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Author: | Malc [ Mon Jul 09, 2018 21:00 ] |
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Jeremy Hunt is the new foreign secretary. |
Author: | Dr Zoidberg [ Mon Jul 09, 2018 21:03 ] |
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Meh. He’s going to do less damage there than as health secretary. |
Author: | Hearthly [ Mon Jul 09, 2018 21:12 ] |
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Dr Zoidberg wrote: Meh. He’s going to do less damage there than as health secretary. Attachment: dickhead.JPG
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Author: | Dr Zoidberg [ Mon Jul 09, 2018 21:23 ] |
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Hearthly wrote: Dr Zoidberg wrote: Meh. He’s going to do less damage there than as health secretary. Attachment: dickhead.JPG If Boris couldn’t cause a war despite his best efforts, I think we’re pretty safe. Obviously, in two years time when we are living on rats in a nuclear wasteland, I will admit I was wrong. |
Author: | Kern [ Mon Jul 09, 2018 21:33 ] |
Post subject: | Re: Taking the Brexit |
I'm scared to turn on the news lest Chris Grayling gets health. |
Author: | Kern [ Mon Jul 09, 2018 21:36 ] |
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Malc wrote: Jeremy Hunt is the new foreign secretary. He's a homeopath. As our power on the world stage gets increasingly diluted, we'll gradually regain the Empire. |
Author: | Cras [ Mon Jul 09, 2018 22:13 ] |
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Matt Hancock to health. Fucking hell, you're short of talent when you promote someone from Culture to Health. |
Author: | Hearthly [ Tue Jul 10, 2018 14:53 ] |
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I very much like this guy as well. Quote: In the absence of the logjam being broken, of course, there will be an outcome simply by virtue of the Article 50 process: no deal. Which is, indeed, the outcome that some of the Ultras want. For almost everyone else this would be a disaster on an unprecedented scale: massive economic and social dislocation leading to goodness knows what political calamity. This now seems more likely than it ever has done before, simply because it is the default if all other outcomes are rendered impossible (and the prospect of it is what increases the chances of an extension to the Article 50 period). http://chrisgreybrexitblog.blogspot.com ... eaves.html |
Author: | Doctor Glyndwr [ Tue Jul 10, 2018 16:57 ] |
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Absolutely scathing from the NYT https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/10/opin ... rexit.html Quote: For the second time in three years, Boris Johnson, a politician whose ambition and superficial charm far outstrip his ability, judgment or principles, is destabilizing the British government and threatening the country’s future.
On Monday, Mr. Johnson, in protest against Prime Minister Theresa May’s plans for Brexit, resigned from his post as foreign secretary. Now Mrs. May’s authority, longevity and ability to deliver a Brexit without causing an economic crisis are in question. But further political paralysis seems certain. Britain is in this mess principally because the Brexiteers — led largely by Mr. Johnson — sold the country a series of lies in the lead up to the June 2016 referendum on leaving the European Union. They did so because neither Mr. Johnson nor his fellow leader of the Leave campaign, Michael Gove, intended, wanted or expected to win. At the start of 2016, Mr. Johnson was perhaps the most popular politician in Britain. Supporters and fans mobbed him at train stations and traffic lights; pollsters and pundits thought he could reach the parts of the country that other Conservatives could never touch. But he was also driven and insecure, so desperate to guarantee he would be the next prime minister that he cynically abandoned his own previous positions on the European Union in order to try to secure support from his party’s Euroskeptic right wing. Because Mr. Johnson and Mr. Gove were confident that the Leave campaign was a hopeless cause, they were free to make ridiculous claims that they had no expectation of ever having to fulfill. They said that Brexit would make Britain both richer and more independent, with more money for the National Health Service, much greater control of immigration and continued friction-free trade with Europe. Every earnest warning from the other side — about how any Brexit would damage trade, business and jobs — was dismissed airily by the Brexiteers. There were no costs or downsides in this vision of the future. This casual dishonesty has had devastating consequences. In the two years since the Leave campaign unexpectedly won, nobody, from the prime minister to Mr. Johnson to the Labour Party, has been able to come up with a plan for exiting the European Union that can satisfy both a majority in Parliament and the expectant public. Why? Because fulfilling the false promises peddled by Mr. Johnson during the campaign is impossible. The gulf between the easy, prosperous, productive Brexit that its voters are impatiently expecting, and the grim, complicated cost of disentangling economies that have been intertwined for decades has poisoned and paralyzed British politics. The Conservatives’ leaders cannot admit to the electorate that they were deceived without splitting the party. And instead of apologizing for misleading voters, Mr. Johnson and the other Brexiteers have doubled down, taking refuge in optimistic slogans and vapid promises, refusing to believe the increasingly agitated evidence from hospitals, airlines, farmers, supermarkets and factories that a hard Brexit will damage them all. |
Author: | DBSnappa [ Tue Jul 10, 2018 18:43 ] |
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Wowee. That’s some damningly accurate summary of what a cunt he is. |
Author: | Doctor Glyndwr [ Wed Jul 11, 2018 11:26 ] |
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Fucking hell. https://twitter.com/PoliticsJOE_UK/stat ... 3248288768
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Author: | Kern [ Wed Jul 11, 2018 11:38 ] |
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The way I currently see it, we could be in situation where all imports could stop, food supplies run out, and we're all cowering around candles in caves, but Jeremy Corbyn still won't go in for the coup de grace on this administration. |
Author: | Doctor Glyndwr [ Wed Jul 11, 2018 11:45 ] |
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My take there is that Corbyn is willing to let the entire country go down the shitter due to the hardest Brexit in order to maximally embarrass the Tories and attempt to wrest an election victory out of the ashes. Presumably, his dictionary doesn't contain the word "Pyrrhic." |
Author: | Kern [ Wed Jul 11, 2018 11:46 ] |
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Clears the way for the New Jerusalem, I suppose. |
Author: | MaliA [ Wed Jul 11, 2018 11:49 ] |
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The diggers! |
Author: | MaliA [ Wed Jul 11, 2018 11:49 ] |
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Doctor Glyndwr wrote: My take there is that Corbyn is willing to let the entire country go down the shitter due to the hardest Brexit in order to maximally embarrass the Tories and attempt to wrest an election victory out of the ashes. Presumably, his dictionary doesn't contain the word "Pyrrhic." I agree with you. |
Author: | Zardoz [ Wed Jul 11, 2018 12:21 ] |
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Kern wrote: Clears the way for the New Jerusalem, I suppose. ZOMG Spoiler! Click here to view! |
Author: | BikNorton [ Wed Jul 11, 2018 18:36 ] |
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Has anyone sorted out getting the gas from Eastern Europe and electricity from France yet? |
Author: | Trooper [ Wed Jul 11, 2018 18:43 ] |
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BikNorton wrote: Has anyone sorted out getting the gas from Eastern Europe and electricity from France yet? I've got an empty jerry can in the car, if that would be useful. |
Author: | Doctor Glyndwr [ Wed Jul 11, 2018 18:50 ] |
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BikNorton wrote: Has anyone sorted out getting the gas from Eastern Europe and electricity from France yet? Funny you should mention: https://twitter.com/PickardJE/status/10 ... 9636920321
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Author: | Four_Candles [ Thu Jul 12, 2018 22:23 ] |
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Interesting, if there's No Deal we'll be in a State of Emergency ..... https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/p ... 43241.html |
Author: | LewieP [ Fri Jul 13, 2018 4:02 ] |
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Who could have possibly predicted that Trump, who destroys everything he touches, would respond to May offering him a state visit by throwing her under a bus. Makes sense though. Putin wants him destabilising Europe, and it's in America's interest to weaken the UK's negotiating position. I eagerly anticipate the UK taking back power by adopting the US pharmaceutical/medical model, dropping food standards, revoking many workers rights, fully embracing the prison industrial complex etc as part of the USA trade deal it will have no choice but to make. |
Author: | Doctor Glyndwr [ Fri Jul 13, 2018 10:10 ] |
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Absurd, Kafkaesque hypocrisy: https://twitter.com/steven_swinford/sta ... 9529487360
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Author: | Trooper [ Fri Jul 13, 2018 11:59 ] |
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Melania Trump is currently hanging out with Philip May, that must be an interesting conversation! |
Author: | Hearthly [ Fri Jul 13, 2018 12:44 ] |
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Probably at it like rabbits. |
Author: | Four_Candles [ Fri Jul 13, 2018 19:25 ] |
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LewieP wrote: Who could have possibly predicted that Trump, who destroys everything he touches, would respond to May offering him a state visit by throwing her under a bus. Makes sense though. Putin wants him destabilising Europe, and it's in America's interest to weaken the UK's negotiating position. I eagerly anticipate the UK taking back power by adopting the US pharmaceutical/medical model, dropping food standards, revoking many workers rights, fully embracing the prison industrial complex etc as part of the USA trade deal it will have no choice but to make. And now he's saying that The Sun posted "fake news", even though there's a damn audio recording: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/201 ... rexit-plan |
Author: | myp [ Fri Jul 13, 2018 19:28 ] |
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Of course, we already know where Trump is concerned that "fake news" just means "stuff I said but now need to disown for political reasons". |
Author: | Warhead [ Fri Jul 13, 2018 20:25 ] |
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Four_Candles wrote: LewieP wrote: Who could have possibly predicted that Trump, who destroys everything he touches, would respond to May offering him a state visit by throwing her under a bus. Makes sense though. Putin wants him destabilising Europe, and it's in America's interest to weaken the UK's negotiating position. I eagerly anticipate the UK taking back power by adopting the US pharmaceutical/medical model, dropping food standards, revoking many workers rights, fully embracing the prison industrial complex etc as part of the USA trade deal it will have no choice but to make. And now he's saying that The Sun posted "fake news", even though there's a damn audio recording: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/201 ... rexit-plan I'm surprised he hasn't said that audio recordings can be faked and claimed that he wasn’t even interviewed by The Sun. |
Author: | Malc [ Tue Jul 17, 2018 7:27 ] |
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Vote leave fined and reported to the police. I'd paste a link, but long pressing isn't doing anything in this text entry box. |
Author: | Trooper [ Tue Jul 17, 2018 7:39 ] |
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Today the MPs are voting on whether they should go on holiday early. I wonder what they will choose... |
Author: | Doctor Glyndwr [ Tue Jul 17, 2018 8:15 ] |
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Parliamentary summer recess isn’t holiday, they’re still working. It’s more like No Meetings Week, only longer. |
Author: | Trooper [ Tue Jul 17, 2018 9:02 ] |
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It's "can't do a no confidence vote if parliament isn't sitting" extension, as far as I can see. |
Author: | Malc [ Tue Jul 17, 2018 9:06 ] |
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Also perhaps can't debate the Electoral Commission findings into the Vote Leave campaign either |
Author: | DBSnappa [ Tue Jul 17, 2018 9:09 ] |
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Malc wrote: Also perhaps can't debate the Electoral Commission findings into the Vote Leave campaign either Isn’t this a moot point as it’s now in the hands of the police |
Author: | Malc [ Tue Jul 17, 2018 9:16 ] |
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I really don't know, I think it's a bit confusing personally, it's not like it's football league, and the players have just been fined for racist behaviour and now it's being referred to the police. It's an inquiry into a referendum that will decide the fate of this country for decades to come, surely it should have the powers of the police here, and now they've been found guilty and fined, all that's left is to work out what to do with the result. |
Author: | Trooper [ Tue Jul 17, 2018 9:43 ] |
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Nothing will happen from it, it's basically a 10% election rigging tax... Budgeting for it in your original costings in future will be the outcome, I expect. |
Author: | Cras [ Tue Jul 17, 2018 18:45 ] |
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All these amendment votes are amazing. Basically what's happening is the Tory's 4 red lines on Brexit are becoming 42 red lines by force of domestic law, half of them contradictory. |
Author: | Kern [ Wed Jul 18, 2018 7:57 ] |
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Vote Leave; end cheese. Quote: Everyday dairy products such as butter, yoghurt and cheese could become luxury items in Britain after Brexit, with price rises being caused by the slightest delay in the journey from farm to table, a report by the London School of Economics finds. The LSE research, commissioned by the company behind Lurpak, Anchor and Arla brands, also found that speciality cheeses could become scarce after Brexit, with escalating costs whatever the outcome of the exit negotiations. Guardian |
Author: | Hearthly [ Wed Jul 18, 2018 8:10 ] |
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Good old British Dairylea for everyone! Take that Froggies! |
Author: | Doctor Glyndwr [ Wed Jul 18, 2018 8:11 ] |
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Dairylea is made in Belgium. |
Author: | Hearthly [ Wed Jul 18, 2018 8:22 ] |
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That's just the kind of defeatist remoaner talk that is ruining Brexit and stopping Britain from being GREAT AGAIN. You enemy of the people, you. Fake news! |
Author: | myp [ Wed Jul 18, 2018 11:09 ] |
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I'm over Brexit satire, tbh. |
Author: | Four_Candles [ Thu Jul 19, 2018 12:40 ] |
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Let's have an Article 50 petition shall we? ' Rescind Art.50 if Vote Leave has broken Electoral Laws regarding 2016 referendum ' https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/223729 Signature count increasing pretty fast |
Author: | LewieP [ Thu Jul 19, 2018 12:50 ] |
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We can't rescind article 50 unless every other EU member state agrees. I can't imagine there wouldn't be terms attached. Goodbye rebate and probably goodbye pound sterling. |
Author: | markg [ Thu Jul 19, 2018 12:53 ] |
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If there was a chance of Brexit being cancelled then why would the rest of the EU would want to jeopardise it? Surely that would be the best outcome for everyone's self-interest. |
Author: | Satsuma [ Thu Jul 19, 2018 13:00 ] |
Post subject: | Re: Taking the Brexit |
LewieP wrote: We can't rescind article 50 unless every other EU member state agrees. The Treaty doesn’t even remotely say this. |
Author: | Four_Candles [ Fri Jul 20, 2018 11:00 ] |
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Satsuma wrote: LewieP wrote: We can't rescind article 50 unless every other EU member state agrees. The Treaty doesn’t even remotely say this. Although Parliament do need to vote to withdraw Article 50. |
Author: | Four_Candles [ Fri Jul 20, 2018 11:01 ] |
Post subject: | Re: Taking the Brexit |
Looks like there will be weekly government warnings on how to prepare for a No Deal Brexit, starting next week ............ https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/publ ... -d9wd3lwbk Reddit thread ........ https://www.reddit.com/r/ukpolitics/com ... al_brexit/ |
Author: | LewieP [ Fri Jul 20, 2018 11:11 ] |
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I imagine the best advice would be "get rid of the prime minister" |
Author: | Kern [ Fri Jul 20, 2018 11:21 ] |
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Called it. Crash the country; make people demand a rethink. Unfortunately, I don't trust her to do this competently, nor the Conservative Party to find a replacement who wouldn't accept that the fault lied with the idea rather than just the execution. |
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