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Author: | Grim... [ Wed Apr 19, 2017 23:08 ] |
Post subject: | Re: Taking the Brexit |
A flashing neon sign, no less. |
Author: | Sir Taxalot [ Thu Apr 20, 2017 2:01 ] |
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Grim... wrote: A flashing neon sign, no less. With a snow machine on the roof that people are too lazy to turn off |
Author: | Kern [ Thu Apr 20, 2017 8:55 ] |
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Continuing our on-going series of the benefits of Brexit, we turn to Westminster Hall where MPs were yesterday debating another vital gain of becoming a free and independent nation again: the choice of flag on a car's numberplate. |
Author: | myp [ Thu Apr 20, 2017 9:12 ] |
Post subject: | Re: Taking the Brexit |
Kern wrote: Continuing our on-going series of the benefits of Brexit, we turn to Westminster Hall where MPs were yesterday debating another vital gain of becoming a free and independent nation again: the choice of flag on a car's numberplate. Fucking hell. Who gives a shit |
Author: | markg [ Thu Apr 20, 2017 9:14 ] |
Post subject: | Re: Taking the Brexit |
I propose a bill where everyone who wants to have a flag on their number plate can do but only if they then take that number plate and SHOVE IT RIGHT UP THEIR STUPID FUCKING BREXITEERING ARSE. |
Author: | Kern [ Thu Apr 20, 2017 9:18 ] |
Post subject: | Re: Taking the Brexit |
Symbols matter. To some people, the EU flag on their car, the words 'European Union' on their passport, the use of the CE mark rather than the Crown on a pint glass and so on all suggest that the EU is usurping the UK as the sovereign state. Admittedly, I've not been immune to this. I've always found some aspects of the EU's pretensions to statehood rather comical, but then I find most UK ceremonies wryly amusing too. And other than the 50 Euro note and the phallic imagery on the first issues of Euro coins, the EU tended to be bland and unoffensive - as appealing to loyalty as a local Tesco. |
Author: | Kern [ Thu Apr 20, 2017 9:19 ] |
Post subject: | Re: Taking the Brexit |
markg wrote: I propose a bill where everyone who wants to have a flag on their number plate can do but only if they then take that number plate and SHOVE IT RIGHT UP THEIR STUPID FUCKING BREXITEERING ARSE. I think we should complain that it's still 'GB', thus excluding our Northern Irish brethren. |
Author: | devilman [ Thu Apr 20, 2017 9:30 ] |
Post subject: | Re: Taking the Brexit |
Lonewolves wrote: Kern wrote: Continuing our on-going series of the benefits of Brexit, we turn to Westminster Hall where MPs were yesterday debating another vital gain of becoming a free and independent nation again: the choice of flag on a car's numberplate. Fucking hell. Who gives a shit I had to stop reading part-way through when I realised how much discussion was being had over the issue. It's like they can't even think about all the big stuff that Brexit's going to change, so they're doing the easy stuff. It should just have gone - - I beg to move, that this House has considered the use of regional flags on driving licences and number plates. - Ok. We'll discuss that later according to its importance. I've allocated it to item number 329804732984729 on the Brexit agenda. |
Author: | myp [ Thu Apr 20, 2017 9:32 ] |
Post subject: | Re: Taking the Brexit |
Kern wrote: Symbols matter. To some people, the EU flag on their car, the words 'European Union' on their passport, the use of the CE mark rather than the Crown on a pint glass and so on all suggest that the EU is usurping the UK as the sovereign state. Those people are wrong though. |
Author: | MrChris [ Thu Apr 20, 2017 9:38 ] |
Post subject: | Re: Taking the Brexit |
Weeeeell, I can sort of see where they're coming from, a bit. I mean, the idea of sovereign nation states has been fairly embedded in European consciousness since the Treaty of Westphalia. |
Author: | Kern [ Thu Apr 20, 2017 9:39 ] |
Post subject: | Re: Taking the Brexit |
Whenever you're in difficulty around the world, just remind officials, immigration officers, nightclub bouncers, etc that Her Britannic Majesty's Secretary of State Requests and Requires in the Name of Her Majesty all those whom it may concern to allow the bearer to pass freely without let or hindrance. Works every time. |
Author: | Kern [ Thu Apr 20, 2017 9:40 ] |
Post subject: | Re: Taking the Brexit |
MrChris wrote: Weeeeell, I can sort of see where they're coming from, a bit. I mean, the idea of sovereign nation states has been fairly embedded in European consciousness since the Treaty of Westphalia. And the idea's kept the peace ever since. |
Author: | myp [ Thu Apr 20, 2017 9:43 ] |
Post subject: | Re: Taking the Brexit |
I have no interest in nationalism or 'patriotism'. A flag is just a piece of material. I don't see the point in being proud purely because I was born on one particular bit of rock over another. To me being a good patriot is putting the interest of the country's people first, and we don't appear to be doing that at all. |
Author: | Mr Dave [ Thu Apr 20, 2017 9:55 ] |
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Lonewolves wrote: I have no interest in nationalism or 'patriotism'. A flag is just a piece of material. I don't see the point in being proud purely because I was born on one particular bit of rock over another. To me being a good patriot is putting the interest of the country's people first, and we don't appear to be doing that at all. |
Author: | MrChris [ Thu Apr 20, 2017 9:57 ] |
Post subject: | Re: Taking the Brexit |
Kern wrote: MrChris wrote: Weeeeell, I can sort of see where they're coming from, a bit. I mean, the idea of sovereign nation states has been fairly embedded in European consciousness since the Treaty of Westphalia. And the idea's kept the peace ever since. Heh. To be fair, we didn't have another Hundred Years War. Myp, true, but if one wants to be charitable perhaps it isn't nationalism per se, but more about a sense of belonging to something (and latching onto the visible markers of that), which is part of our evolutionary strategy as a species - the idea of society and behaviour that doesn't involve killing anyone and taking their stuff flows along from what was a pack or tribe, and it's just extended out. At some point hopefully we'll get to the "world is my society" stage, but I won't hold my breath. Particularly given that most people can't hold sustain more than a handful of relationships at any one time, so I'm not sure how scalable it is. |
Author: | MaliA [ Thu Apr 20, 2017 10:04 ] |
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Kern wrote: Continuing our on-going series of the benefits of Brexit, we turn to Westminster Hall where MPs were yesterday debating another vital gain of becoming a free and independent nation again: the choice of flag on a car's numberplate. Interesting side comment about the constitutional status of Kernow, there, too Quote: I propose that, should a motorist want to have a flag for their country or county—or, in Cornwall’s case, duchy—the flag could be accompanied by a Union Jack to make it clear that the vehicle was from the United Kingdom.
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Author: | MrChris [ Thu Apr 20, 2017 10:05 ] |
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It's never been a country, and never will be a country. Just like Wales. |
Author: | Grim... [ Thu Apr 20, 2017 10:08 ] |
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It's not a Union Jack! |
Author: | Mr Russell [ Thu Apr 20, 2017 10:10 ] |
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Grim... wrote: It's not a Union Jack! They said it could be now (if you're referring to the ship thing). |
Author: | myp [ Thu Apr 20, 2017 10:11 ] |
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Common usage, innit. |
Author: | Mr Russell [ Thu Apr 20, 2017 10:11 ] |
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https://www.flaginstitute.org/wp/britis ... nion-flag/ Quote: It is often stated that the Union Flag should only be described as the Union Jack when flown in the bows of a warship, but this is a relatively recent idea. From early in its life the Admiralty itself frequently referred to the flag as the Union Jack, whatever its use, and in 1902 an Admiralty Circular announced that Their Lordships had decided that either name could be used officially. Such use was given Parliamentary approval in 1908 when it was stated that “the Union Jack should be regarded as the National flag”.
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Author: | Kern [ Thu Apr 20, 2017 10:16 ] |
Post subject: | Re: Taking the Brexit |
Just don't fly it upside down. |
Author: | MaliA [ Thu Apr 20, 2017 10:17 ] |
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MrChris wrote: It's never been a country, and never will be a country. Just like Wales. That's because of oppression, innit? |
Author: | markg [ Thu Apr 20, 2017 10:18 ] |
Post subject: | Re: Taking the Brexit |
If people didn't want their precious flag flying the wrong way up then they should have put a bit more fucking effort into making sure it looked a bit more different when it is. |
Author: | myp [ Thu Apr 20, 2017 10:22 ] |
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Union jack-off motion more like |
Author: | Mr Russell [ Thu Apr 20, 2017 10:22 ] |
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markg wrote: If people didn't want their precious flag flying the wrong way up then they should have put a bit more fucking effort into making sure it looked a bit more different when it is. Speaking of flags, when we went to IKEA last week, they had the Swedish flag flying at half mast to mark the tragedy in Stockholm. I was sufficiently touched to put in a glowing review on their in-store computer. |
Author: | Grim... [ Thu Apr 20, 2017 11:42 ] |
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markg wrote: If people didn't want their precious flag flying the wrong way up then they should have put a bit more fucking effort into making sure it looked a bit more different when it is. Wasn't that the point, though? So baddies wouldn't notice when you were doing it? |
Author: | Bobbyaro [ Thu Apr 20, 2017 12:51 ] |
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MaliA wrote: MrChris wrote: It's never been a country, and never will be a country. Just like Wales. That's because of oppression, innit? No. |
Author: | markg [ Thu Apr 20, 2017 12:53 ] |
Post subject: | Re: Taking the Brexit |
Grim... wrote: markg wrote: If people didn't want their precious flag flying the wrong way up then they should have put a bit more fucking effort into making sure it looked a bit more different when it is. Wasn't that the point, though? So baddies wouldn't notice when you were doing it? |
Author: | MaliA [ Thu Apr 20, 2017 12:55 ] |
Post subject: | Re: Taking the Brexit |
Bobbyaro wrote: MaliA wrote: MrChris wrote: It's never been a country, and never will be a country. Just like Wales. That's because of oppression, innit? No. Yes http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/03 ... g-britain/ |
Author: | Cras [ Thu Apr 20, 2017 13:09 ] |
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MaliA wrote: Bobbyaro wrote: MaliA wrote: MrChris wrote: It's never been a country, and never will be a country. Just like Wales. That's because of oppression, innit? No. Yes http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/03 ... g-britain/ Cornwall voted to ignore the council of Europe. |
Author: | MaliA [ Thu Apr 20, 2017 13:21 ] |
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Cras wrote: MaliA wrote: Bobbyaro wrote: MaliA wrote: MrChris wrote: It's never been a country, and never will be a country. Just like Wales. That's because of oppression, innit? No. Yes http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/03 ... g-britain/ Cornwall voted to ignore the council of Europe. Fifth columnists |
Author: | Cras [ Thu Apr 20, 2017 13:53 ] |
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I don't think the voting majority can exactly be fifth columnists, that's not really how that works |
Author: | Squirt [ Thu Apr 20, 2017 13:55 ] |
Post subject: | Re: Taking the Brexit |
Saboteurs, Game Players, Spoilers and Counter-Revolutionaries! |
Author: | Dr Zoidberg [ Thu Apr 20, 2017 17:29 ] |
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Lonewolves wrote: Kern wrote: Continuing our on-going series of the benefits of Brexit, we turn to Westminster Hall where MPs were yesterday debating another vital gain of becoming a free and independent nation again: the choice of flag on a car's numberplate. Fucking hell. Who gives a shit I saw people genuinely putting forward "going back to a blue passport" as a real reason to vote for Brexit. |
Author: | MrChris [ Thu Apr 20, 2017 18:22 ] |
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There was a "why are you voting this way" field on the ballot paper??! I missed that. |
Author: | MaliA [ Thu Apr 27, 2017 11:05 ] |
Post subject: | Re: Taking the Brexit |
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... fits-of-eu Going splendidly. Control. |
Author: | Kern [ Wed May 03, 2017 8:20 ] |
Post subject: | Re: Taking the Brexit |
I just passed a number of people waving EU flags from the footbridge over Botley Road just now. Is there a national day of action going on, or just pre-election jitters? In other news, I expect the bill to be reduced down to the original €60 billion (about £1 zillion at the current rate) plus ongoing subscriptions and to be hailed as a diplomatic triumph by the Tories. |
Author: | Zardoz [ Wed May 03, 2017 9:19 ] |
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Author: | Kern [ Wed May 03, 2017 9:21 ] |
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Ah, of course! We're going to be even more unpopular on May 13th than normal, aren't we? |
Author: | DavPaz [ Wed May 03, 2017 9:57 ] |
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Brexit, plus Klitschko losing to a Brit means I'll be surprised if we get a single point |
Author: | Cras [ Wed May 03, 2017 10:02 ] |
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Nobody watches for the British entry anyway. It's always boring as hell. |
Author: | markg [ Wed May 03, 2017 10:04 ] |
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DavPaz wrote: Brexit, plus Klitschko losing to a Brit means I'll be surprised if we get a single point I'm not so sure. There's a pretty strong contingent of idiots across Europe who all think Brexit is great, something they'd like to do as well. |
Author: | Grim... [ Wed May 03, 2017 10:09 ] |
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Cras wrote: Nobody watches for the British entry anyway. It's always boring as hell. Electro Velvet had FLASHING CLOTHES fool |
Author: | DavPaz [ Wed May 03, 2017 11:18 ] |
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Never bettered |
Author: | Zardoz [ Wed May 03, 2017 11:35 ] |
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I was robbed! |
Author: | Kern [ Wed May 03, 2017 14:01 ] |
Post subject: | Re: Taking the Brexit |
I've not watched the clip but this exchange I've read on This is Oxfordshire between Mr Farron and an angry voter kind of sums up the state of the country at the moment: Quote: Mr Baker said: "Do not tell people who voted leave that they didn't know what they were voting for."
In response, Mr Farron questioned the disgruntled voter about whether he was proud his grandchildren 'would inherit a poorer, less powerful, less secure country'. "I'm proud that they will be coming out of Europe and that we will have our own destiny and not have people telling us we are going to pay £100 billion to get out," Mr Baker said. |
Author: | JBR [ Wed May 03, 2017 14:13 ] |
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The refusal to engage in debate really is a constant for leave voters, isn't it?! |
Author: | Kern [ Wed May 03, 2017 14:20 ] |
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Yeah, we didn't hear a word from Eurosceptics after they lost in '76. Now it's our turn to keep schtum. If you're railing against the 'Establishment' by voting leave, you're going to be angry at any perceived attempt by said 'Establishment' to take away your victory. Me? I'm happy to concede if, in 10 or 20 years, life is better as a result of all this that I voted the wrong way. At present, nothing convinces me this isn't the biggest political disaster since Iraq or the Poll Tax. It may even reach the giddy heights of the Suez fiasco. |
Author: | MrChris [ Wed May 03, 2017 14:29 ] |
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Was Iraq really that big a political disaster? |
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