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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
PostPosted: Thu Jul 05, 2018 17:37 
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Apparently Theresa May’s grand plan is to basically obey all EU rules without being a part of the EU, which is surely just a shit idea.

The Brexiteers are obviously up in arms about this, with cries of ‘sovereignty’ and ‘vassal state’, but they’re also massively pissed off that they can’t just destroy all rules, standards and regulations on stuff like food safety, which was their wet dream all along.

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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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Wait... does this mean we'll be less sovereign from Brussels once we've gained our sovereignty from Brussels?

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EDIT: Not quite what I was expecting, Giphy, but once again you've summed things up perfectly.


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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
PostPosted: Thu Jul 05, 2018 18:16 
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Kern wrote:
Wait... does this mean we'll be less sovereign from Brussels once we've gained our sovereignty from Brussels?

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EDIT: Not quite what I was expecting, Giphy, but once again you've summed things up perfectly.


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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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How hard can it be to build cars anyway? Surely we can just get some British companies to build them?


They could call them the Ukgo


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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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Curiosity wrote:
Apparently Theresa May’s grand plan is to basically obey all EU rules without being a part of the EU, which is surely just a shit idea.

The Brexiteers are obviously up in arms about this, with cries of ‘sovereignty’ and ‘vassal state’, but they’re also massively pissed off that they can’t just destroy all rules, standards and regulations on stuff like food safety, which was their wet dream all along.


Used to have an empire.

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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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Heh. That's very clever. But of course, knowing Mr Johnson and co., they could always agree then backtrack as soon as they're heading back.

Reminds me of one of my favourite political jokes about the former minister who sat in the back of his family car and wondered why it didn't start moving.


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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
PostPosted: Fri Jul 06, 2018 10:57 
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Bloody children. The lot of them

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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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Bye-bye Brexit Bulldog.


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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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What a stupid mess the Tory party is in right now.

You’d really expect Labour to be about ten points in front in the polls...

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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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Please, please tell me they're not going to put Michael Fucking Gove in charge of Brexit!


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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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Please, please tell me they're not going to put Michael Fucking Gove in charge of Brexit!

He was ok as justice minister *clutches at straws*

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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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Please, please tell me they're not going to put Michael Fucking Gove in charge of Brexit!

It's OK - Chris Grayling to the rescue!


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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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Dominic Raab gets the poisoned chalice.


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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2018 10:46 
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Raab's resounding success on that whole "British Bill of Rights" thing clearly make him the ideal man for the job.


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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2018 11:25 
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Ian Dunt's review of David Davis's reign pulls few punches.

The opening paragraph could serve as a full summation of the situation:

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There are few projects a lifelong eurosceptic could treasure more than managing Britain's withdrawal from the EU. David Davis was given the most coveted role in the history of his ideology and he flunked it, at every stage, with a series of unforced errors based on his own ignorance of the thing he ostensibly cared about.


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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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I enjoyed this line:

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His errors were so consistent and severe the opposition had started copying and pasting his own Commons statements as attack mechanisms.


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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2018 12:38 
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That is an excellent piece.


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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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And now bojo, Christ they'll be running out of biggots soon.


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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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He must be really angry about that new runway.


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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2018 15:09 
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Odds of this leading to a leadership challenge / 1922 thingy to May in some form?


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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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Rising, I'd say.


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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2018 15:21 
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We're going to end up with the 4 horsemen. Trump, Putin, Boris, Kim Jong Un.
There is a lot of irony in the thought that Kim is the sanest one of the bunch...


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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2018 15:30 
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So in essence the rats are deserting the ship at this point.

Well, Cameron was the first to go, cheerfully whistling to himself the day after he realised quite what the fuck it was he'd done.

Davis was completely out of his depth (Ian Dunt skewers him superbly in the article linked above by Kern), so took his chance to fuck off, and now Boris done the same.

Lying, incompetent, cowardly shower of cunts.


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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2018 15:59 
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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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Yougov have Reese-Mogg as the frontrunner to take over from May, rather than Johnson...


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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2018 16:28 
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Trooper wrote:
Yougov have Reese-Mogg as the frontrunner to take over from May, rather than Johnson...


And the advantage of 25 months.....

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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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Yougov have Reese-Mogg as the frontrunner to take over from May, rather than Johnson...

Because the vote goes to members, and a poll of them shows he'd lose in a head-to-head to not only Rees-Mogg, but also Gove, Davidson and even flipping Javid.

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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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He should have been sacked for disloyalty (let alone incompetence) years ago.

As for the Prime Minister, if she is defenestrated I really hope the Tory infighting keeps Mr Rees-Mogg away from the membership's leadership vote. Like Mr Johnson, he's someone who's spent years crafting an image to distract us from his real character and ambitions.


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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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he's someone who's spent years crafting an image to distract us from his real character and ambitions.


Unless his real character is something other than 'Dickensian villain' then I'm not sure he's done a great job there.


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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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Please let JRM be PM, please. It’d be ace.


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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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I think it would be horrifically compelling to watch, like how people slow down to rubberneck at car accidents, but just across the whole country, continuously, and with awful consequences for everyone for years and years to come.


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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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Off with her head.




Not so sure they will be in a hurry to get rid of May, she has made progress, not the best or what everyone wants, but progress all the same

I think even the self-serving Tory backstabbers now understand kicking May out will mean one of them will have to take the thankless task of Brexit negotiations on.


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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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Some northerner resigned.

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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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Jeremy Hunt is the new foreign secretary.

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Meh. He’s going to do less damage there than as health secretary.


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Meh. He’s going to do less damage there than as health secretary.


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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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Meh. He’s going to do less damage there than as health secretary.


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If Boris couldn’t cause a war despite his best efforts, I think we’re pretty safe.
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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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I'm scared to turn on the news lest Chris Grayling gets health.


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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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Jeremy Hunt is the new foreign secretary.


He's a homeopath. As our power on the world stage gets increasingly diluted, we'll gradually regain the Empire.


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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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Matt Hancock to health. Fucking hell, you're short of talent when you promote someone from Culture to Health.

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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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I very much like this guy as well.

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In the absence of the logjam being broken, of course, there will be an outcome simply by virtue of the Article 50 process: no deal. Which is, indeed, the outcome that some of the Ultras want. For almost everyone else this would be a disaster on an unprecedented scale: massive economic and social dislocation leading to goodness knows what political calamity. This now seems more likely than it ever has done before, simply because it is the default if all other outcomes are rendered impossible (and the prospect of it is what increases the chances of an extension to the Article 50 period).


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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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Absolutely scathing from the NYT

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/10/opin ... rexit.html

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For the second time in three years, Boris Johnson, a politician whose ambition and superficial charm far outstrip his ability, judgment or principles, is destabilizing the British government and threatening the country’s future.

On Monday, Mr. Johnson, in protest against Prime Minister Theresa May’s plans for Brexit, resigned from his post as foreign secretary. Now Mrs. May’s authority, longevity and ability to deliver a Brexit without causing an economic crisis are in question. But further political paralysis seems certain.

Britain is in this mess principally because the Brexiteers — led largely by Mr. Johnson — sold the country a series of lies in the lead up to the June 2016 referendum on leaving the European Union. They did so because neither Mr. Johnson nor his fellow leader of the Leave campaign, Michael Gove, intended, wanted or expected to win.

At the start of 2016, Mr. Johnson was perhaps the most popular politician in Britain. Supporters and fans mobbed him at train stations and traffic lights; pollsters and pundits thought he could reach the parts of the country that other Conservatives could never touch. But he was also driven and insecure, so desperate to guarantee he would be the next prime minister that he cynically abandoned his own previous positions on the European Union in order to try to secure support from his party’s Euroskeptic right wing.

Because Mr. Johnson and Mr. Gove were confident that the Leave campaign was a hopeless cause, they were free to make ridiculous claims that they had no expectation of ever having to fulfill. They said that Brexit would make Britain both richer and more independent, with more money for the National Health Service, much greater control of immigration and continued friction-free trade with Europe.

Every earnest warning from the other side — about how any Brexit would damage trade, business and jobs — was dismissed airily by the Brexiteers. There were no costs or downsides in this vision of the future.

This casual dishonesty has had devastating consequences.

In the two years since the Leave campaign unexpectedly won, nobody, from the prime minister to Mr. Johnson to the Labour Party, has been able to come up with a plan for exiting the European Union that can satisfy both a majority in Parliament and the expectant public. Why? Because fulfilling the false promises peddled by Mr. Johnson during the campaign is impossible.

The gulf between the easy, prosperous, productive Brexit that its voters are impatiently expecting, and the grim, complicated cost of disentangling economies that have been intertwined for decades has poisoned and paralyzed British politics.

The Conservatives’ leaders cannot admit to the electorate that they were deceived without splitting the party. And instead of apologizing for misleading voters, Mr. Johnson and the other Brexiteers have doubled down, taking refuge in optimistic slogans and vapid promises, refusing to believe the increasingly agitated evidence from hospitals, airlines, farmers, supermarkets and factories that a hard Brexit will damage them all.


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Wowee. That’s some damningly accurate summary of what a cunt he is.

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