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Check out @campbellclaret’s Tweet: https://twitter.com/campbellclaret/stat ... 53472?s=09

Missed opportunity for a zinger of an Iraq comeback there, though.

3) Let Scotland go on its own now. They got well shafted yesterday.

After all, the people who are supposed to be in charge of Brexit, the contestants on the Hate Island that is the Tory party, don’t appear to have a clue either. The negotiations with Brussels are stalled because the cabinet is still not agreed on which form of customs arrangement to propose for rejection by the EU.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/jun/17/europe-losing-interest-brexit-soap-it-has-bigger-worries

Where do I apply for my share of the Brexit dividend?

I tried to write a message to my MP but was unable to find a form of words that wasn't angry or condescending, so just started yelling at my TV instead.

And the rebel tories have fallen back into line, again. Why they trust a word the administration says anymore is beyond me.

I'm amazed that the Tories are still doing pretty well in polls. I don't know if it's due to the general public not paying attention to the news, Twitter etc., or they do pay some attention and just don't see Labour (or anyone else) as a viable alternative. Depressing, either way.

The Minister will have to correct me if I am wrong, but my understanding from the Library and other sources is that the Germans have paid a total of €75 billion in compensation to other countries for war damage. I find that figure breathtakingly small. When we bear in mind that we are being told to stump up €40 billion for having the temerity to leave the European Union, it is amazing that the Germans have paid only €75 billion for the complete destruction of our continent and the murder of millions of people.

Love the Ship and Shovel. Great choice!

Kern wrote:

Love the Ship and Shovel. Great choice!

Looks like my fellow remainers do too, lots of blue and yellow were to be seen!

Make no mistake: a multinational is now showing Brexit Britain and its shambles of a government the red card. And it will not be the last.

The significance of this is hard to overstate. Airbus directly employs 14,000 people in Britain; its supply chain supports a further 110,000 jobs here. In a country beset by low pay and low productivity, this sector is the opposite: highly skilled, highly paid, and with productivity growth of around 4% a year (compared with only 1% in the wider economy).

No one's even pretending now that it's going to be anything other than a fucking disaster in every conceivable sense. Fucking Boris Johnson and his cabal of Leavers should be tried for treason

So wait, is big business good or bad, I'm confused? Should things be done for the markets, or for the people, or for the principles?

Author:	markg [ Tue Jun 12, 2018 11:10 ]
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Missed opportunity for a zinger of an Iraq comeback there, though.

Author:	myp [ Tue Jun 12, 2018 12:13 ]
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MaliA wrote: Check out @campbellclaret’s Tweet: https://twitter.com/campbellclaret/stat ... 53472?s=09 Wow, the hypocrisy.

Author:	MrChris [ Tue Jun 12, 2018 14:41 ]
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markg wrote: Missed opportunity for a zinger of an Iraq comeback there, though. I think about 500 people did it for him, looking at the replies.... Normally Campbell is a sensible, intelligent, worthy chap, but that was just silly.

Author:	Kern [ Wed Jun 13, 2018 18:55 ]
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My MP: https://twitter.com/VictoriaPrentis/sta ... 0903828481 2nd day debating #EUWithdrawalBill. Spending my time listening to contributions. Please bear with me if you have contacted me. Received a vast no. of emails from constituents supporting campaigns ranging from Don't Block Brexit to Stop Brexit. Sadly won't be poss to please all. — Victoria Prentis MP (@VictoriaPrentis) June 13, 2018 It's the 'sorry not poss...' that is pissing me off right now. I might need to reconfigure hosts.txt to send 'www.writetothem.com' to /dev/null lest I have any more more beers.

Author:	MaliA [ Wed Jun 13, 2018 20:40 ]
Post subject:	Re: Taking the Brexit
1) All of what parliament is saying and doing doesn't make any sense to me. They can say "We want X and Y but not Z" and make all the noise in the world about it, but if you need XY and Z together to do anything, an have been told that, then it all becomes a stupid waste of time. It's just posturing bullshit. 2) Christ knows what "We'll abstain" is going to achieve other than being able to say "we didn't vote for it". it's cowardly. 3) Let Scotland go on its own now. They got well shafted yesterday.

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Author:	Cras [ Wed Jun 13, 2018 21:09 ]
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We're long past the point of Brexit going well. Everything happening in politics right not is maneuvering for a post Brexit position of being able to say 'I wasn't at fault'.

Author:	Kern [ Wed Jun 13, 2018 22:02 ]
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MaliA wrote: 3) Let Scotland go on its own now. They got well shafted yesterday. Pains me to say it, but I wouldn't blame them if they go their own way thanks to all of this. Good work, Conservative and Unionist Party, good work.

Author:	Hearthly [ Fri Jun 15, 2018 8:09 ]
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Arguably makes more sense than the actual Brexit 'policies' that are being pursued. Attachment: Screenshot 2018-06-15 at 08.08.51.png

Author:	DavPaz [ Fri Jun 15, 2018 8:28 ]
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Anyone fancy a cup of tea? Karen's brought in a packet of Brexit. There's enough for everyone! Well, some of you might have to share. And some of you aren't eligible. Definitely not you, Muhammed.

Author:	Kern [ Fri Jun 15, 2018 8:38 ]
Post subject:	Re: Taking the Brexit
I'm trying to turn 'Brexit' into an adjective. As in, 'my last essay was a bit Brexit' or 'I made a complete Brexit of that date last night', but perhaps the word is just too powerful for those kinds of sentences. Maybe it should be reserved for the most serious of cases: 'the Charge of the Light Brigade was a complete Brexit of a military action'

Author:	Zardoz [ Fri Jun 15, 2018 9:47 ]
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They're making a right fucking Brexit of Brexit.

Author:	Sir Taxalot [ Mon Jun 18, 2018 1:54 ]
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Get To Brexiting Brexit

Author:	Kern [ Mon Jun 18, 2018 8:00 ]
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I'm absolutely disgusted that the Prime Minister is harping on about a 'Brexit Dividend' to pay for the NHS. A complete and utter lie. We might as well fund it from the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow, but that would just bring the Irish Border question up again and cause all manner of additional trouble. Sadly, I fear we're going to see more of this kind of open deceit, now that Mr Trump has demonstrated how successful lying constantly and openly can be.

Author:	Hearthly [ Mon Jun 18, 2018 8:20 ]
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It's so farcical as to be beyond ridicule, if ever there were a fitting scenario for the old saying 'It'd almost be funny if it weren't true', Brexit is it. I try not to worry about it too much as it's completely out of my control, and I like to believe we won't crash out of the EU with no deal, (even accepting that any deal will be far worse than what we have now), but looking at the burning wreckage hurtling down the tracks to the cliff edge, one has to wonder. Quote: After all, the people who are supposed to be in charge of Brexit, the contestants on the Hate Island that is the Tory party, don’t appear to have a clue either. The negotiations with Brussels are stalled because the cabinet is still not agreed on which form of customs arrangement to propose for rejection by the EU. https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... er-worries

Author:	JBR [ Mon Jun 18, 2018 14:27 ]
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I think they (leave campaign) tapped into lying as tactic - check the official flyer, I counted four in there. And that's not including Farage's lot. The Tories continued into the election campaign, and probably still haven't learned their lesson, given the way they increased their vote. It's short-sighted, though, short term expediency at best. Once they get properly stuck with the brand of being liars, it'll take them a long time to shift it. A bit like the sleaze tag hung around, not always justifiedly, for a long time. It is depressing and maddening, mind.

Author:	Doctor Glyndwr [ Tue Jun 19, 2018 13:00 ]
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Yup: https://twitter.com/MichaelPDeacon/stat ... 2486009857 In the Commons, Labour MPs have tried to tell ministers that there's no "Brexit dividend", so where's the money really coming from? Each time, ministers have been able to dodge the question by saying: If there's no Brexit dividend, how come Corbyn says there is one? — Michael Deacon (@MichaelPDeacon) June 19, 2018

Author:	GazChap [ Thu Jun 21, 2018 9:21 ]
Post subject:	Re: Taking the Brexit
Jesus Fucking Christ. I can't say that surprises me, he's my old MP (I no longer live in that constituency) He voted overwhelmingly for equal gay rights and same sex marriage, but against the promotion of equality and human rights - which I just can't reconcile in my head other than a "well, equal gay rights directly affects me" kind of way (he's bisexual) He's also consistently voted against further integration with the EU, and also against a right to remain for EU nationals already living in the UK, which again I can't understand given his heritage. Oh, and he's very pro-Saudi Arabia.

Author:	NervousPete [ Fri Jun 22, 2018 18:55 ]
Post subject:	Re: Taking the Brexit
If anyone's in London tomorrow am probably heading to the march, should I get my act together for a super-early start, so if anyone is up for pub afterwarda in the city centre, or is likewise marching, PM me. Ta!

Author:	Kern [ Mon Jun 18, 2018 8:29 ]
Post subject:	Re: Taking the Brexit
Hearthly wrote: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/jun/17/europe-losing-interest-brexit-soap-it-has-bigger-worries That's a good article. He's quite right to highlight that the rest of the EU doesn't really care about this, and how insignificant we are outside of the larger bloc. Sadly this won't stop the nostalgic-Britannia-rules-the-waves Brexit fans from continuing to delude themselves that the world was happier when it was mostly pink.

Author:	LewieP [ Mon Jun 18, 2018 14:34 ]
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Where do I apply for my share of the Brexit dividend?

Author:	Kern [ Mon Jun 18, 2018 14:36 ]
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LewieP wrote: Where do I apply for my share of the Brexit dividend? Easy. Just move to Paris, Frankfurt, or Dublin.

Author:	Kris [ Tue Jun 19, 2018 9:31 ]
Post subject:	Re: Taking the Brexit
Definitely on board with Dublin; get me some tasty Guinness...

Author:	Kern [ Wed Jun 20, 2018 8:25 ]
Post subject:	Re: Taking the Brexit
I'm still struggling to understand why MPs wouldn't want to have control over the negotiations and what happens if the agreement is a bit rubbish. Otherwise we might as well just not bother with a legislature and turn Westminster into a rather ornate Wetherspoons. I tried to write a message to my MP but was unable to find a form of words that wasn't angry or condescending, so just started yelling at my TV instead.

Author:	Hearthly [ Wed Jun 20, 2018 8:56 ]
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Kern wrote: I tried to write a message to my MP but was unable to find a form of words that wasn't angry or condescending, so just started yelling at my TV instead. Officially 100% more effective than Mrs May was on Brexit yesterday.

Author:	Doctor Glyndwr [ Wed Jun 20, 2018 9:47 ]
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https://twitter.com/13sarahmurphy/statu ... 8881555457 Tory whips now whipping Labour MPs.... to have no meaningful vote if government fails to achieve a deal. Yes. You read that right. Parliament might have gone completely mad. (Times) pic.twitter.com/Y7Bvqgn13k — sarah murphy (@13sarahmurphy) June 20, 2018

Author:	Kern [ Wed Jun 20, 2018 9:49 ]
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Akin to the wolf promising to eat you last.

Author:	Kern [ Wed Jun 20, 2018 15:06 ]
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And the rebel tories have fallen back into line, again. Why they trust a word the administration says anymore is beyond me.

Author:	devilman [ Wed Jun 20, 2018 15:20 ]
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Kern wrote: And the rebel tories have fallen back into line, again. Why they trust a word the administration says anymore is beyond me. I'm amazed that the Tories are still doing pretty well in polls. I don't know if it's due to the general public not paying attention to the news, Twitter etc., or they do pay some attention and just don't see Labour (or anyone else) as a viable alternative. Depressing, either way.

Author:	GazChap [ Wed Jun 20, 2018 16:09 ]
Post subject:	Re: Taking the Brexit
devilman wrote: I'm amazed that the Tories are still doing pretty well in polls. I don't know if it's due to the general public not paying attention to the news, Twitter etc., or they do pay some attention and just don't see Labour (or anyone else) as a viable alternative. Depressing, either way. i think it's more a "fuck you, got mine" attitude.

Author:	Kern [ Thu Jun 21, 2018 8:17 ]
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Maybe it's me, but a debate about whether Germany should be paying Poland war reparations probably isn't the best place for a cheap anti-EU jibe: Daniel Kawczynski (Shrewsbury and Atcham) (Con) wrote: The Minister will have to correct me if I am wrong, but my understanding from the Library and other sources is that the Germans have paid a total of €75 billion in compensation to other countries for war damage. I find that figure breathtakingly small. When we bear in mind that we are being told to stump up €40 billion for having the temerity to leave the European Union, it is amazing that the Germans have paid only €75 billion for the complete destruction of our continent and the murder of millions of people.

Author:	MaliA [ Fri Jun 22, 2018 14:13 ]
Post subject:	Re: Taking the Brexit
Check out @pangopup’s Tweet: https://twitter.com/pangopup/status/1010116153312567296 The fucking audacity. You were all literally told this would happen years ago, you planks. The bullshit surprise that there are consequences to your decisions are getting tedious as shit. pic.twitter.com/qR1cJnuqu7 — pooka (@pangopup) June 22, 2018

Author:	Grim... [ Fri Jun 22, 2018 19:37 ]
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What march?

Author:	myp [ Fri Jun 22, 2018 19:44 ]
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Grim... wrote: What march? https://www.theneweuropean.co.uk/top-st ... -1-5573899 Guessing that one.

Author:	NervousPete [ Fri Jun 22, 2018 20:08 ]
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Yup, that's the one. Not that I'm even remotely optimistic, but at least I might get some good photography out of it, as well as venting frustration.

Author:	Doctor Glyndwr [ Sat Jun 23, 2018 10:21 ]
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https://twitter.com/JimMFelton/status/1 ... 4759789569 2016: â€œBrexit will provide more opportunities for businessâ€ 2018: â€œFuck businessâ€ pic.twitter.com/qM0S4oX6ye — James Felton (@JimMFelton) June 23, 2018

Author:	myp [ Sat Jun 23, 2018 10:26 ]
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The party of capitalism I guess?

Author:	Trooper [ Sat Jun 23, 2018 10:32 ]
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Maybe he was highlighting how Brexit will help the prostitution industry?

Author:	NervousPete [ Sat Jun 23, 2018 16:14 ]
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Phew. Lots out here. Did the full march but now my scrawny pins doth protest so have retreated to The Ship & Shovel for a pint. Saying might be a 100k out. Felt like it funnelled down Pall Mall. Good day for street photography too. Obv.