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Author: | Dr Zoidberg [ Tue Mar 12, 2019 20:23 ] |
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242, Yes Lots more, No |
Author: | Kern [ Tue Mar 12, 2019 20:28 ] |
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Hey, she only lost by 150. Things are looking up for her. |
Author: | Kern [ Tue Mar 12, 2019 20:29 ] |
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Giphy "schadenfreude": https://media3.giphy.com/media/6EmLdlvKWItVhv2nSG/giphy-loop.mp4 |
Author: | Malc [ Tue Mar 12, 2019 22:41 ] |
Post subject: | Re: Taking the Brexit |
Kern wrote: Hey, she only lost by 150. Things are looking up for her. Some Dutch MEP type said if she manages to hold another couple of votes she might actually win one, if they keep on progressing like this |
Author: | Mimi [ Wed Mar 13, 2019 0:27 ] |
Post subject: | Re: Taking the Brexit |
What a poo show. Honestly, it’d be funny if it weren’t so soul crushingly depressing. Maybe we can stretch it out until all the politicians die of natural causes, revoke article 50 and pretend it never happens. At what point does the rest of Europe switch from hating us to just pitying us? Will they perhaps give us some pity points at Eurovision? |
Author: | DavPaz [ Wed Mar 13, 2019 7:04 ] |
Post subject: | Re: Taking the Brexit |
Nil point! |
Author: | markg [ Wed Mar 13, 2019 7:47 ] |
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Mimi wrote: At what point does the rest of Europe switch from hating us to just pitying us? Will they perhaps give us some pity points at Eurovision? I don't think that the rest of the EU hate us, at least not the sensible ones. They're nearly all fighting to keep their own right wing fuckheads in check so they understand the pickle that the rest of us find ourselves in. |
Author: | Kern [ Wed Mar 13, 2019 10:13 ] |
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Once I finished laughing last night, a worrying thought crossed my mind. If we can't find an acceptable arrangement with our partners for the past 40 years, how are we going to strike "exciting" deals with other major powers? Leonard diCaprio had more strength and a better sense of purpose when he was being nozzled by that bear in the 'Revanant'. |
Author: | Kern [ Wed Mar 13, 2019 10:17 ] |
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Mimi wrote: Maybe we can stretch it out until all the politicians die of natural causes, revoke article 50 and pretend it never happens. We just have to wait for nature to take its course on the leave voters. I've read figures suggesting that the deomgraphic crossover creating an in-built remain advantage is due to happen in 2021. |
Author: | Kern [ Wed Mar 13, 2019 10:19 ] |
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Kern wrote: Once I finished laughing last night I've just remembered how she called an election and lost her majority and it's still hilariously funny. Giphy "whilst rome burns": https://media3.giphy.com/media/3Q8IdWumS3HCo/giphy-loop.mp4 |
Author: | markg [ Wed Mar 13, 2019 10:21 ] |
Post subject: | Re: Taking the Brexit |
It's amazing that she's still there. None of the other cunts even want her job do they? |
Author: | Kern [ Wed Mar 13, 2019 10:24 ] |
Post subject: | Re: Taking the Brexit |
Remember how we all thought it was a stroke of genius for her to place Messers Johnson and Davis in key roles so they'd have to own Brexit? Those were the days. |
Author: | Zardoz [ Wed Mar 13, 2019 10:25 ] |
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Nope. They want her right where she is to take all the fallout from the shit-show and be there to crawl into the void once it's over. |
Author: | Hearthly [ Wed Mar 13, 2019 12:07 ] |
Post subject: | Re: Taking the Brexit |
If one good thing has come of Brexit it's that the most well known suicidal slaughterhouse of World of Warcraft has crossed over into the Brexit lexicon. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leeroy_Jenkins Quote: This plan is intended to help Leeroy obtain a piece of armor from the boss monsters, but is ruined when Leeroy himself returns and, ignorant of the strategy, immediately rushes headlong into battle shouting his own name in a stylized battle cry. His companions rush to help, but Leeroy's actions ruin the detailed plan and all the members of the group are killed. (Notably, the plan was already deeply flawed even before Leeroy ruined it, containing several critical misunderstandings of the then-current game mechanics.) Attachment: jenkers.PNG https://twitter.com/IanDunt/status/1105786309128409089
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Author: | Kern [ Wed Mar 13, 2019 16:06 ] |
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Mariana Hyde is on top form today. No quotes because almost every paragraph is quote-worthy. |
Author: | Kern [ Wed Mar 13, 2019 16:09 ] |
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Actually, here's one sentence, but spoilered because it's just too good: ZOMG Spoiler! Click here to view! |
Author: | MaliA [ Wed Mar 13, 2019 18:21 ] |
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I am despondent today over the whole Brexit thing. Despondent as these people are adults, making big decisions based on bollocks they tell each other until it begins to be believed and then the while thing is just a waste of time and money. Bunch of deluded, thick twats, being pleased with themselves for saying the word "turd" and refusing to say if the understand and what a no deal may bring. |
Author: | Kern [ Wed Mar 13, 2019 19:44 ] |
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MaliA wrote: I am despondent today over the whole Brexit thing. Despondent as these people are adults, making big decisions based on bollocks they tell each other until it begins to be believed and then the while thing is just a waste of time and money. Bunch of deluded, thick twats, being pleased with themselves for saying the word "turd" and refusing to say if the understand and what a no deal may bring. I feel ya, bro. I've tried to be charitable throughout all of this, but it's not got anywhere. I want to be converted, I want to see the evidence and analyses that will change my mind. Nothing has been forthcoming. All I ever hear is either bland demands for faith or a demand to 'respect' an interpretion of a slim margin in favour of an open question three years ago. I've more or less given up on my MP, although I sometimes think about phoning her office and demanding an audience at a time of my convienance (I can't make her surgeries due to the annoying work thing). Heck, all I've ever tried to grasp is that if she can change her mind, then so should I, yet nothing in our correspondence suggest anything other than a fear of an awkward port and policy gathering at the next Association social. Yet I've been brought up to respect those who take unpopular stands, so her cowardice (for that's all I can see it as), bewilders me. What the hell is the point in being an MP if you're not prepared to put your neck on the line to save the country from deliberate self-harm? But deeper than that, I'm reaching the point where I don't care about the UK. My support for keeping Scotland in the Union in 2014 was partly practical but also a strange emotional bond that I never really felt I had. Now, frankly, I don't care. I might shed a brief tear if the Scots go there own way, but I'd fully understand if they go. I no longer feel I have any understanding of the people of these Isles, nor any particular desire to work to make things better for everyone. Ranting again, but feeling strangely cleansed... |
Author: | Kern [ Wed Mar 13, 2019 19:48 ] |
Post subject: | Re: Taking the Brexit |
And relax... Giphy "bears": https://media3.giphy.com/media/3ohhwESi9BLJqW7J1C/giphy-loop.mp4 |
Author: | myp [ Wed Mar 13, 2019 19:49 ] |
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It’s been interesting seeing your viewpoint on this change, Kern. You and I definitely seem to have more in common these days, politically speaking. |
Author: | Kern [ Wed Mar 13, 2019 20:01 ] |
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Lonewolves wrote: It’s been interesting seeing your viewpoint on this change, Kern. You and I definitely seem to have more in common these days, politically speaking. Had I known how things would go, I don't think I'd have been as blasé or delibarately trolling on this. But hey, I've found a resolution to the Cecil Rhodes thing. We just demolish Oriel. |
Author: | DavPaz [ Wed Mar 13, 2019 20:03 ] |
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Fucking brexiteers piloting a doomed plane towards the mountains because they've heard that they can eat the fucking passengers to survive. |
Author: | DBSnappa [ Wed Mar 13, 2019 20:05 ] |
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MaliA wrote: I am despondent today over the whole Brexit thing. Despondent as these people are adults, making big decisions based on bollocks they tell each other until it begins to be believed and then the while thing is just a waste of time and money. Bunch of deluded, thick twats, being pleased with themselves for saying the word "turd" and refusing to say if the understand and what a no deal may bring. With you on this. The absolute state of the fucking lot of them. |
Author: | DBSnappa [ Wed Mar 13, 2019 20:05 ] |
Post subject: | Re: Taking the Brexit |
I’m doing the march on 23rd. Anybody from here going? |
Author: | myp [ Wed Mar 13, 2019 20:07 ] |
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Kern wrote: Lonewolves wrote: It’s been interesting seeing your viewpoint on this change, Kern. You and I definitely seem to have more in common these days, politically speaking. Had I known how things would go, I don't think I'd have been as blasé or delibarately trolling on this. But hey, I've found a resolution to the Cecil Rhodes thing. We just demolish Oriel. Right on, comrade! |
Author: | Doctor Glyndwr [ Wed Mar 13, 2019 20:12 ] |
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DBSnappa wrote: I’m doing the march on 23rd. Anybody from here going? Considering it. Hard to see it changing anything, is the reason to perhaps not. But maybe that’s defeatism. |
Author: | DavPaz [ Wed Mar 13, 2019 20:20 ] |
Post subject: | Re: Taking the Brexit |
Have they just ruled out No Deal for good with amendment, or is there another vote? |
Author: | Kern [ Wed Mar 13, 2019 20:26 ] |
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DavPaz wrote: Have they just ruled out No Deal for good with amendment, or is there another vote? The House has voted against it, but it hasn't changed the law. Any force it has is political, not legal. |
Author: | Dr Zoidberg [ Wed Mar 13, 2019 20:27 ] |
Post subject: | Re: Taking the Brexit |
No, it’s ruled out No Deal in a couple of weeks. Assuming we extend A50 then it’s back on the table again. |
Author: | Kern [ Wed Mar 13, 2019 20:28 ] |
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DBSnappa wrote: I’m doing the march on 23rd. Anybody from here going? Will be there in spirit. Sadly away that weekend. Kern wrote: Still, in years to come when my granddaughter sits on my knee and my grandson plays with his toy bureaucrats and asks what I did, I'll at the very least be able to say that I subscribed to some podcasts and stuck a sticker on my car.
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Author: | Kern [ Wed Mar 13, 2019 20:31 ] |
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Dr Zoidberg wrote: No, it’s ruled out No Deal in a couple of weeks. Assuming we extend A50 then it’s back on the table again. Excpet without an extension we're still falling out at 23:00 on 29th March. |
Author: | Cras [ Wed Mar 13, 2019 20:32 ] |
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Dr Zoidberg wrote: No, it’s ruled out No Deal in a couple of weeks. Assuming we extend A50 then it’s back on the table again. I don't believe that's the case based on the text of the wording. I think it says that the government may not work to leave without a withdrawal agreement in place. Not dated. |
Author: | Cras [ Wed Mar 13, 2019 20:33 ] |
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Kern wrote: Dr Zoidberg wrote: No, it’s ruled out No Deal in a couple of weeks. Assuming we extend A50 then it’s back on the table again. Excpet without an extension we're still falling out at 23:00 on 29th March. Correct. But the amendment does mean that the Government should make every effort to avoid that outcome. Note should. May's respect for parliament is basically nonexistent. |
Author: | myp [ Wed Mar 13, 2019 20:37 ] |
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Kern wrote: DavPaz wrote: Have they just ruled out No Deal for good with amendment, or is there another vote? The House has voted against it, but it hasn't changed the law. Any force it has is political, not legal. Like the referendum result itself then. |
Author: | Cras [ Wed Mar 13, 2019 20:43 ] |
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The government is now whipping against its own motion because of the Spelman/Cooper amendment. This is a ridiculous clusterfuck. |
Author: | Kern [ Wed Mar 13, 2019 20:46 ] |
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Cras wrote: The government is now whipping against its own motion because of the Spelman/Cooper amendment. This is a ridiculous clusterfuck. ?! |
Author: | Cras [ Wed Mar 13, 2019 20:48 ] |
Post subject: | Re: Taking the Brexit |
Three line whip. May is voting against the motion. May is effectively voting for no deal. Cabinet members rebelling against the whip. This is astonishing. |
Author: | Cras [ Wed Mar 13, 2019 20:52 ] |
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Motion passes. Good fucking lord. |
Author: | MaliA [ Wed Mar 13, 2019 21:26 ] |
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My mood has lifted somewhat. |
Author: | markg [ Wed Mar 13, 2019 21:53 ] |
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It just never ends. I'm not sure it ever will. |
Author: | markg [ Wed Mar 13, 2019 22:21 ] |
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This. https://www.project-syndicate.org/comme ... es-2019-03 |
Author: | Four_Candles [ Wed Mar 13, 2019 22:28 ] |
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Dr Zoidberg wrote: No, it’s ruled out No Deal in a couple of weeks. Assuming we extend A50 then it’s back on the table again. Yes, but because of the Spelman amendment also being passed that means No Deal is politically (but not legally) ruled out under any scenario. So May, being the deceptive runt that she is, could choose to ignore it. But would she dare? Given past performance I'd say it's possible. |
Author: | Trooper [ Wed Mar 13, 2019 22:30 ] |
Post subject: | Re: Taking the Brexit |
I don't consider myself a particularly stupid man, but I have fuck all idea what is going on, and what any of these votes actually means when it comes to leaving the EU. |
Author: | myp [ Wed Mar 13, 2019 22:31 ] |
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It’s ok, we consider you a stupid man so it makes sense |
Author: | Cras [ Thu Mar 14, 2019 0:28 ] |
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Trooper wrote: I don't consider myself a particularly stupid man, but I have fuck all idea what is going on, and what any of these votes actually means when it comes to leaving the EU. The government chief whip just failed to three line whip himself. Nobody has any fucking idea what is going on. |
Author: | Bamba [ Thu Mar 14, 2019 0:31 ] |
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Cras wrote: Trooper wrote: I don't consider myself a particularly stupid man, but I have fuck all idea what is going on, and what any of these votes actually means when it comes to leaving the EU. The government chief whip just failed to three line whip himself. I mean, that would surely generally require a third party anyway? This is a failure of the whip-whipper! |
Author: | myp [ Thu Mar 14, 2019 1:00 ] |
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Who whips the whipmen |
Author: | Nik [ Thu Mar 14, 2019 1:53 ] |
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DBSnappa wrote: I’m doing the march on 23rd. Anybody from here going? Yes. I made a banner (NSFW): ZOMG Spoiler! Click here to view! |
Author: | zaphod79 [ Thu Mar 14, 2019 11:40 ] |
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https://politics.co.uk/blogs/2019/03/13 ... -of-parlia |
Author: | myp [ Thu Mar 14, 2019 11:49 ] |
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Quote: One final swing of the dice
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