until I crack and post something like this. My best guess is that I should stop using this place to moan about self-inflicted intellectual property dramas?

No. I mean, I don’t think Grim... is mocking you (though that’s just how I’m reading it) more that he just has a dry humour. Grim...’s pretty lovely. But even if someone were just being nasty for whatever reason, that’d just be one person. Or two, or five. We’ve all on here hurt someone accidentally, and most of us on purpose, but honestly so many people will tell you that there’s a safe place here for when you’re having a bad time of things, and I know that some of your. Ad times have been around that.

Anyway, I think it’s more like ‘you had to generate SOME way for a notable person to interact with you on The Twitters’.

Author:  Nik [ Thu Sep 12, 2019 22:31 ]
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Ah thanks Mimi, that makes sense. Sorry, as I say, I’m a bit paranoid. Not that I’m trying to suggest I’m above mockery, obviously. I didn’t mean to imply Grim... was in the wrong, regardless of intention.

I guess I should have posted “IDGI”.

Author:  MaliA [ Fri Sep 13, 2019 16:22 ]
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Kern wrote:
I believe there is also a particular writ a judge can serve requiring somebody to act. Can't remember what it's called.


Well remembered...

Author:  MaliA [ Mon Sep 16, 2019 17:25 ]
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I see our beloved PM had a great afternoon

Author:  Kern [ Mon Sep 16, 2019 18:40 ]
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I mean, Luxemburg! The headlines will write themselves.

Author:  MaliA [ Wed Sep 18, 2019 8:14 ]
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https://twitter.com/DPhinnemore/status/ ... 0428221441




Oh

Quote:
Another official describes the prime minister gradually “slumping” in his chair as the reality of the UK’s negotiating position and the limited time left to strike an agreement dawned on him. “He wasn’t used to hearing it”, added the official.


Oh

Author:  Nik [ Wed Sep 18, 2019 8:25 ]
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Meanwhile, Corbyn still insists there's such a thing as a "sensible Brexit", thereby basically inviting people to vote Lib Dem: https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... referendum

Author:  markg [ Wed Sep 18, 2019 8:31 ]
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I'd say that at this point the Lib Dem plan of clicking their heels and saying there's no place like home is the more naive one.

Author:  Kern [ Wed Sep 18, 2019 8:32 ]
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MaliA wrote:
https://twitter.com/DPhinnemore/status/1174212230428221441

Oh

Quote:
Another official describes the prime minister gradually “slumping” in his chair as the reality of the UK’s negotiating position and the limited time left to strike an agreement dawned on him. “He wasn’t used to hearing it”, added the official.


Oh


I'm starting to think that perhaps comedy panel shows are not the best recruiting grounds for high political office.

Author:  Nik [ Wed Sep 18, 2019 8:59 ]
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markg wrote:
I'd say that at this point the Lib Dem plan of clicking their heels and saying there's no place like home is the more naive one.

Maybe... In terms of purely winning votes (which obviously isn't the be all and end all), I think the Lib Dems policy might be more attractive. It kind of seems like, in terms of Brexit, Tories, Lib Dems, and Labour are now the "yes", "no", and "maybe" parties, respectively. I think people have polarised to the point where the latter is becoming less and less attractive.

But then, that could prove to be bollocks, who knows? Interesting times.

Author:  Nik [ Wed Sep 18, 2019 9:00 ]
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Kern wrote:
MaliA wrote:
https://twitter.com/DPhinnemore/status/1174212230428221441

Oh

Quote:
Another official describes the prime minister gradually “slumping” in his chair as the reality of the UK’s negotiating position and the limited time left to strike an agreement dawned on him. “He wasn’t used to hearing it”, added the official.


Oh


I'm starting to think that perhaps comedy panel shows are not the best recruiting grounds for high political office.

As an adopted Londoner, I feel bad that we didn't do enough to warn the rest of the country.

Author:  Nik [ Wed Sep 18, 2019 9:02 ]
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Heh, just had a flashback to Ben Elton doing a routine about being embarrassed by (then PM) John Major, when he was abroad. Little did we know...

Author:  DavPaz [ Wed Sep 18, 2019 9:03 ]
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What kind of vote swing would be needed to land the Lib Dems in power? Assuming a coalition with the Libs as main party. It would have to be catastrophic for Labour.

Author:  Kern [ Wed Sep 18, 2019 9:08 ]
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Nik wrote:
markg wrote:
I'd say that at this point the Lib Dem plan of clicking their heels and saying there's no place like home is the more naive one.

Maybe... In terms of purely winning votes (which obviously isn't the be all and end all), I think the Lib Dems policy might be more attractive. It kind of seems like, in terms of Brexit, Tories, Lib Dems, and Labour are now the "yes", "no", and "maybe" parties, respectively. I think people have polarised to the point where the latter is becoming less and less attractive.

But then, that could prove to be bollocks, who knows? Interesting times.


It makes the Lib Dems look distinctive. I'm just concerned that it might be off-putting in Tory/LibDem marginals.

Author:  Curiosity [ Wed Sep 18, 2019 9:12 ]
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Kern wrote:
Nik wrote:
markg wrote:
I'd say that at this point the Lib Dem plan of clicking their heels and saying there's no place like home is the more naive one.

Maybe... In terms of purely winning votes (which obviously isn't the be all and end all), I think the Lib Dems policy might be more attractive. It kind of seems like, in terms of Brexit, Tories, Lib Dems, and Labour are now the "yes", "no", and "maybe" parties, respectively. I think people have polarised to the point where the latter is becoming less and less attractive.

But then, that could prove to be bollocks, who knows? Interesting times.


It makes the Lib Dems look distinctive. I'm just concerned that it might be off-putting in Tory/LibDem marginals.


Depends on what kind of marginal. A lot of those are (I think, but could be wrong) richer areas who wouldn’t vote Labour, which are more drawn to Revoke than No Deal (and would settle on May’s deal as a shitty compromise to get it over with).

So in those marginals (I’m basically thinking of places like Richmond) there’s a chance that the LDs could pick up seats.

My seat is Labour/Tory and can’t see it changing sufficiently from that to make LD a good vote.

Author:  myp [ Wed Sep 18, 2019 10:08 ]
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Fucking huge

Author:  Cras [ Wed Sep 18, 2019 10:41 ]
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Kern wrote:
MaliA wrote:
https://twitter.com/DPhinnemore/status/1174212230428221441

Oh

Quote:
Another official describes the prime minister gradually “slumping” in his chair as the reality of the UK’s negotiating position and the limited time left to strike an agreement dawned on him. “He wasn’t used to hearing it”, added the official.


Oh


I'm starting to think that perhaps comedy panel shows are not the best recruiting grounds for high political office.


If the PM of Luxembourg had pulled out a tub of lard and stuck it on Boris' empty podium, we would have come full circle and then Sam could leap again.

Author:  Kern [ Wed Sep 18, 2019 10:45 ]
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Cras wrote:
If the PM of Luxembourg had pulled out a tub of lard and stuck it on Boris' empty podium, we would have come full circle and then Sam could leap again.


:DD

Author:  Nik [ Wed Sep 18, 2019 11:17 ]
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Dunt, as ever, makes sensible points about Corbyn’s position: http://www.politics.co.uk/blogs/2019/09 ... ant-they-s

Author:  markg [ Fri Sep 20, 2019 10:39 ]
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I'd actually forgotten all about this cunt until I saw this in my news feed:

https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/b ... her-brexit

Author:  Nik [ Fri Sep 27, 2019 13:54 ]
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This whole twitter thread is terrifying:
https://twitter.com/Jim_Cornelius/statu ... 2295825410




For the first time ever, I'm wondering if I want to stay living in this country. I want to bring my (mixed race) little girl up somewhere she'll be safe, and I'm not sure that's here anymore. Although I want article 50 revoked, I can't see that (or any other political outcome) repairing the damage done to this society by having that fucking referendum. Thanks for that, Cameron.

Author:  Squirt [ Thu Oct 03, 2019 15:25 ]
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https://twitter.com/eucopresident/statu ... 7466830848




I think "open but still unconvinced" is diplomatic speak for "not a fucking chance, matey'

Author:  zaphod79 [ Fri Oct 04, 2019 13:20 ]
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Definitely not seeking an extension
We *will* leave and there will be no extension
Dead in a ditch

.....


https://twitter.com/SkyNewsBreak/status ... 0170078208



Author:  Grim... [ Sun Oct 06, 2019 17:04 ]
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Overheard in the charity shop:
"I don't think Boris has the time to get the deal we want."
"If only he was in power three years ago."
"Ooh, yes!"

Author:  Kern [ Mon Oct 07, 2019 10:12 ]
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New tweet from my MP:
https://twitter.com/VictoriaPrentis/sta ... 1401476097




I voted remain, I believe in democracy, and I'm looking forward to voting against you at the earliest opportunity.

Author:  Kern [ Wed Oct 09, 2019 12:59 ]
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Apparently, it's all Dr Beeching's fault. Seriously, what a shit.

Author:  Warhead [ Wed Oct 09, 2019 13:14 ]
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Yeah, but never mind Brexit, that bastard ruined my favourite hobby.

Author:  MaliA [ Thu Oct 17, 2019 10:44 ]
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White smoke?

Author:  Kern [ Thu Oct 17, 2019 11:22 ]
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It's the orange smoke you need to look for.

No idea how the next few days will play out (will Myp end up playing politicians rather than rugby players at Cottage?). I'm not convinced that overhauling a country's economic structure should be done by a short debate on a Saturday, however.

At least Corbyn is now openly talking about a confirmatory vote. When sinners repent etc... :)

Author:  Kern [ Thu Oct 17, 2019 13:55 ]
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At least the Commons have amended the government's business motion so the debate on Saturday can be amended and won't just take 90 minutes.

Still not enough time to review the documents and the implications etc, but what's the point in writing to my MP when she's going to wander merrily through the Aye lobby anyway?

Author:  Nik [ Thu Oct 17, 2019 14:30 ]
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Juncker's ruled out any more extensions. Unless the bill passes on Saturday with an amendment for another referendum (presumably also forcing Johnson to ask for an extension to hold said referendum), AND this persuades Juncker to change his mind and grant an extension after all, I reckon we're fucked.

Not sure why so many journalists asked Juncker repeatedly if he'd rule out an extension, but no one seemed to ask if he'd change his mind if Westminster voted for a referendum, i.e. would he allow an extension in order to hold it?

Author:  Curiosity [ Thu Oct 17, 2019 16:48 ]
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Juncker doesn’t get to decide about delays; he just wants it to be over.

Author:  Nik [ Thu Oct 17, 2019 17:14 ]
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Good point.

Author:  MaliA [ Thu Oct 17, 2019 17:20 ]
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Saturday at the cottage has lost its lustre

Author:  Kern [ Thu Oct 17, 2019 17:26 ]
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MaliA wrote:
Saturday at the cottage has lost its lustre


I can't make the March but will show solidarity by wearing a witty T-Shirt whilst holding a short fringe event in the Smaller Cottage.

Author:  Nik [ Thu Oct 17, 2019 17:35 ]
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Kern wrote:
MaliA wrote:
Saturday at the cottage has lost its lustre


I can't make the March but will show solidarity by wearing a witty T-Shirt whilst holding a short fringe event in the Smaller Cottage.

I love a good short fringe event.
Image

Author:  MaliA [ Thu Oct 17, 2019 18:51 ]
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I don't trust Labour to do the right thing.

Author:  Kern [ Fri Oct 18, 2019 7:36 ]
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MaliA wrote:
I don't trust Labour to do the right thing.


Me neither. It only takes a few Labour MPs to go into the Aye lobby and everything's fucked. I don't get why they would want to hand Mr Johnson such a victory. Those with a strong "Leave" identity won't be voting for them anyway, whilst those with a stronger arty alliance would be aghast at anything to help the Tories.

I'm trying to find a form of words to send to my MP along the lines of "before you vote, have you read any impact assessments or studies of this" but I can't find a way that doesn't sound patronising or just rude, and she's going to wander through the government lobby anyway. Pretty sure that even if the agreement contained a clause packing her off to Siberia she would still vote for it (and that assumes she'd actually be bothered to read it).

Not good. Might pack some harder drinks for Cottage, just in case, unless we institute a no-Brexit gag rule.

Author:  Kern [ Fri Oct 18, 2019 7:38 ]
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Kern wrote:
Effective immediately: until 30 March 2019 anyone trying to be witty or satirical by playing or alluding to the UK number 1 from 6-20 December 1986 will face summary punishment of a date with Andrea Leadsom.


Might be a good time to reinstate this rule, changing the date to 1 November 2019.

Author:  Kern [ Fri Oct 18, 2019 8:43 ]
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Kern wrote:
I'm trying to find a form of words to send to my MP along the lines of "before you vote, have you read any impact assessments or studies of this" but I can't find a way that doesn't sound patronising or just rude, and she's going to wander through the government lobby anyway. Pretty sure that even if the agreement contained a clause packing her off to Siberia she would still vote for it (and that assumes she'd actually be bothered to read it).


I can't be arsed. It'll only go into her "people who won't ever vote for me anyway" pile and thence to the recycling centre.

Author:  Kern [ Fri Oct 18, 2019 9:26 ]
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Fuck it, if Mr Rees-Mogg can be a smug, patronising git, so can I:

Quote:
Dear MP,

Regardless of the merits or otherwise of the Brexit agreement reached on Thursday, I do not believe that one day of debate a couple of days afterwards is sufficient time for proper analysis and discussion of such a major upheaval to our economic and social relations. There is no need for such a rush other than to claim a short-lasting "win" in the media. Rushed policy-making seldom produces good long-term results. I would like to know if you feel the Parliamentary time set aside for this is adequate given the seriousness of the decision.

I would also be grateful for copies of (or links to) any impact assessments or other studies you have read on the likely effects of the new agreement on the economy as a whole and on individual sectors. These could either be those produced by the government or written by third parties. I think it is important that any commentary or debate on the agreement should be based on the actual text and its implications rather than on the politics and drama of it all

Hugs and cuddles,

K.

Author:  MaliA [ Fri Oct 18, 2019 9:54 ]
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Nicely done.

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