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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
PostPosted: Fri Jun 07, 2019 13:40 
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He backtracked from that position very quickly afterwards:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-48525211

Not that anything he does or says is any guarantee of the future position of the US. There's shedloads of money to be made from fucking the NHS up so they'll almost certainly try; it largely then depends on whether those in power in the UK let them. In a sane world they'd get told to GTFF but Torys are almost certainly gonna Tory. I predict they'll crack it open just far enough to let the fuckers slither inside while appearing to have mostly pushed back. Ten year from now they'll have gradually hollowed the entire thing out, it'll be NHS in name only and everyone's quality of life will take a massive kick in the balls.


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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
PostPosted: Fri Jun 07, 2019 14:21 
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I have a theory about what may have happened here.

"At a press conference in London on Tuesday, Mr Trump was asked whether he believed the NHS should be part of a trade deal between the UK and US after Brexit.".

We're all assuming that he knew what the NHS was at that point, but there's a better than even chance that he didn't, and just shot his mouth off in his usual way.

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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
PostPosted: Fri Jun 07, 2019 14:30 
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That theory could be tested quite easily by a journalist.

"Sure OMD and ELO should be on the table, I don't see why they wouldn't be..."


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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
PostPosted: Fri Jun 07, 2019 14:41 
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Warhead wrote:
I have a theory about what may have happened here.

"At a press conference in London on Tuesday, Mr Trump was asked whether he believed the NHS should be part of a trade deal between the UK and US after Brexit.".

We're all assuming that he knew what the NHS was at that point, but there's a better than even chance that he didn't, and just shot his mouth off in his usual way.


That's certainly possible. Or he was genuinely being bullish about it without having the slightest idea of the uproar it would cause because, again, ignorance.


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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
PostPosted: Tue Jun 11, 2019 0:47 
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That's certainly possible. Or he was genuinely being bullish about it without having the slightest idea of the uproar it would cause because, again, ignorance.


Could be ignorance, but also might be because he genuinely doesn't give a fuck about this little island that looks suddenly vulnerable and there is PROFIT to be made by trampling all over little people.

I'm not sure how much of the uproar from all the other things (as hateful as these things seem to us) has really impacted on him. It's hard not to feel incredibly disaffected by all of this.

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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
PostPosted: Wed Jun 12, 2019 18:09 
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Fuck: MPs reject Labour plan for no-deal vote https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-48613921

Rory Stewart’s a devious git.
https://twitter.com/rorystewartuk/statu ... 4773724160



But he voted against the motion to try to prevent no-deal today. Because if that got through, he’d lose his USP as a leadership candidate?


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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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Fuck: MPs reject Labour plan for no-deal vote https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-48613921

Rory Stewart’s a devious git.
https://twitter.com/rorystewartuk/statu ... 4773724160



But he voted against the motion to try to prevent no-deal today. Because if that got through, he’d lose his USP as a leadership candidate?

Because no tory member will be seen dead voting for a leadership candidate who’s dared to vote on a motion proposed by Corbyn.


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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
PostPosted: Wed Jun 12, 2019 18:23 
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Indeed. I keep wishing people would do the right thing, instead of what’s best for their parliamentary career or party. I am a naive fool, I know.


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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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So under a third of the Conservative and Unionist Party are actually conservative or Unionist? Blimey.

The Jeremy Corbyn question raises an interesting scenario: Mr Johnson fails to get the Withdrawal Agreement through and the opposition call a vote of no-confidence. Would he push for revoke/referedum to avoid an election?

The problem with Mr Johnson being slippery and untrustworthy is it's hard to predict how he would behave, but I think his ego would stop him being forced out of Downing Street as an election loser.


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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
PostPosted: Tue Jun 18, 2019 9:41 
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So under a third of the Conservative and Unionist Party are actually conservative or Unionist? Blimey.


And yes, you can match this with a "how much manual labour do Labour people do?" but I feel Unionism at least is a clear definable policy.


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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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Yeah, its called, "Tory scum will be the first against the wall, come the revolution.'

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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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Just realised it's three years since I woke up and spent a morning extremely distressed and distraught. I'd booked a holiday a while before and had to be talked onto the train by my parents over the phone due to the state I was in. First time a political event has genuinely fucked me up. I remember having a very welcome set of beers in Paris that evening once I'd arrived and calmed down.

I still despair about the state of politics and society, and the utter failure of most MPs to really grapple with the issues. I've learnt far much more about the EU, trade rules, trade policy, Ireland, the constitution and parliamentary procedure in the past 36 months than I ever really knew about in the past, and it's stunning that senior politicians either refuse to discuss the grave problems with any form of Brexit or clearly don't even know about them.

On the plus side it's also provided the riveting two volumes of first-draft history by Tim Shipman (recommended!), the brilliance of the 'Remainiacs' show, and created a proper European movement in this country for the first time.

The fact that we are, for now, still in the EU is a sign of hope. I just fear it's going to get darker before we finally consign all this to the past.


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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
PostPosted: Tue Jun 25, 2019 8:41 
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Your eyes aren't decieving you, Mr Corbyn did say this in the Commons yesterday:

Jeremy Corbyn wrote:
Will the Prime Minister tell us whether she believes that no deal should be on the table as a viable option? What would be worse: crashing out with no deal in October, or putting this issue back to the people for a final say?


Now the words have passed his lips once, perhaps he might find he has a taste for them and will, perhaps, start saying it again?


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