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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
PostPosted: Tue Mar 12, 2019 20:23 
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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
PostPosted: Tue Mar 12, 2019 20:28 
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Hey, she only lost by 150. Things are looking up for her.


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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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Hey, she only lost by 150. Things are looking up for her.

Some Dutch MEP type said if she manages to hold another couple of votes she might actually win one, if they keep on progressing like this

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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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What a poo show. Honestly, it’d be funny if it weren’t so soul crushingly depressing. Maybe we can stretch it out until all the politicians die of natural causes, revoke article 50 and pretend it never happens.

At what point does the rest of Europe switch from hating us to just pitying us? Will they perhaps give us some pity points at Eurovision?

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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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Mimi wrote:
At what point does the rest of Europe switch from hating us to just pitying us? Will they perhaps give us some pity points at Eurovision?

I don't think that the rest of the EU hate us, at least not the sensible ones. They're nearly all fighting to keep their own right wing fuckheads in check so they understand the pickle that the rest of us find ourselves in.


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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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Once I finished laughing last night, a worrying thought crossed my mind. If we can't find an acceptable arrangement with our partners for the past 40 years, how are we going to strike "exciting" deals with other major powers? Leonard diCaprio had more strength and a better sense of purpose when he was being nozzled by that bear in the 'Revanant'.


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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
PostPosted: Wed Mar 13, 2019 10:17 
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Mimi wrote:
Maybe we can stretch it out until all the politicians die of natural causes, revoke article 50 and pretend it never happens.


We just have to wait for nature to take its course on the leave voters. I've read figures suggesting that the deomgraphic crossover creating an in-built remain advantage is due to happen in 2021.


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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
PostPosted: Wed Mar 13, 2019 10:19 
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Once I finished laughing last night


I've just remembered how she called an election and lost her majority and it's still hilariously funny.

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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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It's amazing that she's still there. None of the other cunts even want her job do they?


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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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Remember how we all thought it was a stroke of genius for her to place Messers Johnson and Davis in key roles so they'd have to own Brexit? Those were the days.


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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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Nope. They want her right where she is to take all the fallout from the shit-show and be there to crawl into the void once it's over.

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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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If one good thing has come of Brexit it's that the most well known suicidal slaughterhouse of World of Warcraft has crossed over into the Brexit lexicon.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leeroy_Jenkins

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This plan is intended to help Leeroy obtain a piece of armor from the boss monsters, but is ruined when Leeroy himself returns and, ignorant of the strategy, immediately rushes headlong into battle shouting his own name in a stylized battle cry. His companions rush to help, but Leeroy's actions ruin the detailed plan and all the members of the group are killed. (Notably, the plan was already deeply flawed even before Leeroy ruined it, containing several critical misunderstandings of the then-current game mechanics.)


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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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Mariana Hyde is on top form today.

No quotes because almost every paragraph is quote-worthy.


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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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Actually, here's one sentence, but spoilered because it's just too good:

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The story of Brexit since the referendum has in large part been the story of politicians finding out in real time what the thing they had already done actually meant, then deferring the admission or even acceptance of it.


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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
PostPosted: Wed Mar 13, 2019 18:21 
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I am despondent today over the whole Brexit thing. Despondent as these people are adults, making big decisions based on bollocks they tell each other until it begins to be believed and then the while thing is just a waste of time and money. Bunch of deluded, thick twats, being pleased with themselves for saying the word "turd" and refusing to say if the understand and what a no deal may bring.

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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
PostPosted: Wed Mar 13, 2019 19:44 
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MaliA wrote:
I am despondent today over the whole Brexit thing. Despondent as these people are adults, making big decisions based on bollocks they tell each other until it begins to be believed and then the while thing is just a waste of time and money. Bunch of deluded, thick twats, being pleased with themselves for saying the word "turd" and refusing to say if the understand and what a no deal may bring.


I feel ya, bro.

I've tried to be charitable throughout all of this, but it's not got anywhere. I want to be converted, I want to see the evidence and analyses that will change my mind. Nothing has been forthcoming. All I ever hear is either bland demands for faith or a demand to 'respect' an interpretion of a slim margin in favour of an open question three years ago.

I've more or less given up on my MP, although I sometimes think about phoning her office and demanding an audience at a time of my convienance (I can't make her surgeries due to the annoying work thing). Heck, all I've ever tried to grasp is that if she can change her mind, then so should I, yet nothing in our correspondence suggest anything other than a fear of an awkward port and policy gathering at the next Association social. Yet I've been brought up to respect those who take unpopular stands, so her cowardice (for that's all I can see it as), bewilders me. What the hell is the point in being an MP if you're not prepared to put your neck on the line to save the country from deliberate self-harm?

But deeper than that, I'm reaching the point where I don't care about the UK. My support for keeping Scotland in the Union in 2014 was partly practical but also a strange emotional bond that I never really felt I had. Now, frankly, I don't care. I might shed a brief tear if the Scots go there own way, but I'd fully understand if they go. I no longer feel I have any understanding of the people of these Isles, nor any particular desire to work to make things better for everyone.

Ranting again, but feeling strangely cleansed...


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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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And relax...

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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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It’s been interesting seeing your viewpoint on this change, Kern. You and I definitely seem to have more in common these days, politically speaking.

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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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It’s been interesting seeing your viewpoint on this change, Kern. You and I definitely seem to have more in common these days, politically speaking.


:luv:

Had I known how things would go, I don't think I'd have been as blasé or delibarately trolling on this.

But hey, I've found a resolution to the Cecil Rhodes thing. We just demolish Oriel.


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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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Fucking brexiteers piloting a doomed plane towards the mountains because they've heard that they can eat the fucking passengers to survive.


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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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MaliA wrote:
I am despondent today over the whole Brexit thing. Despondent as these people are adults, making big decisions based on bollocks they tell each other until it begins to be believed and then the while thing is just a waste of time and money. Bunch of deluded, thick twats, being pleased with themselves for saying the word "turd" and refusing to say if the understand and what a no deal may bring.


With you on this. The absolute state of the fucking lot of them.

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I’m doing the march on 23rd. Anybody from here going?

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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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Kern wrote:
Lonewolves wrote:
It’s been interesting seeing your viewpoint on this change, Kern. You and I definitely seem to have more in common these days, politically speaking.


:luv:

Had I known how things would go, I don't think I'd have been as blasé or delibarately trolling on this.

But hey, I've found a resolution to the Cecil Rhodes thing. We just demolish Oriel.

Right on, comrade!

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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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I’m doing the march on 23rd. Anybody from here going?

Considering it. Hard to see it changing anything, is the reason to perhaps not. But maybe that’s defeatism.


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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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Have they just ruled out No Deal for good with amendment, or is there another vote?


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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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Have they just ruled out No Deal for good with amendment, or is there another vote?


The House has voted against it, but it hasn't changed the law. Any force it has is political, not legal.


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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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No, it’s ruled out No Deal in a couple of weeks.
Assuming we extend A50 then it’s back on the table again.


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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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I’m doing the march on 23rd. Anybody from here going?


Will be there in spirit. Sadly away that weekend.

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Still, in years to come when my granddaughter sits on my knee and my grandson plays with his toy bureaucrats and asks what I did, I'll at the very least be able to say that I subscribed to some podcasts and stuck a sticker on my car.


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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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No, it’s ruled out No Deal in a couple of weeks.
Assuming we extend A50 then it’s back on the table again.


Excpet without an extension we're still falling out at 23:00 on 29th March.


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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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No, it’s ruled out No Deal in a couple of weeks.
Assuming we extend A50 then it’s back on the table again.


I don't believe that's the case based on the text of the wording. I think it says that the government may not work to leave without a withdrawal agreement in place. Not dated.

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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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No, it’s ruled out No Deal in a couple of weeks.
Assuming we extend A50 then it’s back on the table again.


Excpet without an extension we're still falling out at 23:00 on 29th March.


Correct. But the amendment does mean that the Government should make every effort to avoid that outcome. Note should. May's respect for parliament is basically nonexistent.

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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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Kern wrote:
DavPaz wrote:
Have they just ruled out No Deal for good with amendment, or is there another vote?


The House has voted against it, but it hasn't changed the law. Any force it has is political, not legal.

Like the referendum result itself then.

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The government is now whipping against its own motion because of the Spelman/Cooper amendment. This is a ridiculous clusterfuck.

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The government is now whipping against its own motion because of the Spelman/Cooper amendment. This is a ridiculous clusterfuck.


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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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Three line whip. May is voting against the motion. May is effectively voting for no deal. Cabinet members rebelling against the whip. This is astonishing.

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Motion passes. Good fucking lord.

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My mood has lifted somewhat.

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It just never ends. I'm not sure it ever will.


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This.

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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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Dr Zoidberg wrote:
No, it’s ruled out No Deal in a couple of weeks.
Assuming we extend A50 then it’s back on the table again.


Yes, but because of the Spelman amendment also being passed that means No Deal is politically (but not legally) ruled out under any scenario.

So May, being the deceptive runt that she is, could choose to ignore it. But would she dare? Given past performance I'd say it's possible.


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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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I don't consider myself a particularly stupid man, but I have fuck all idea what is going on, and what any of these votes actually means when it comes to leaving the EU.


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It’s ok, we consider you a stupid man so it makes sense

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I don't consider myself a particularly stupid man, but I have fuck all idea what is going on, and what any of these votes actually means when it comes to leaving the EU.


The government chief whip just failed to three line whip himself.

Nobody has any fucking idea what is going on.

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Trooper wrote:
I don't consider myself a particularly stupid man, but I have fuck all idea what is going on, and what any of these votes actually means when it comes to leaving the EU.


The government chief whip just failed to three line whip himself.


I mean, that would surely generally require a third party anyway? This is a failure of the whip-whipper!


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Who whips the whipmen

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I’m doing the march on 23rd. Anybody from here going?


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