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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
PostPosted: Fri Dec 08, 2017 11:29 
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The weirdest thing is seeing arseholes on Twitter like Guido Fawkes and Julia Hartley-Brewer crowing about how this is a Hard Brexit and how all the Remainers will be crying today, and how May has achieved everything amazingly well.

And there’s starting to be a slow dawning realisation that they got almost nothing that they wanted.

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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
PostPosted: Fri Dec 08, 2017 11:30 
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Gove makes my skin crawl.

Mine too but to his credit I read the other day that he had said some good things about soil. They should just make him the minister for soil.


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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
PostPosted: Fri Dec 08, 2017 11:33 
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Right, so the government conceded on having talks in parallel regrading leaving and trade, the government will pay £50 billion to leave, regulations will be startlingly similar, being outside customs union makes trade harder, and the courts might still refer things to the ECJ.

That's good skills, there.


Still a weird agreement...monday's seemed quite well form my point of view... but then the DUPpers used their trump card.. on that point they have now basically said 'well, as long as UK will fix that, it's ok'.. so are they counting on a future without the DUP to arrange this point?

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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
PostPosted: Fri Dec 08, 2017 11:42 
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MaliA wrote:
Gove makes my skin crawl.

Mine too but to his credit I read the other day that he had said some good things about soil. They should just make him the minister for soil.

They made him the minister for soiling Britain. Close enough?


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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
PostPosted: Fri Dec 08, 2017 13:46 
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Looks like we got out just in time, EU is proposing to mess with Doner Kebabs :)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-42238363


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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
PostPosted: Fri Dec 08, 2017 13:49 
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Looks like we got out just in time, EU is proposing to mess with Doner Kebabs :)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-42238363


Kebabs and blue passports. Great, that's the number of benefits of leaving doubled.

Of course, as a free and sovereign nation (TM), Parliament will look at the issue, consider it, then follow what the EU wants us to do because of regulatory alignment. But it'll be a free decision, so that's ok then.


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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
PostPosted: Fri Dec 08, 2017 14:26 
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If I was the EU I'd definitely have made red passports one of the conditions to move on with negotiations. Just for the LOLs.


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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
PostPosted: Fri Dec 08, 2017 14:29 
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If I was the EU I'd definitely have made red passports one of the conditions to move on with negotiations. Just for the LOLs.


I'd make British officials get on their knees before any meeting, just to emphasise the status of the relationship.


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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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I like my red passport :(

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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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Same. It's much nicer than navy

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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
PostPosted: Fri Dec 08, 2017 17:53 
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Same. It's much nicer than navy


It's the royal crest that annoys me most. I'd much prefer a railway train.


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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
PostPosted: Fri Dec 08, 2017 17:55 
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Just finished Nick Clegg's book on how to stop Brexit. The first half goes over the current situation but hasn't told me anything new. The meat of the book is in the second half and some of his solutions are clever, workable, yet sadly likely to be ignored.

Readable but glad I got it from the library so only paid the reservation fee.


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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
PostPosted: Sun Dec 10, 2017 2:24 
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https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... eal-for-uk

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After a week that saw May reach a deal with the EU that will allow Brexit talks to move forward on to future trade relations, EU officials insisted a bespoke deal more favourable to the UK than other non-EU nations was out of the question.

One EU source close to the talks said: “We have been approached by a number of [non-member] countries expressing concerns and making it clear that it would constitute a major problem for them if suddenly the UK were to get better terms than they get.”


Quelle surprise.

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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
PostPosted: Tue Dec 12, 2017 14:34 
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David Davis TALKING BRITAIN DOWN.

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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
PostPosted: Wed Dec 13, 2017 21:48 
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My MP continues to impress me:

https://twitter.com/S_Hammond/status/941039278871728128




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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
PostPosted: Sun Dec 17, 2017 15:19 
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The Sun running with a headline that Britain will enter an 'overtime bonanza' as we leave the EU and exit the Working Time Directive, meaning that employees will be able to do more overtime hours and earn more money.

The WTD is already opt-out, so there's absolutely nothing stopping that happening today. All the WTD does is prevent employers from _forcing_ employees to work an excessive number of hours. How can they possibly have the gall to spin this as a positive outcome?!

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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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I was pretty sure Mr Gove et al had promised to protect workers' rights. This pledge must have gone the way of the £350 million a week for the NHS.


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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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Well they are selling it as protecting workers' rights to work more hours, which is insane.

(Let's not forget there's lots of other stuff tied into the same legislation as the WTD, like the right to paid vacation)

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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
PostPosted: Sun Dec 17, 2017 18:02 
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It's ludicrous. They know exactly what they're doing though.

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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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"And do not suppose this is the end, this is only the beginning of the reckoning. This is only the first sip, the first foretaste of a bitter cup which will be proffered to us year by year unless by a supreme recovery of moral health and martial vigour, we arise again and take our stand for freedom as in olden time."

Churchill. Who was pro-EU, incidentally.

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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
PostPosted: Sun Dec 17, 2017 20:16 
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There is no way any overtime will be paid at a higher rate, though, if at all.

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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
PostPosted: Sun Dec 17, 2017 22:48 
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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
PostPosted: Mon Dec 18, 2017 9:25 
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According to the news this morning, the Cabinet will discuss what they want our final relationship with the EU to look like. This really should have been done before they activated Article 50. What a pathetic way to run a country.

It's one thing to do something I don't agree with. It's a whole bigger problem when you do it so incompetently.


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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
PostPosted: Mon Dec 18, 2017 10:54 
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According to the news this morning, the Cabinet will discuss what they think the Daily Mail wants us to do next.


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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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I was bored on a conference call this morning...
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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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Bloody love Bercow.

"You are never mutineers, never traitors, never malcontents, never enemies of the people" - the Speaker's message to MPs after hearing stories of online abuse. https://t.co/0uU5bfGXK9

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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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This leaflet was waiting for me in my letter box today:


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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
PostPosted: Tue Dec 19, 2017 18:01 
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Expect to hear more of the 'betrayal' line over the next few months. Like 'Doctor Who' fans, Brexit lovers will spend their lives debating when it was ruined forever.


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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
PostPosted: Tue Dec 19, 2017 21:13 
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