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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2019 15:01 
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May as well have some fun with it.....

Mine is pretty boring though - 'The Crossley Way'

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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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So the EU have already rejected the Brady amendment before it's even been passed by parliament.

Good analysis of how awful it is here - http://politics.co.uk/blogs/2019/01/29/ ... -as-all-th

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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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It's infuriating that they have to make a statement that's obvious in response to an amendment that's idiotic. And all we do in the meantime is waste weeks we can't afford to lose.

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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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The whole thing, including Labour's behaviour on this, disgusts me.

This, but for basically everything that has happened in the last two-and-a-bit years.

If ever there was a job where people can usually get through on bluff and bluster whilst actually having zero knowledge or expertise then it's politics. Got fucking found out, the lot of them.

Well, it doesn't seem to have done them much harm so far, though. They're all still fucking there.


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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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It's infuriating that they have to make a statement that's obvious in response to an amendment that's idiotic. And all we do in the meantime is waste weeks we can't afford to lose.

Well, some of us have made alternative plans and fucked off to Singapore. Singapore Singapore rather than Singapore on Thames or whatever the fuck JRM has been on about.

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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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MrChris wrote:
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It's infuriating that they have to make a statement that's obvious in response to an amendment that's idiotic. And all we do in the meantime is waste weeks we can't afford to lose.

Well, some of us have made alternative plans and fucked off to Singapore. Singapore Singapore rather than Singapore on Thames or whatever the fuck JRM has been on about.


I suppose Singapore isn't the WW2 example the more obsessive Brexit-huggers are referencing.


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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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I'm enjoying this Brady novel game.


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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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Kern wrote:
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It's infuriating that they have to make a statement that's obvious in response to an amendment that's idiotic. And all we do in the meantime is waste weeks we can't afford to lose.

Well, some of us have made alternative plans and fucked off to Singapore. Singapore Singapore rather than Singapore on Thames or whatever the fuck JRM has been on about.


I suppose Singapore isn't the WW2 example the more obsessive Brexit-huggers are referencing.

Ha. I know what you mean, but no they are. But of course they are forgetting that the reason that Singapore is "successful" is that it is a dictatorship running on a fuckton of underpaid migrant labour.

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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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'The Brown Lodger'

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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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'The Brown Lodger'


ha, that's Brexit. A turd stuck in our parliamentary U-bend.


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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2019 17:26 
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All of these are euphemisms for taking a shit, as far as I can tell


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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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All of these are euphemisms for taking a shit, as far as I can tell


:D

We're nearing page 100 of this thread, BTW. Do we get a Brexit II thread, the Never-ending Brexit, the re-Brexiting, at 100?


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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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If it helps, I'm bored of both the original title and coming up with hilarious subtitles. I was tempted to cycle through obscenties in European languages at one point, however.


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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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I ran out of Eurovision winners pretty quickly. 'Waterloo' was always going to be the final one, obviously.

Quite like 'bidet'. Ties in with the war nonsense. It's like D-day, but shitter.


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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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The PM has finally agreed that her plan won't work and she is going to go back and renegotiate. Lots of MPs are very happy.
I imagine the EU is looking on in disbelief.


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Renegotiate to replace the backstop with 'alternative arrangements'. Her elbows won't hold up to all the handwaving it would need to make that make sense.

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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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Check out @stevedouble’s Tweet: https://twitter.com/stevedouble/status/ ... 8447825920


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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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My MP continues her long-running say-nothing-smile-more approach with this crap:

https://twitter.com/VictoriaPrentis/sta ... 1332967424




I managed stop myself replying with 'I want a blue unicorn'. Just about. I don't mind people having different views to me, so long as they're able to defend them and base them in something approximating reality. This is just empty words.


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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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I try really hard to leave my echo-chamber, but Brexitdancers make it very difficult to do so.

Is it really so hard to look at an issue, explain what the problem is, and set how how your approach resolves it whilst addressing open and honest criticism without resorting to empty mantras of 'will-of-the-people', 'take-back-control', or just unsubtle xenophobia? I'm not asking for much. Just something we can have an enjoyable and civil discussion about. Please?


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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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That ship sailed the moment that they decided to hold a referendum on it.


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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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I borrowed Mr O'Brien's book from the library and read it over Christmas. The line that stuck out was about Brexity people not knowing what they've won. Been thinking about that a lot lately. How will we be able to know that it's worked when we don't know what we're trying to acheive?


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Did anyone watch Inside Europe: Ten Years of Turmoil on Monday?

It left me thoroughly depressed on several levels.

1) How reasonable Europe's arguments have been for the last several years, let alone post-referendum
2) How childishly the UK has behaved as a direct result of the Tory's own self-interests for YEARS. The EU has been suffering this bullshit from us for a long time.
3) I felt sorry for Cameron in the end because of the utter dim-witted, self-serving cuntishness of the party he is sworn leader of. He was stuck in a hard place.
4) Euro-sceptics have been tussling for this for DECADES, yet in all those years they haven't developed a viable alternative plan.
5) There were no concessions the EU could make that would have stopped the referendum. The only acceptable result for hardliners was the removal of the UK from the EU, end of.

Childish pricks, the lot of them.

That said, it's interesting, very well made, if inordinately infuriating. And Donald Tusk is a dude.


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How will we be able to know that it's worked when we don't know what we're trying to acheive?


I don't think we ever will; I think leavers had so many different "reasons" for voting leave, that we'll never see a situation where a majority feels victorious.


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Did anyone watch Inside Europe: Ten Years of Turmoil on Monday?


I usually lap up documentaries like that but haven't watched it yet for fear of going to bed angry again. But I probably should, based on your post.


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Similarly, I couldn't face the documentary, but might have to watch it now, as I'm fascinated by the idea of feeling sorry for Cameron. I just can't make sense of that concept.

(Obviously I mean politically; his son dying was clearly tragic and no one should have to go through that.)


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Did anyone watch Inside Europe: Ten Years of Turmoil on Monday?


I usually lap up documentaries like that but haven't watched it yet for fear of going to bed angry again. But I probably should, based on your post.


I'd say the chances of angrily hitting the hay are high.


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I'd say the chances of angrily hitting the hay are high.


I'll stick to rolling in it then.


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4) Euro-sceptics have been tussling for this for DECADES, yet in all those years they haven't developed a viable alternative plan.


It's always easy to be against something. Heck, as an annoying 14 [24? - Ed.] year old I could churn out rants about the House of Lords, the monarchy, and the failings of the Major government to anyone who would* listen.

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It's just dawned on me that by being against all this, I'm right now being more conservative and unionist than the actual Conservative and Unionist Party.


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I'd say the chances of angrily hitting the hay are high.


I'll stick to rolling in it then.


Just avoid those wheat fields.


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Has giphy finally beaten the no nudity filter?


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Has giphy finally beaten the no nudity filter?


Hmm... didn't think she was fully nude, just leotarded, but I've removed it to be safe.


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Has giphy finally beaten the no nudity filter?


Hmm... didn't think she was fully nude, just leotarded, but I've removed it to be safe.


Her top half was definitely leotarded, but it seemed to end above her bottom half.

Of course, what it has to do with Paradox is another matter entirely.

That's the giphy paradox (Is it? - Ed)


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This is excellent on Labour's self-serving, but unsustainable, policy of ambiguity on Brexit.


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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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Gahhhhhhh.

A guy who buys fruit and veg for the UK (about 5% market share he says) explains why it will all be fucked.

https://www.lbc.co.uk/radio/presenters/ ... al-brexit/

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Did anyone watch Inside Europe: Ten Years of Turmoil on Monday?

It left me thoroughly depressed on several levels.

1) How reasonable Europe's arguments have been for the last several years, let alone post-referendum
2) How childishly the UK has behaved as a direct result of the Tory's own self-interests for YEARS. The EU has been suffering this bullshit from us for a long time.
3) I felt sorry for Cameron in the end because of the utter dim-witted, self-serving cuntishness of the party he is sworn leader of. He was stuck in a hard place.
4) Euro-sceptics have been tussling for this for DECADES, yet in all those years they haven't developed a viable alternative plan.
5) There were no concessions the EU could make that would have stopped the referendum. The only acceptable result for hardliners was the removal of the UK from the EU, end of.

Childish pricks, the lot of them.

That said, it's interesting, very well made, if inordinately infuriating. And Donald Tusk is a dude.


I did, or at least, half watched it. I didn't feel sorry for Cameron, though - it brought back to mind his empty gesture (and strategic error) of going back to Europe to renegotiate, which is what started the whole thing. He failed, as he was always going to, and that set us on the path to a referendum, and him to losing it. And the shot of Farage saying "did you see Dave's face?" (after he'd been turned down by the EU) was interesting in showing the chummy 'mates in a front room' lying behind UKIP, but also the skills (such as they are) that F. has.

But the whole basis for it all: that we need to renegotiate based on the idea that people come here and go straight onto benefits when no figures were produced to suggest this is a problem. So that was dog-whistle "they come over 'ere..!" bullshit, which might be helped if the Tories in any way believed education was a good thing and tried telling people what's what (see also May's "queue jumpers" crap). And, as I understand it, there's provision within EU law for 'us' to put restrictions on what people can claim, on what terms they are here and so on. Knowledge of which, again, isn't passed on to people. So the whole start of the thing was a load of cack, and Cameron could have handled it better.

So I suppose I could feel sorry for Cameron within the parameters of him following in a long line, assuming that everything they do much be pitched at some great mass of people who can't learn, and whose every prejudice must be indulged.


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Gahhhhhhh.

A guy who buys fruit and veg for the UK (about 5% market share he says) explains why it will all be fucked.

https://www.lbc.co.uk/radio/presenters/ ... al-brexit/


But at least he now gets to sell bendy bananas.


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